Innocience

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Can you point me to the exact quote where this is said, plainly and directly? Because the new update both implies (very strongly, so strongly I think most readers would find it conclusive) that A) Kane and Olivia are not blood related, B) both Veronica - who seems to be one of the ones controlling the gambit - and Elena want Olivia to win, and that to win, she must have a child with Kane. Dunno, the game itself seems to contradict you pretty thoroughly.
At least in Olivia Dom Kane Sub routes: Olivia cuckqueen confirmed.
 

AL.d

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Can you point me to the exact quote where this is said, plainly and directly? Because the new update both implies (very strongly, so strongly I think most readers would find it conclusive) that A) Kane and Olivia are not blood related, B) both Veronica - who seems to be one of the ones controlling the gambit - and Elena want Olivia to win, and that to win, she must have a male child with Kane. Dunno, the game itself seems to contradict you pretty thoroughly.

The premise is kind of silly, because a logical thing to do would be to have the 5 (maybe 6?) Karlsson sisters play their gambit and determine a winner, then frame Kane into prison or coerce him some other way so his sperm could be extracted and just use artificial insemination. But this is a fantasy/dystopian/porn game, so of course fucking needs to be involved. By the game's own internal logic, an Olivia/Kane sexual relationship seems very, very possible.
I'm pretty sure there was a scene in the recent update with Olivia admiring (with purely academic and platonic interest ofc) Kane's equipment. I don't know if it will be included but it sure is being teased. And it would be one of the most vanilla things happening in that place...Maybe Tess enjoys the tension and the hinting but won't go beyond that.

And I wouldn't expect any definitive statement saying it would be included either...considering the platform it's on.
 

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is there a way to avoid going for k7 to k6? at the end they said i should stay k7 and the sister demotes? lol wtf
a few pages back someone posted a detailed guide for promotion too k8 i used that to move from k7 too k8 there is 2 different guides posted, only one of them worked for me i play good dom for both siblings and team sis most of the issue i had with increasing in rank was connected too the massage scene
 
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Retromancer

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That's a reasonable theory
I think so too. What I meant: I'm certain if Oliv x Kane won't be a thing, Oliv will have a hand in selecting his partner in certain routes.
That's a reasonable theory even though I don't agree with it. Could be wrong, though.
 
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Olivia and Kane have different mothers, but they still share the same father, so they are blood related. However, he shares the same father with every Karlsson sister, so I don’t know what the direction is.
 

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Olivia and Kane have different mothers, but they still share the same father, so they are blood related. However, he shares the same father with every Karlsson sister, so I don’t know what the direction is.
Yeh, the whole setup and purpose of the gambit as explained in this update seems destined to get the dev in hot water with the paymasters eventually. I guess she'll whip that bridge when she gets to it.
 

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Yeh, the whole setup and purpose of the gambit as explained in this update seems destined to get the dev in hot water with the paymasters eventually. I guess she'll whip that bridge when she gets to it.

It is a fairly easy fix, just use words like housemate, roommate things like that. Then an awesome modder will insert the incest patch
 

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Olivia and Kane have different mothers, but they still share the same father, so they are blood related. However, he shares the same father with every Karlsson sister, so I don’t know what the direction is.
No... MC's isn't Karlsson's son. His father is the guy Callista was speaking to during the flashback scene. The one who helped her get away from the Karlsson Group.
 

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No... MC's isn't Karlsson's son. His father is the guy Callista was speaking to during the flashback scene. The one who helped her get away from the Karlsson Group.
This is exactly correct, further confirmed during the Veronica/Elena/Yvette meeting, where the way to win the gambit is revealed. Veronica says something like Alexander wanted one of his daughters to have a son with Callista's son, not his son...
 
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No... MC's isn't Karlsson's son. His father is the guy Callista was speaking to during the flashback scene. The one who helped her get away from the Karlsson Group.
Right. As I understand things:
  • Veronica, Dominque, Alessandra, Juliette, and Olivia share the same father (Alexander) but each have different mothers
    • Olivia's mother is not Callista; I suspect it is Elena
    • I suspect Veronica's mother is likely Yvette?
  • Kane's mother is Callista, father is very probably the mystery man who helped her escape
  • Seth's mother is probably Callista, father unknown (perhaps the same as Kane?)

