VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[PGpauljp13]

Juliette is still easily the most evil of the 4, revelling in the wanton murder of loyal servants and their suffering as they die. No doubt about that, but nothing evil Juliette does surprises me any more. Dominique's physical, but most especially her emotional sadism surprised me. At this point I'm not sure which Karlsson sister is the 2nd most evil. Alessandra is ahead of Dominique by my count only because of her great interest in Katsumi's game show where the losers will die. Veronica probably has killed more than Alessandra and Dominique put together, either in the name of science or security, but it's not clear if she enjoys that part of it the way Alessandra and Juliette have demonstrated. Veronica pretends to be entirely logical, but we know she feels conflicted like Dominique.

Veronica could have wasted/killed for her cold science and ordered more deaths for the "good" of the company than Juliette.But she showed her sweet/good side this update.
Alessandra is hanging around with Sam and evil twin but maybe could still be turned to the light.

 

[sdawg1234]

You haven't seen it. It goes -way- beyond that. It's going to break Kwame when he finds out what Dominique has done and has had others do to

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Wow I didn't see that since I followed her advice and tried to get on Veronica's good side. Definitely changes my view of her a little bit. I know they're all messed up, but I always saw her as the nice sister since she's shown as a more charitable person.

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

Wow I didn't see that since I followed her advice and tried to get on Veronica's good side. Definitely changes my view of her a little bit. I know they're all messed up, but I always saw her as the nice sister since she's shown as a more charitable person.

Me too. Tess warned us here that Dominique had a darker side and was corruptible, but actually watching Dominique get off on

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still caught me by surprise. I wasn't expecting her to turn out to secretly be both a physical and emotional sadist. She not only knows just where to stick the emotional knife for maximum heartache to her victim's partner, but also manages to convince her victim to acquiesce to her own victimization. She's planned the whole tragedy out like a sadistic virtuoso.

 

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I did not realize there was evil route dialogue for Doninque. I just picked Jullite for my evil route

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

I did not realize there was evil route dialogue for Doninque. I just picked Jullite for my evil route

I believe all 5 Karlsson sisters including Olivia will be candidates for evil romances. We've seen the beginnings of evil dom romances with Dominique, Alessandra and Juliette in 0.6.

 

[NukaCola]

Well, I saw that. Thank you for the clue. This game continues to surprise me. It would seem that I've gone all the way with Dom routes, but no, there's always some choice in KG that will have far-reaching consequences. This game is truly magnificent.

As for that new scene with Dominique - I really liked it, the staging is excellent, the aesthetics are present, shot beautifully and tastefully. Dominique is hot as hell here. The only thing I don't quite agree with is the developer's warning that the choice of this scene is "too much" by the developer's own standards.(*warning* evil scene even hard working dev thinks so *warning*) Of course, everyone has different tastes and different preferences and for me personally is just a very hot scene with a medium level of BDSM exposure. I'm probably too pervy, sorry Tess, but years of watching kink.com and insex.com productions (not to mention the totally badass and perverted torture galaxy) have done their dirty work.

As for the inner turmoil and excitement, I was much more affected by the truly evil scene on Juliette's yacht and especially its finale. And that finale is probably exactly what I wouldn't want to see again. But it's a really tough and strong scene, and scenes like that should be in the game to show honestly and frankly all the things we should expect from Juliette (and the depth of perversity to which the human mind can reach).

Hey. I agree about the constant dev warning for those scene that dev consider evil. Sorry but tbh all those scene consider evil by developer's own standards is quite tame for me. They are just a a very hot and enjoyable sex scene . And yes that scene with Dominique is indeed very hot
Me everytime I see those warning:

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I think tess puts those warnings in there to avoid hearing people bitch about them. I dont think anythings topped that box death yet but I get why shes done it.

