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ImperatorAugustusTertius

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Buddawg Responding to your recent review:

This is probably as some say one of the better trainer games. But with a lot less story or depth, grafics and toppped with grueling management.
Less than what? Which game are you comparing to? What specifically about that game do you think is superior to this one?

You need to be ok with having to click 1-2 new step and 3 repeat dialogs away, EVERY single time you make a decission... EVERY SINGLE TIME.
A UI design overhaul to reduce clicks is in the works. You might not be aware (it’s mentioned on the Controls info page linked from the main menu) that you can use the space bar to advance most of the result screens. That can save some clicking.

You dont get visual effect changes
Not sure what you mean by this. The slave’s avatar never changes but the icons around the portrait summarize a lot of info, and you get even more info on the slave’s stats screen.

, so if you wanna learn on your own... the learning curve is very steep (effects of what you do, can take a week to show a minor increase and in temperament cases, a LOT longer than that.)
This depends greatly on the relevant stats for whatever interaction or rule is in play. An unskilled master isn’t very good at teaching, for example. Stats are, by design, slower to raise than skills. Especially “personality” stats like Nature and Temperament. But it’s still quite possible to raise a slave from F- to S+ in any stat if you are patient and avoid shouting yourself in the foot by doing things that drain the stat at the same time you are trying to raise it. The help text when you click on each of the stats gives some pointers on what to do or not do.

Many mechanics are just grueling, keeping them from going insane, just long enough for u to sell them, requires around 60-100+ clicks PR DAY, the excact same clicks as the day before... so redundant.
Which mechanics are grueling?

Maintaining sanity just requires keeping the sum of Nature, Pride and Temperament above 2. F- is zero, D- is one, C- is two. Despair does not lower pride, only the other two, so if you are dealing with high despair, maybe wait on trying to reduce their pride... Alternatively, you can build up her stats if they fell too low and recover her sanity that way - it’s not permanent.

Repeating the exact same actions every day is by design a suboptimal strategy. 60-100 clicks per day is a total exaggeration; assuming the slave has 5 energy, you can spend it all with 10 clicks - less, if you use some of the fast action buttons on the main screen. Not to mention automation through the slave’s assigned rules.

Ah yes, and dont think you can spend time on your slaves to build good ones, thats not really doable or worth it here.
Of course it’s doable and worth it. The higher the rank of the slave and the more specializations they have mastered, the more the value. Moreover, to complete the game’s primary quest you are required to train better and better slaves.

If you prefer all that micromanagement over everything else, this is def the game for you, if not, play any of the other trainer games. Youll get trainers with better story, trainers with better grafics, and trainers that arent using mechanics grind to prolong the game unncessarily. Youll most likely get a lot more sex options with a lot better dialog , than this. And often youll even get grafics for the specific girl youre training, rather than here, where you get milf sucking dick picture, when training a loli. For sure, you wont get as many optionals for selling your slaves in other games... but that is not really what i seek in a trainer game.
Its really not that great a game... for me. Spent some 4-5 hours on it, then went and read guides for hours, because the logic approach wasnt working. Then spend another 6-8 hours trying differently following guides that pretty much assumed you cheated (and so i did), to very little different effect from first go.
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In case someone says read everything then you learn the game, be prepared for days of research... and I mean actual days of actual research, not just a random read. Everything conflicts with former statements. And the above rating is a direct comment at mine, where he says youre doomed to fail if you do the same repeatedly. I didnt say i did that, I stated the game itself is one big repetative loop, of clicking away information boxes that says exactly the same as the last time you clicked it. A huge increase in workload to get any results. So much so, that if you play this game for a longer period of time, youll get a sore clicker finger. And its not at all needed. When I say you will do 100 clicks, it means 100 clicks to do very little. 5 6 things or so. Menus are crap and every option you do have several unchanging information boxes to click every single time you do them, regardless of if you do it right or wrong. This is a game where you spend more time clicking away infoboxes than you do actually paying attention to the game itself. Mostly because you already knows what the infobox tells you after having read the first word, since its repeated oh so many times. And that alone drags this game down A LOT.
Newer trainer games manages this a lot better. As said, time ran away from this game, it probably was good, and it has a hardcore following, but if you didnt play back then, dont bother. Itss a mess conpared to others. Calling it hard to deflect from its poor management system, is kind of redundant, because its hard because its badly made. Even modded. Just pay attention to the key words ppl use about this game. Diligent reading, hardcore, steep learning curve, veterans... those are all bad words for a game, and worse yet for a porn game.

tldr:
If you didnt play this back then, youll most likely not gonna be fond of it now. It doesnt meassure up any longer.
I’m not going to bother refuting this point by point. It’s obvious that you are not commenting on the 2.2 version, since a lot of what you complain about has changed in that version.
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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Can not get Felicity pregnant, any advice? Is it possible to cheat or alter a certain file?
Have you had sex with her every single day for 70 days straight? You have one chance per ovulation cycle, and you don’t know exactly when that is, though you can guess roughly given when she last menstruated.
 

