VN Ren'Py Jessica O'Neil's Hard News [v0.65] [stoperArt]

[Tulrek]

That wasnt civil? Do people take offence at such minor things nowdays? What should i call your assumptions then, Clever and Intelligent when i proved them to be the contrary.
Out of all the points i said there you took one thing out and say i cant stand constructive criticism.

Your counter argument was sound and interesting until the last world and that's a shame.
cold_arctus brought some thoughts and you answer them prefectly with your sounds arguments that you spoiled totaly with your last worlds.
"so your assumption about him is pretty damn stupid."
There is no "constructive criticism" in insulting people. You cannot argue that.
That's too bad.

But now please, please stop it.
I've edited my post and deleted my sentence about my comparison.
So I regret if I have offend you, that wasn't my point.
To be honest I'm actualy playing BeigADik and enjoy it a lot.

Have a nice evening and let's go back to the topic we all love: JOHN !

 

[mma456]

Your counter argument was sound and interesting until the last world and that's a shame.
cold_arctus brought some thoughts and you answer them prefectly with your sounds arguments that you spoiled totaly with your last worlds.
"so your assumption about him is pretty damn stupid."
There is no "constructive criticism" in insulting people. You cannot argue that.
That's too bad.

But now please, please stop it.
I've edited my post and deleted my sentence about my comparison.
So I regret if I have offend you, that wasn't my point.
To be honest I'm actualy playing BeigADik and enjoy it a lot.

Have a nice evening and let's go back to the topic we all love: JOHN !

Insulting people? Where? I said his assumption was stupid, didnt call him stupid did i?

 

[Tulrek]

Insulting people? Where? I said his assumption was stupid, didnt call him stupid did i?

It could be taken as such...
But anyway, let's move on would we ?
No point to argue farther on this.

 

[mma456]

It could be taken as such...
But anyway, let's move on would we ?
No point to argue farther on this.

No point to argue indeed, but just so you understand that the real insult here is some oversmart dude making assumptions about someone they dont know anything about and calling their work play doh. Don't know why i wanted to defend badik so much either but thats that couldnt care less.

 

[sins31]

You're right. It's not Jessica. It's a completely different character, who has nothing whatsoever to do with the Jessica O'Neil story. It even says this in the post you quoted.

How is it possible that you quoted their post, but didn't read what they wrote?

Ohh Dude I'm sorry my english level is not good because of that I didn't understand but I have read and understood your explanation, thank you.

 

[Deleted member 2919053]

What is the name of this movie again?

How the movie is called I do not know.

 

[Journey95]

Compare to JOHN, the short answer is: Yes.

Reason: The time DPC spends on setting up a render (light, character display, etc) and postworking a single render takes less time than it takes for Stoper.

Why? First of all DPC aims for quantity while Stoper aims for quality per update. Result: Each update of BaDIK has 3,000+ renders while JOHN barely has 400 renders.

Compare DPC's and Stoper's renders and you will see that many of DPC's renders are close-up shots (face) while Stoper use full-body renders.

The lightning in DPC's renders isn't the best either - even I as an amateur see it. Often his renders are oversaturated and too bright which has a bad impact on characters skin texture and makes them look like play-doh.

Rendering a group of people in a single environment isn't really a problem. Either you have a powerful GPU with a lot of VRAM (example RTX 3090) or you split the render into two or more separate images and then combine them via photoshop (you also can use the "cardboard" trick).

Conclusion:
Without doubt DPC is a hell of a working machine and produce nice looking renders and animations in a relative short amount of time in large quantities. But as shown above it is only possible by lowering the quality and using close-up shots. The right hardware with enough render power and VRAM allows to render bigger scene and/or to increase the amount of render due to fast rendering process.

However, if it comes to "simplicity" based on render quality then you can say DPC's renders are "simple".

I would take simpler renders over this game's type because at least we get lots of content regulary. DPC's renders are more than enough imho. At least this isn't badly paced like AWAM but the updates just take so long and don't deliver enough content.

 

[cold_arctus]

I would take simpler renders over this game's type because at least we get lots of content regulary. DPC's renders are more than enough if you ask me

I totally agree with you on that. DPC found the perfect mix of quality and quantity for his game. However, it will always be down to the creators taste/skills and decision to produce renders as how he/she/it like them.

Stoper decided to go with "higher" quality (based on lightning, position, filters etc.), because it suits his personal taste. Now he has to stick to it as long as he doesn't start another side-project.

 

[Twelvemonkey]

I totally agree with you on that. DPC found the perfect mix of quality and quantity for his game. However, it will always be down to the creators taste/skills and decision to produce renders as how he/she/it like them.

