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Kxca

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I got two messages in the last week or so asking for a non-Patreon option to support, so I have updated my Itch page. (I'm surprised it's selling well on there after I put a price!) I wish I knew how to do Steam, but no clue at all.

Thank you Tess for updating the Itch.io page, already bought the game. Always wanted to support KG but with Patreon not working currently in my country, never had the option before. If it ever comes on Steam, I will possibly buy there as well to keep all my games in one place.
 
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Jetse

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First of all, thanks, many, many thanks for this incredible game TessSadist.
It's one the most complex and ull of meaningfull options games i have played (at the "Shattered" game level maybe).
Let me say "I came for the sex and stayed for the sex" (errr sorry I mean for the story....and for the sex too).

This story keeps me thinking a lot of time about who is who, who wants what, etc...

After my maybe 13th playthrough I pay attention to something I think it'ss not commented enough.
My first impressions about the most evil sisters was : Jul > Ale > Ver > Dom
Buuuuut in the test you do in the jail:
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the most evil answers seems to be D > C > B > A and in the next question :

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Seems to be : C > A > B > D

Attending at the points with whom sister you win after each answer seems the evil order might be : Jul > Ver > Ale > Dom.

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First of all, thanks, many, many thanks for this incredible game TessSadist.
It's one the most complex and ull of meaningfull options games i have played (at the "Shattered" game level maybe).
Let me say "I came for the sex and stayed for the sex" (errr sorry I mean for the story....and for the sex too).

This story keeps me thinking a lot of time about who is who, who wants what, etc...

After my maybe 13th playthrough I pay attention to something I think it'ss not commented enough.
My first impressions about the most evil sisters was : Jul > Ale > Ver > Dom
Buuuuut in the test you do in the jail:
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the most evil answers seems to be D > C > B > A and in the next question :

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Seems to be : C > A > B > D

Attending at the points with whom sister you win after each answer seems the evil order might be : Jul > Ver > Ale > Dom.

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Seems to be : C > A > B > D

Attending at the points with whom sister you win after each answer seems the evil order might be : Jul > Ver > Ale > Dom.
From my perspective, yes you are correct. Although I think Veronica and Alessandra are almost equal - one is more ruthless while the other is just amoral. There are hints that Dominique is not as nice as she makes out - for example her alliance with Juliette.
 

Kxca

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Alessandra seems to be closer to Veronica than she is to the other two. Her goals for the Gambit are also quite unclear; she seems content with sitting back and letting Juliette and Dominique fight it out for the top spot. For Veronica that makes sense- she is the neutral arbiter and is satisfied with her science division. But Alessandra is also trying to get Olivia on her side...maybe she wants to make Olivia the puppet winner while she controls the strings?
There are hints that Dominique is not as nice as she makes out - for example her alliance with Juliette.
Agreed. Dominique's behavior during her meeting with Kane in episode 5 is quite sus, and the question she asks also hints at some not-so-moral ulterior motives.
 

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Alessandra seems to be closer to Veronica than she is to the other two. Her goals for the Gambit are also quite unclear; she seems content with sitting back and letting Juliette and Dominique fight it out for the top spot. For Veronica that makes sense- she is the neutral arbiter and is satisfied with her science division. But Alessandra is also trying to get Olivia on her side...maybe she wants to make Olivia the puppet winner while she controls the strings?

Agreed. Dominique's behavior during her meeting with Kane in episode 5 is quite sus, and the question she asks also hints at some not-so-moral ulterior motives.
I agree with both of you, the game expose two polar sides, Juliette and Dominique, and then two characters in the grey zone, Alessandra ans Veronica.
Saying Dominique is the less evil sister not means she is an angel, obviously any sister is more or less evil.
It seems in the Board there are (was?) 3 groups:
1- Veronica and Yvette
2- Dominique and Alessandra
3- Juliette and Elena (the sadists)

But with the appearance of Olivia and Kane some of them are moving from one group to another....
 

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I haven't played KG for a while, but judging by the morality discussions going on concerning the main characters, I certainly should. Boy is it interesting to probe deeper into the minds of the dominant women in the story, rather than only into those of the submissive men!
 

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dominique might be the most moral of the sisters, but even she admits to not being good. She's the most pragmatic and ambitious, to get what she wants she'll cross alot of grey lines. Corrupting her should be fun if tess allows such a thing to happen
 
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dominique might be the most moral of the sisters, but even she admits to not being good. She's the most pragmatic and ambitious, to get what she wants she'll cross alot of grey lines. Corrupting her should be fun if tess allows such a thing to happen
I think it's too late to corrupt them, they are already grown and formed corrupted. Hopefully in future updates we will learn more about what went on in their childhood and adolescence, apart from general phrases about what they went through. Going back to depravity/corruption.. I suppose we can only try to incline some of the daughters to the 'lighter side of the force' if Tess gives us the opportunity. But obviously there would have to be more serious prerequisites for such a move to the lighter side of the force, there would have to be a lot more Kane interaction with them for him to one day be able to influence them properly.

