- Thread starter stoper
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Why am I not surprised or disappointed with the latest news? Maybe it’s because I could already foresee the outcome. Kudos to him for all his art quality but it’s time for me to move on. Game won’t survive for longer if he doesn’t change his attitude. Anyway, thanks for the game. It really was an amazing experience.
- May 18, 2021
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What is happening with developers, there are more and more developers that are delaying updates or giving miserable update with scene or two. This game was one of the best but I think it is over, 6 monts for 1lesbian or faithful scene thats crazy. Stoper needs to decide or to abandon the game or bigger updates with little bit less quality. This is unfair for people that are playing the game.
Yeah I noticed that too. Lately we had a lot of big delays and what "scares" me the most is that there's a propensity to adopt the "icstor's philosophy" of ignoring supporters. This is not good.
- May 28, 2018
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As long as enough people are paying, there's no reason for him to change it.
I feel like these devs look at each other and think, hmmmm, well he's doing it this slow..... I'll go slower.
Remember in the good old days when most devs had monthly updates. that is long gone.
Remember in the good old days when most devs had monthly updates. that is long gone.
- Jun 25, 2017
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Back then devs had the decency to only charge per major update too, now most devs have stopped caring about their patrons.
- Aug 23, 2020
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I think you're seeing a couple things.
- Confirmation bias- you're concerned about a trend so you're more likely to notice it elsewhere.
- Maturation of Patreon economy- Patreon as a portal for funding adult games has been around long enough now that I think we're seeing the maturation of the economic model. And that model is showing many shortcomings. Creators who learned of Patreon three or four years ago and jumped onboard, are now reaching a point of exhaustion. I think there's a collective coincidence where after three or so years developers start getting tired of their projects.
- COVID Burnout- Coupled with the maturation of the Patreon economy, the last two years saw an explosion in attention (and profit) for creators. For example, immediately following the shutdown in March 2020, F95 experienced a dramatic rise in new members. For creators, this opened up a vast new captive audience. This new audience wasn't only captive in their home, they were also deeply engaged. Correspondingly, devs now had fewer distractions and could focus on their games. But now, almost two full years later, I think we're seeing COVID burnout. Audiences are ferociously engaged, and the shine of the games has worn off. Now more is being demanded from the devs at a time when they're burnt out.
This thread was started in July of 2018, so it's more than three and a half years old. Considering that there are still many years of development in front of the game, I think we're seeing a natural burnout from Stoper. Some will call this milking, but I don't see it that way. I think most devs want to finish their games, but they didn't plan ahead very well and are simply too burnt out to carry on. There's a lesson here for future devs, try to keep your games to something that can be completed in 36 months.
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- May 27, 2017
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my thesis is also that perhaps the work on ren py is not for him.
- Jul 17, 2019
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well, over time the plot of the game itself develops and thickens, becoming more and more complex and complicated.
so if the events that happen today are the consequences of past choices, there are many variations to consider.
In the specific case of JOHN, the Blake event also depends on the first choice made with her at the bar (kiss her or intimidate boy) so today's new event will have to have variations based on that choice.
The most striking case is AWAM, it has so many ramifications that a single event must be done in 2-3 variations.
- Sep 25, 2019
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Cheating path is probably the part most people have been waiting for Next question, is it worth the 6 month update? There must be something special in it It should have a hot sex scene which in fact should have been a long time ago Since being with Mr.Parker but she could only blowjob on him 
- Aug 15, 2019
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So I'm going to skip this update after all this wait? Let's see that lighter version worth the wait..
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Very good points. I would also add that when you start a project it's all new and shiny and you're highly motivated. But after a couple years and the branching increasing, a solo dev can feel bored and lose motivation (covid or not covid, though there was an increase in new projects during it)
Is this suzi from hillside vn? xDthere will be another update, don't expect anything special, why did you even decide that he would do something special? what you have been waiting for 6 months means nothing, he will release an update whenever he wants, because his audience does not care, they will still support the game, and what people write on a pirate site does not matter to him.
image getting the game for free in compaing about it I could see if the guy was a a dev that was just taking money but there not plus covid fucked up alot of shit and you want them to just pump out upadates when he is the only fucking one make it get fucking real
Yes everything is covid's fault. I wouldn't be complaining if the dev would STOP advertising when they were going to release the next update OVER AND OVER AGAIN only for it not to happen each time. You can make all the excuses you want and support him all you want but people have legit issues with the way this is being done paying or not and if the dev would just shut up and not give out release dates that end up not happening / stringing people along / jerking people around to possibly try to keep interest high to keep getting money from his Patreons then I don't think people would be as angry.
- Aug 23, 2020
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The solution isn't to stop giving release dates, the solution is to hold himself to his release date. He'll happily stop giving release dates on the future, and development will continue to get longer. The day he stops giving release information is the day the game drags out forever. He needs to learn how to give an accurate release date and to stick to it.