I find veronicas cold indifference to the experiments she performs a helluva lot scarier than her sisters getting off on crazy shit. I cant really say that other than olivia that one is more or less crazier sister than the other. It just comes down to what their filters let them do.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Just went back through to see the veronica scenes and something just occurred to me, are the sisters somehow supposed to be connected to the elements

Dom=earth
Veronica=wind
Juliette=fire
Alessandra = water
?

 

[PGpauljp13]

Just went back through to see the veronica scenes and something just occurred to me, are the sisters somehow supposed to be connected to the elements

Dom=earth
Veronica=wind
Juliette=fire
Alessandra = water
?

Good try but Juliette likes water too!

 

[Don Sucio]

I've been thinking for several days whether to accept the Sponsorship that Juliette and Dominique offer you being K3 (I think that's my rank), but I don't know whether to accept since they say that not even Warden could severely punish me without their permission...I what What I want is precisely for Warden to punish me the most. Do you recommend I accept one of the two or decline their offer?

 

[TheElwoodBlues]

Holy fuck. Dom evil on both male and female mc's and this update was so fucking good. Now I find I missed some evil shit probably because I picked jules as my sponsor.

This vn is just too damn good. Thank you tess especially for the growing NETORI scenes. Love the sadistic side to cucking some loser. Cannot wait to see thad's face when I'm balls deep in his woman which he never even had yet.

Looks like I'll being playing through this huge vn sometime soon to see what I missed so far.

Again Ty for this vn. Such a guilty pleasure

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

I've been thinking for several days whether to accept the Sponsorship that Juliette and Dominique offer you being K3 (I think that's my rank), but I don't know whether to accept since they say that not even Warden could severely punish me without their permission...I what What I want is precisely for Warden to punish me the most. Do you recommend I accept one of the two or decline their offer?

Which of the Karlsson sisters, including Olivia, do you want to help win the Gambit? If you have a good relationship with Olivia you are unlikely to need a sponsorship from either Dominique or Juliette. They're making their offers because they're worried Olivia will win the Gambit, not because they really care about a sub MC. If you accept Juliette's offer expect to be required to watch and do evil stuff to other people. Dominique will likely keep her darker side under wraps as long as you make her happy, probably. If you want a sponsorship from Veronica you probably should hold off. Alessandra isn't interested in sponsoring MC's on the sub path. So pick one of the other 4 to be your main mistress, or try to survive without a protectress.

A Sub MC who disobeys or betrays his sponsor to help another sister win the Gambit is probably in for some vengeance. We'll see if the eventual Gambit winner is willing and able to achieve power quickly enough to protect him from the vengeance of a powerful woman scorned by someone she feels is beneath her.

 

[Don Sucio]

Which of the Karlsson sisters, including Olivia, do you want to help win the Gambit? If you have a good relationship with Olivia you are unlikely to need a sponsorship from either Dominique or Juliette. They're making their offers because they're worried Olivia will win the Gambit, not because they really care about a sub MC. If you accept Juliette's offer expect to be required to watch and do evil stuff to other people. Dominique will likely keep her darker side under wraps as long as you make her happy, probably. If you want a sponsorship from Veronica you probably should hold off. Alessandra isn't interested in sponsoring MC's on the sub path. So pick one of the other 4 to be your main mistress, or try to survive without a protectress.

A Sub MC who disobeys or betrays his sponsor to help another sister win the Gambit is probably in for some vengeance. We'll see if the eventual Gambit winner is willing and able to achieve power quickly enough to protect him from the vengeance of a powerful woman scorned by someone she feels is beneath her.

I have a lousy relationship with Olivia, I want my male MC to be treated as badly as possible and I want Olivia to win the throne, so should I just decline her offer?

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

I have a lousy relationship with Olivia, I want my male MC to be treated as badly as possible and I want Olivia to win the throne, so should I just decline her offer?

Badly as possible? You could pick Juliette and then refuse to do anything evil and later betray her for Olivia. That will probably get you the worst possible treatment from her, and she does appear to be the cruelest. Either that or don't pick a sponsor, continue to alienate Olivia, than pick her to win the Gambit anyway. You'll probably get the most abuse from Olivia that way.

