this game has the best writing i have read so far 
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The update cycle is determined by the game's story and usually spans 1 ingame day. It's also determined by the tiny budget: currently $2350/month and less than $1000/month for most of the project's lifespan. It has nothing to do with "project management", "milking" or whatever fashionable buzzword you want to throw at it.
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While I would like to see a JOHN update as much as anyone else, this bonus set was really hot. I'd very much like to see it in 4K. Stoper is top-tier.
- Jun 22, 2017
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The only problem is the time betwen updates, but the game is in my top 3 , history, renders, animations, are just amazing
- Mar 25, 2018
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Stoper is such a milker, almost came in my pants watching the bonus set. I am glad he doesn't shy away from penises.
He doesn't like to repeat things so we won't find a similar scene in JOHN though, I guess, which is a shame.
He doesn't like to repeat things so we won't find a similar scene in JOHN though, I guess, which is a shame.
- Aug 23, 2020
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I can't speak for Italy, but in the United States $2,700 before taxes is $32,400/year. That is the definition of barely getting by, and would qualify him for financial support in almost every state in the US. So while maybe BorgiaBou may have been wrong about Italy specifically, you're incorrect to act as though $2,700/year is good money everywhere.
Edit- To keep this on topic though, I would just reiterate that I think Stoper is leaving a lot of money on the table because of his development cycles. Clearly this is a passion project for him, and that's cool; but objectively I think there are thousands of dollars out there that he could earn if he was able to buckle down and put out consistent releases. Not everyone is driven by money, and Stoper is clearly not a greedy person, I'm just stating what I think is a fact- he could be financially much more successful with this project than he currently is.
- Jul 24, 2021
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The heck has to do this with the usa i swear you american folks are so ignorant sometimes no wonder why the rest of the world "loves" your country so much, i clearly specify that he lives in Italy that's in Europe like i said he can have a decent living not a luxury living with that money in Italy in eastern Europe where i'm from with that you'd be rich and have a good life...
Dude i have close friends who are working in Italy for 1800-2000€ and they get by just fine, they even manage to send back home to their loved ones some money monthly...
- Jul 3, 2021
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Do you see what I'm trying to say here? If you just want to "get by", that's fine.
Oh, and one more thing. I personally love the USA. Been there twice and it's a great country. And unlike what you say, not every country and it's citizens hate on the US. That's pretty dumb anyway if you ask me.
- Apr 25, 2020
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And why are you saying that? Stoper seems to be satisfied to "get by" with what he has now
- Jul 3, 2021
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Did you even read the previous posts? I'm not talking about Stoper, but about what BorgiaBou had to say about money. If Stoper or anyone is fine with just getting by, that's fine with me.
As a person who lived in Italy for a few months, and currently living in the US, I would say that 2300 euro in Italy in is like 5000 dollars in USA. Why? Because of the fucking rent. I pay 2500 for a slightly larger studio rn. In Italy this would cost me 650 to 700. And the doctors dont cost a fortune.
Though I think dev is making less than the amount shown. Patreon takes a cut and also the taxes. I would say the taxes alone is costing him 350 euros. But I think there are ways to get that lowered. So, even though he makes a "decent" wage, I don't think he is making bank. Though I think of he focused morehere, he would definitely grow faster.
- Apr 12, 2020
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- Jul 17, 2019
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the fact is, most users think that increasing the gain increases the speed of development.
this is not true.
if not minimally.
sure more money can get you better hardware but we have had a lot of evidence that the delays are due to scene creation, and not hardware dependent.
the only solution would be to work in a team; but it is difficult for a craetore to transfer his ideas to others. we have an example on Summertime Saga: there are many in the team, but only DC designs the scenes; the same goes for L&P.
having said that, the update will certainly not come out, as I assumed, in November; Unfortunately.
this latest bonus set took a long time; I already told you what I think about it.
this is not true.
if not minimally.
sure more money can get you better hardware but we have had a lot of evidence that the delays are due to scene creation, and not hardware dependent.
the only solution would be to work in a team; but it is difficult for a craetore to transfer his ideas to others. we have an example on Summertime Saga: there are many in the team, but only DC designs the scenes; the same goes for L&P.
having said that, the update will certainly not come out, as I assumed, in November; Unfortunately.
this latest bonus set took a long time; I already told you what I think about it.
- Jul 17, 2019
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- Jul 17, 2019
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considering that the last update ended on Saturday before lunch, I expect some little clues for lunch (phone calls or similar to introduce new events) then:
Saturday night Blake event
Sunday morning Rosa event
Sunday evening Heather event
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- Jul 17, 2019
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I guess you are right with the incoming events.
It sounds like "lesbiantopia" and that would be very boring. Of course not for the lesbian lovers.
But in the end I will be happy to get the update this year and will not complain.
- Nov 5, 2019
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Sorry for my English being bad, and I would like to end this discussion of tipc with this clarification:
Yes, statistics may give you a reason, but the reality is quite different, I just make a distinction between salary work as an employee, which is the mass of the Italian people, and self-employment which includes freelancers, and since our country is among the most taxed in the world is also the one with the highest number of evaders and is not like in the U.S. that if you do not pay taxes go to jail and throw away the key
. Surely these raise the average salary average.Don't call people ignorant if you have no clue what taxes, social security and self employment are. 2350 dollar is nowhere near enough to run your own business, unless you live in some former communist country.
I swear this topic turns up every week on this website and it has the same ignoramus arguments every single time.