Halleck

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Congrats on the 2.2 release, excellent work guys, but I found some bugs while I'm playing.
1. Fifth value of the Allure in the list is "Memorable", but it appears as "Charismatic" in the Slavers characteristics.
2. A few times in a row when I'm contracting D- rank contract and slave beauty attribute is "Cute", after accepting the contract when I'm checking the slave attributes the beauty attribute is "Ugly"(also from "Beautiful" changes to "Cute", sometimes from "Cute" to "Plain" or from "Pretty" to "Ugly" and so on).
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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Congrats on the 2.2 release, excellent work guys, but I found some bugs while I'm playing.
1. Fifth value of the Allure in the list is "Memorable", but it appears as "Charismatic" in the Slavers characteristics.
2. A few times in a row when I'm contracting D- rank contract and slave beauty attribute is "Cute", after accepting the contract when I'm checking the slave attributes the beauty attribute is "Ugly"(also from "Beautiful" changes to "Cute", sometimes from "Cute" to "Plain" or from "Pretty" to "Ugly" and so on).
1. Which list?

2. You’re seeing their natural beauty before you accept the contract, and their current beauty after. On the anatomy tab of the slave stats screen it shows that beauty is the sum of natural beauty and any penalties from bruises and scars.
 

4mmoK

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Have you had sex with her every single day for 70 days straight? You have one chance per ovulation cycle, and you don’t know exactly when that is, though you can guess roughly given when she last menstruated.
Does it have to be the active sex option or does any training session count?
 

Halleck

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1. Which list?

2. You’re seeing their natural beauty before you accept the contract, and their current beauty after. On the anatomy tab of the slave stats screen it shows that beauty is the sum of natural beauty and any penalties from bruises and scars.
1. Allure list(in a new window), it appears when clicking on Allure characteristic of the Slaver.
2. Some of the slaves has no bruises or scars(no traits at all), but beauty value is reduced(not always).
 
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Storm4n

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So my slave is chubby and I've set her to normal rations but kept her exercising so each day she's at least at -200 calories but I don't see any progress the counter is stuck at +160/-40.

IIRC once it hit -100 it would decrease weight one category?
 

ImperatorAugustusTertius

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So my slave is chubby and I've set her to normal rations but kept her exercising so each day she's at least at -200 calories but I don't see any progress the counter is stuck at +160/-40.

IIRC once it hit -100 it would decrease weight one category?
Depends on her metabolism. -500 will always lose weight.
 
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What affects the chance of a slave to fight? I have A+ Dominance, but she still fights me. Do I need better Fighting skill, too?
 

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So my slave is chubby and I've set her to normal rations but kept her exercising so each day she's at least at -200 calories but I don't see any progress the counter is stuck at +160/-40.

IIRC once it hit -100 it would decrease weight one category?
I think you may be confusing calories with physique. The calories amount at the end of each day can affect physique but physique is not counted in calories. If you end a day with -500 calories on the counter, physique will go down by some amount, and if that continues for enough days to reach that -40 threshold (or whatever the threshold is), the physique level itself will drop.
 
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ImperatorAugustusTertius

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What affects the chance of a slave to fight? I have A+ Dominance, but she still fights me. Do I need better Fighting skill, too?
The severity of what you’re trying to do to her, her psychological status, her fighting ability, her nature/willpower, the relative strength of the master’s aura vs. the slave’s (can be seen with auspex), whether she is spoiled or devoted or under the effects of Domini Dictum.
 

relhed

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Did something change with the Fog Fiend progression? Seems to be staying "rear gripper" forever. I have tried extensive milking with Isabella as well as with a slave.

Thanks in advance and sorry if it is already answered here. I looked on the post and read update notes...
 

Storm4n

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Quick question, when reading the wiki is this considered a continuation of the HF mod work or the vanilla work? because there are items and stuff described differently.

Like in .
 

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Quick question, when reading the wiki is this considered a continuation of the HF mod work or the vanilla work? because there are items and stuff described differently.

Like in .
As far as I know its built on 1.7.5 (HF version) and 1.8 (some dude who built his on 1.7.5 version). So it's a continuation of HF version.
 
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