As for the moral qualities of Alexander's daughters, given that they are all corrupt and steeped in vice, in my opinion the highest moral among these "wolves in sheep's clothing" is Veronica. A high level of intelligence, minimal dependence on sex (her love of sex/kinks is not a weakness), some of the detachment from the world that is common to many scientists and a slight tinge of modesty - all this cannot fail to attract. Certainly I wouldn't mind the possibility of having an affair with each of the daughters, but I've always been attracted to intelligent women and so my preference for the main playthrough of the game is Veronica. (I play the dominant route- Kane 100% Good Dom + Olivia good dom ~50%/sub ~50%)
 
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I think it's too late to corrupt them, they are already grown and formed corrupted. Hopefully in future updates we will learn more about what went on in their childhood and adolescence, apart from general phrases about what they went through. Going back to depravity/corruption.. I suppose we can only try to incline some of the daughters to the 'lighter side of the force' if Tess gives us the opportunity. But obviously there would have to be more serious prerequisites for such a move to the lighter side of the force, there would have to be a lot more Kane interaction with them for him to one day be able to influence them properly.

As for the moral qualities of Alexander's daughters, given that they are all corrupt and steeped in vice, in my opinion the highest moral among these "wolves in sheep's clothing" is Veronica. A high level of intelligence, minimal dependence on sex (her love of sex/kinks is not a weakness), some of the detachment from the world that is common to many scientists and a slight tinge of modesty - all this cannot fail to attract. Certainly I wouldn't mind the possibility of having an affair with each of the daughters, but I've always been attracted to intelligent women and so my preference for the main playthrough of the game is Veronica. (I play the dominant route- Kane 100% Good Dom + Olivia good dom ~50%/sub ~50%)
Only one I truly see as corrupted is juliette, she's who she is at this point, if you want to get with her you'd have to either be really evil or agree to be her slave. Alessandra and Veronica are different shades of grey. They're not totally evil but they're not particularly good either. Veronica will experiment on a bitch in a minute for the sake of further knowledge. Alessandra on the other hand is harder to pin down since she's so far been in the story as herself the least. She sexually gets off on suffering but Im not sure yet what her motives are. Dominique, seems to have noble intentions at the moment and while not an angel doesnt seem to be particularly evil or even be one who gets off on other's suffering.

That's my longwinded way of saying that at least three of them are very much corruptible while Juliette is just who she is at this point, she's not going to change for anybody.
 
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I agree with both of you, the game expose two polar sides, Juliette and Dominique, and then two characters in the grey zone, Alessandra ans Veronica.
Saying Dominique is the less evil sister not means she is an angel, obviously any sister is more or less evil.
It seems in the Board there are (was?) 3 groups:
1- Veronica and Yvette
2- Dominique and Alessandra
3- Juliette and Elena (the sadists)

But with the appearance of Olivia and Kane some of them are moving from one group to another....
I think that for Elena there is a choice which path she will go (good or evil)!
This choice depends on Olivia's path and her response!
Elena will always support Olivia!
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Only one I truly see as corrupted is juliette, she's who she is at this point, if you want to get with her you'd have to either be really evil or agree to be her slave. Alessandra and Veronica are different shades of grey. They're not totally evil but they're not particularly good either. Veronica will experiment on a bitch in a minute for the sake of further knowledge. Alessandra on the other hand is harder to pin down since she's so far been in the story as herself the least. She sexually gets off on suffering but Im not sure yet what her motives are. Dominique, seems to have noble intentions at the moment and while not an angel doesnt seem to be particularly evil or even be one who gets off on other's suffering.

That's my longwinded way of saying that at least three of them are very much corruptible while Juliette is just who she is at this point, she's not going to change for anybody.
You are right. But imagine if there was an opportunity to influence some of the daughters, for example the way Olivia can with Elena (under certain conditions). I think it would be interesting to give the players a chance to try and change them. Yes, I know that the author is sticking to her own plan for the future development of the game. And if those plans only spell out the possibility of Olivia influencing Elena, then it's hardly worth waiting for something similar in the MC's relationship with Alexander's daughters.

One could say that the Olivia<-->Elena case is special and there is a deep mother-daughter bond, so such influence is possible, whereas in the case of Kane/Olivia<-->Alexander's daughters there is no such bond and therefore no prerequisite. Fair enough, but the author wrote that in addition to femdom/kinks, she also likes romance in relationships, so a hypothetical love route with either daughter (except perhaps Juliette) could conceivably be a prerequisite for the daughters to change (e.g. near the end of the game). And it could have been one of several endings, or part of one of the endings. (Yes, Gambit first, but still...)
 
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