There is no blood relationship between Kane and Olivia.
 

gregers

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Can you point me to the exact quote where this is said, plainly and directly?
What the dev's actually said (unless I'm mistaken) is that (a) she's working with a more narrow definition of incest than most and (b) there won't be any biological sister/brother sexual content (and that she has some qualms writing incestuous relationships because of her experiences working with real life incest victims). What that means in connection with the revelations in the most recent chapter is left as an exercise for the reader.

Other than that, she's mentioned that either of Olivia or Kane starting a relationship with a character will likely lock the other protagonist out of a relationship with that same character.
 

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  • Veronica, Dominque, Alessandra, Juliette, and Olivia share the same father (Alexander) but each have different mothers
    • Olivia's mother is not Callista; I suspect it is Elena
    • I suspect Veronica's mother is likely Yvette?
Olivia speaks of Callista as her mother in the conversation with Elena; of course she may be mistaken. There are some hints in the conversation between Veronica, Yvette, and Elena to support your suspicion.

Yes, Veronica explicitly refers to Yvette as "Mother".
 
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Avaron1974

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Can you point me to the exact quote where this is said, plainly and directly? Because the new update both implies (very strongly, so strongly I think most readers would find it conclusive) that A) Kane and Olivia are not blood related, B) both Veronica - who seems to be one of the ones controlling the gambit - and Elena want Olivia to win, and that to win, she must have a male child with Kane. Dunno, the game itself seems to contradict you pretty thoroughly.

The premise is kind of silly, because a logical thing to do would be to have the 5 (maybe 6?) Karlsson sisters play their gambit and determine a winner, then frame Kane into prison or coerce him some other way so his sperm could be extracted and just use artificial insemination. But this is a fantasy/dystopian/porn game, so of course fucking needs to be involved. By the game's own internal logic, an Olivia/Kane sexual relationship seems very, very possible.
Regarding further detail on Olivia paths, I feel kind of locked in with the following -- (spoilers! a bit but not listing which characters, just possible paths) BTW, the idea I almost did instead of KG early was more female oriented with life in a sorority (I lived this life very much so both on my own and my circles even today, etc. and can speak to this in a way a lot can't) that was a little more lesbian dominated than pure male/female. (Maybe some guys do or don't want to hear this??) I would estimate (at least in my circle in college, maybe I knew perverts only haha!) that at least 50-60%+ of women "got curious" about women a bit in college and moved on for the most part.

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There is a breakdown of all LI's by the dev herself.
 

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How much time does it take to go through the new content? The game is over 5 gigs, I'm thinknig maybe it's better to skip the update if it's only a small one.
 
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Yep, Veronica is capable of being ruthlessly extreme even when she knows it isn't necessary, which implies she secretly enjoys exerting her power to make others suffer even though she pretends she doesn't. Elena comments on it in the very same meeting. There have been enough other small examples of Veronica getting off on the suffering of others to confirm Elena's accusation. All of the Karlsson daughters are messed up in one way or another, save maybe
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Even Dominique's uncharacteristic possibly false admission to dom Kane makes me wonder how much of her own remaining ethics she's willing to sacrifice in order to win the Gambit.


Olivia speaks of Callista as her mother in the conversation with Elena; of course she may be mistaken. There are some hints in the conversation between Veronica, Yvette, and Elena to support your suspicision.
Given that Elena didn't even know she had a living daughter until the bombshell was dropped on her, it fits that Olivia wasn't told either. Olivia was probably either an IVF baby produced without Elena's knowledge, or Elena was lied to and told her baby was stillborn when her baby was instead whisked away at birth by Alexander Karlsson and given to Callista to raise. It has been established that Alexander Karlsson in his latter days was a cold-hearted bastard who thought the world of Callista and deeply desired an heir. I can easily see him stealing Elena's child and giving her to Callista to raise thinking Callista would raise a better heir than Elena.

Yes, Veronica explicitly refers to Yvette as "Mother".
Yep, the story has made it clear that Yvette is Veronica's mother. This is one of at least two mentions I can think of.

Callista is Alexander's sister, so Kane and Olivia are blood related. They are cousins.
No. Callista is not Alexander Karlsson's sister. Alexander Karlsson has/had 2 sisters, Klara and Karin. Klara is the sister of Alexander Karlsson that Olivia is said to look a lot like. It's also been made clear that Alexander deeply desired to produce a child with Callista, but it never happened. So the objective of the Gambit is to

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