Stoper decided to go with "higher" quality (based on lightning, position, filters etc.), because it suits his personal taste. Now he has to stick to it as long as he doesn't start another side-project.

yeah, i think most people prefer contents than qualities as long as they can deliver the updates on time. I love StoperArt's render quality than most any VN out here but the lacks of contents and how slow it took to produced one single update is killing me.

 

[cold_arctus]

yeah, i think most people prefer contents than qualities as long as they can deliver the updates on time. I love StoperArt's render quality than most any VN out here but the lacks of contents and how slow it took to produced one single update is killing me.

Yep. Best to ignore most games for 1,5 years until they have enough content to be worth to be played. So far I haven't played JOHN since v0.30-something.

Have you played "Come Inside" by ttll? Great renders but last update was released in summer 2020!

 

[Twelvemonkey]

Yep. Best to ignore most games for 1,5 years until they have enough content to be worth to be played. So far I haven't played JOHN since v0.30-something.

Have you played "Come Inside" by ttll? Great renders but last update was released in summer 2020!

yea i played that one, gorgeous render, too bad they didn't update them since forever.

 

[Catherine1972]

Am I too idealistic ? Too recent in the world of NVs ? Too naive ?
But yes the content is more important than anything. The renderings, the characters justify each scene (of the story and / or of sex). Stopping is excellent at it. He brought together the know-how, the know-how to tell, the eroticism and the porn. It might be personal but that's all I love.

 

[umby]

Am I too idealistic ? Too recent in the world of NVs ? Too naive ?
But yes the content is more important than anything. The renderings, the characters justify each scene (of the story and / or of sex). Stopping is excellent at it. He brought together the know-how, the know-how to tell, the eroticism and the porn. It might be personal but that's all I love.

you are right but he repeated too many scenes over and over.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Yeah imagine ignoring the game AWAM for the last 4 yrs)) to come now and.................

loooooool

 

[mma456]

Yep. Best to ignore most games for 1,5 years until they have enough content to be worth to be played. So far I haven't played JOHN since v0.30-something.

Have you played "Come Inside" by ttll? Great renders but last update was released in summer 2020!

Ignoring is the best way to go about when it comes to games which are good but don't update too often. Also since you haven't played one or 2 updates of Jessica don't you get spoiled when you visit the forum and loose a bit of excitement? Part of John's charm is not knowing anything about the events since stopper doesn't post about them and then getting total fulfilment when you directly play them when the update drops.

 

[Catherine1972]

you are right but he repeated too many scenes over and over.

Repetitive scenes? It all depends on how you look at the game. Personally, I won't say that. But do you have an example of repeated scenes? Just to get your point of view.

 

[Aidan]

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PAOLA CHAPTER II - Unfaithful by Revenge
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Summary of the series: Paola lives an idyllic life. She is married to Juan Carlos, a snobby, successful lawyer, future partner in the most prestigious law firm in the country. She knows her husband is a jealous man and during a casual conversation she asks him what he would do if she ever cheated on him, he responds by telling her that he would cheat back to her ten times in revenge. When Paola finds out that Juan Carlos is cheating on her, she decides to get revenge the same way he would. But she won’t do it just with anybody, the lucky ones will be those men that her husband hates. Watch out! Paola is out to war!

Summary of the chapter: Paola lives in the sorrow of knowing that she is a betrayed woman. However, she finds the strength to win back her dignity by gathering strength from the intense hate she feels for Juan Carlos, the man who betrayed her love and her marriage. The troubled woman will set a plan in motion that will lead her to get to know herself and discover that she has a big world of pleasures to discover as a woman. But every game is hard. In this chapter the sizzling and determinate Paola will start putting together her strategy, choosing the first lucky ones that will get to possess the woman of Juan Carlos Mecci.

This this book or comix?

 

[cxx]

This this book or comix?

tried paola (game) but no big diff. to comic so deleted it.

 

[umby]

Repetitive scenes? It all depends on how you look at the game. Personally, I won't say that. But do you have an example of repeated scenes? Just to get your point of view.

we talk about the countless scenes with conner where only one was enough. the others could also be done with other or new characters.

 

[Catherine1972]

we talk about the countless scenes with conner where only one was enough. the others could also be done with other or new characters.

Okay if we avoid sex scenes with Conner.
But can we do without the scenes where Jessica catches him doing some research on the computer, or tries to find out what he's doing and where he is? These are not long scenes but necessary for us to ask the question: Could Conner be the vigilante? Of course, if someone isn't interested in that part, then a lot of the scenes become unnecessary.