I didn't dismiss using school or tutors. I said myself that the slave refuses to go to school and spent half of that post talking about tutors. When I used the word "problem" it was mainly in the sense of it being an obstacle. Slaves losing no energy from refusing is a "problem" (obstacle needing a solution) because then you need to find a different way of draining energy or else you're stuck there.
Does the slave refuse to go to school for every class, or only certain ones? If the slave doesn't yet want to learn what you want them to learn, you may be able to train them in something else, which still contributes to their overall rating and allows you to develop their obedience.
Punishing the slave spends energy too, unless it is a verbal punishment. You aren't obliged to spend their energy if you can't find anything useful to do with it, but colosseum spars are another offer they can't refuse.
Almost every successful interaction you have with a slave raises their obedience by a small amount.
I have not seen this in my play-testing. If you can reproduce this problem with the
I have tested it on 2.2 dev based on 4 day ago update on gitgud. Its my second play through with 2.2, also experienced with more than 1 slave. They are on restricted or moderate portion and after buggy event changing the portion creates only has minuscule difference. (Regardless of Diet type fresh, dehydrated etc)
Are you implying that a master with 0 stats can get a slave to go to school? Even if that were true, would you want me to click on every single skill in the school menu and hope that the slave will like one?
Obviously I'm only going with verbal punishments if we're doing this challenge.
And you might just survive the several decades necessary to see this make a difference.
I'll do that if I'm still stuck. I still haven't had an opportunity to play again after making that post.
Yes, a master with 0 skills can escort a slave to school. The same way he can escort her to the butcher or to the Colloseum (the alternative would be to make her refuse getting out of the house as if it was an exhibitionism lesson... Which I considered for when you make the slave go out naked... But gameplay wise it will be bogus). A master with 0 skill is however less likely to get a slave to be obedient, and thus she might turn a deaf ear to her school lessons.
Kinda like Demon's Souls remake had people work together to find out what was hidden behind the secret door.Not on the first day, but after building up obedience you can get them to go to school. And no, I don't expect you to click all of the skills in the school menu one by one to see if the slave will like one, but if you can count the thorns in the slave's aura on auspex, they may be willing to do something from that list. You can try first the skills you want to train, and if those are rejected, deal with the refusals (i.e. punish them, unless you're intentionally letting the slave go unpunished for a small mood boost the next day in exchange for losing some obedience - which is a viable strategy mentioned in the tutorial). Then, if you still have spare energy and the slave is in an acceptable mood, you can try something else. Over time, you can cycle through attempting various lessons, giving preference to ones that you think might be more easily accepted than others. If you find that the slave accepts something while refusing something else that your intuition leads you to expect them to accept more easily, please let us know. And as a general rule, unless you're OK with the slave being depressed, prioritize their mood.
As a low-skill master, verbal punishments start out barely effective and quickly become counter-productive, because the slave doesn't take you seriously. If you are all talk and no action, would you expect anything different?
Actually, the slave can refuse school classes currently, but we could make it work as you described here. The master's skills are of course mostly irrelevant (other than their effect on the slave's obedience development) if he's not the one doing the teaching.
Maybe she should not be able to refuse. As she's not able to refuse being escorted to the garden or the beach before knowing what it is, there's no reason for her to refuse going to school (the master doesn't even have to ask her, he'll just say "follow me" and the teacher can answer slaves to be chained to their school desk).
School classes no longer can be refused. A one-line change.
If the master walks out the door with a naked slave, we could automatically trigger a "naked walk" shame punishment. But for this it would be a good idea to have a way to specify whether or not the slave is coming along with the master on his outing.
Yes, it's a possibility. We could bring up a prompt "do you really want to make her accompany you while she's naked?".
Lol, can't have you repping other peoples brand without the appropriate compensation.You have to go home in order to grab your scissors and remove the price tags
From my last playthrough, a couple of decades, maybe three (depending on the intensity).