BTW, if you want to be treated as badly as possible how come you're a k3 instead of a k2 or a provisional k1? Olivia must have been at least a little pleased with you.

 

[Stan5851]

I believe all 5 Karlsson sisters including Olivia will be candidates for evil romances. We've seen the beginnings of evil dom romances with Dominique, Alessandra and Juliette in 0.6.

You're right, so far it looks very similar. Except I'm not at all sure about a possible affair with Olivia. You must have seen this post by Tess about incest in KG. There are some hints at the end of her post, but they're too vague and indefinite, so I wouldn't count on anything much (lest I get frustrated later). On the other hand, we need to understand exactly what kind of relatives Kane and Olivia are to each other. (not what is on the surface about brother and sister, but in reality). But assuming that Olivia's mother is not Callista, but still Elena, then Olivia and Kane are simply half-siblings and then there is no apparent obstacle to their starting a love affair in the future.

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

You're right, so far it looks very similar. Except I'm not at all sure about a possible affair with Olivia. You must have seen this post by Tess about incest in KG. There are some hints at the end of her post, but they're too vague and indefinite, so I wouldn't count on anything much (lest I get frustrated later). On the other hand, we need to understand exactly what kind of relatives Kane and Olivia are to each other. (not what is on the surface about brother and sister, but in reality). But assuming that Olivia's mother is not Callista, but still Elena, then Olivia and Kane are simply half-siblings and then there is no apparent obstacle to their starting a love affair in the future.

Kane is the son of

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They are not at all biologically related. They are not yet aware of this, at least Kane isn't (I'm not entirely sure about Olivia after 0.6's opening) but I expect the bomb to probably drop next update. No biological relation, so no incest. The whole point of the Gambit is to produce a male heir with the genes of both Alexander Karlsson and Callista, and it has been made clear that Olivia has a shot at winning the Gambit.

 

[Don Sucio]

Badly as possible? You could pick Juliette and then refuse to do anything evil and later betray her for Olivia. That will probably get you the worst possible treatment from her, and she does appear to be the cruelest. Either that or don't pick a sponsor, continue to alienate Olivia, than pick her to win the Gambit anyway. You'll probably get the most abuse from Olivia that way.

BTW, if you want to be treated as badly as possible how come you're a k3 instead of a k2 or a provisional k1? Olivia must have been at least a little pleased with you.

In the end I am going to decline the two offers and continue without sponsorships, that way I stay more on Olivia's side and that way she does not have to answer to anyone to do what she wants with me. Regarding why I'm not less than K3 if I'm looking to have a hard time, it's basically because when I started playing (a long time ago) I didn't know what was the maximum that could be lowered in rank, and being very advanced I'm quite lazy to start over hahaha, one day I will, but from the outset I think K3 is bad enough for me, although I don't mind suffering more.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Good try but Juliette likes water too!

She likes her boat but im not sure thats the same thing though admittedly we wont know till we find out how juliette relaxes when nobody else is around. Shes the most tight lipped of the sisters when it comes to that

 

[Stan5851]

Kane is the son of

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They are not at all biologically related. They are not yet aware of this, at least Kane isn't (I'm not sure about Olivia after 0.6's opening) but I expect the bomb to probably drop next update. No biological relation, so no incest. The whole point of the Gambit is to produce a male heir with the genes of both Alexander Karlsson and Callista, and it has been made clear that Olivia has a shot at winning the Gambit.

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[Mwanted]

TessSadist
I already complimented you on how intricate is the game and how incredibly fun and satisfying is to roleplay it.
Now I'm doing basically my third unique playthrough (mc sub + evil sis, ouch ), and I found another aspect of your work that often remains unnoticed (in general) but I think it's incredibly important: expressions (and gestures).
Idk how much you spend on it but I find them really good (especially on the female characters) and they help a lot on the immersion and enjoyment of a scene.
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