Damn it, so much info in the sub route ༎ຶ‿༎ຶIn Ep7 Phoebe tells sub MC he has a Sister, and seems not to mention it is Olivia.
Perhaps Callista was pregnant with the Sister.
Or Sister is Coles Daugther with another Women?
Cole and one of AK Sisters?
The two masked Women could be the Sisters of AK, they where Triplets (Veronica tells Olivia)Damn it, so much info in the sub route ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
Let me try to find & I'll edit this afterwards
Edit: Found it:
ph "...you have a sister."
p "Umm, I know that Mistress?"
ph "Do you? Maybe I'm still doing you a favor..."
Hope it's not astrid, I liked her
Also, can it be one of the face hidden characters?
Anyway, I'm sure the sister will be a great character & then everyone will cry at the no incest rule ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
To answer your first question, Michael is the husband.Michael's the DeKock kid right? Or his dad? Stefan will end up being a weak-willed incompetent jerk. In sub path cause he doesn't fit into the Femdom set-up & in dom path cause you can't allow another guy to circumvent the whole "only worthwhile man" thing the MC has going in every harem novel.
There's already a scene back in previous versions where She says he shouldn't be sure of his position:
cyn "Be quiet! Your lack of patience and wisdom only makes me that much more curious about him! Don't assume your future is set Stefan...it's not."
cyn "Any son of Cole and Callista is important to me...for obvious reasons."
cyn "And Delilah, I trust you have not gotten too...close to anyone? And especially...you haven't fucked [pname]?"
de "No Mother, of course not!"
This was probably an early clue to many ppl thinking that Cole was related to the Dekocks.
I still think there's more than meets the eye here though, since the pier scene seemed intentionally vague about stating the guy as the father...
So what Cynthia thinks she knows about MC's parentage might not be the truth
Anyway, the answer you'll get here is about whether cousin incest counts & whether the dev included that when saying no incest.
Oh, where's that info from??
Also, another thought I've had after learning about Astrid: Seth's condition seems to be a rare genetic condition & now we have 2 ppl with that condition. I wondered if they shared a parent or 2.
Also, Astrid & Kane cannot share a parent if there will be anything sexual between them, so hope not.
And if Astrid & Seth share a parent, that means Kane cannot be related to him either
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Also I think the relationship charts are fan-made. Basically they are updated as we get more info I think. Releasing a chart with info not yet in-game would be huuuge spoilers. It was confirmed in this chapter but I think the old chart I saw (I haven't seen ch7 version of the chart) wasn't sure of it, hence my views on it being outdated (junko romance is such a narrow path).
Alexander was obsessed with Callista. Given his bestfriend knocked up his lover, I'd argue he'd prefer a child of Callista not related to Cole if such an option was available. Sure he's dead & might not have known about Seth & all that, but still, I don't agree with the less valueable theory.
After all it's Callista. I don't think any man she has a child with can be called of no consequence. Just look at her importance in the story.
Sure the genetic condition can be a factor, but limiting Callista's blood to one person would make the stakes higher.
So storywise it makes more sense if Kane was Callista's only blood-related child & she didn't get knocked up by another guy after leaving.
Also the hacker, most likely nadia, saying only the MC's blood can unlock the bracelet. (Though MC atm thought Seth& Olivia was Callista's blood too )
Here's pros for a wild theory:
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Anyway, it's all pretty vague.
I still think the 3 characters being not blood related would make for a better story.
I think 3 unrelated but raised together siblings would make the best storyline, & the key to the gambit should be only 1, no back-ups.
So Seth shouldn't be MC's back-up, but have another role in the gambit(Olivia too).
I think the 3 should be evenly unrelated, & not that MC & Seth are related but not Olivia.
PS:
Seth-Kane convo:
p "Yeah, I trust your gut if you think so. So unless neither of you is Mom's...she's not a biological mother to one of you. Did she say who?"
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bro "No, and I don't believe she knows. I personally suspect she's not Mom's real daughter...given her rapid rise and situation compared to us."
bro "And that might impact you too...just think about it logically. You're not related the same way to one of us by default."
If Kane had seen Callista pregnant with Seth he wouldn't question who the unrelated child was. So it means Kane isn't sure if either Seth or Olivia is Callista's child, making the argument that he saw Callista pregnant void.
Olivia-Elena convo:
sis "He's not? How do you know for sure?"
ec "I just confirmed it with Veronica Karlsson. There is no doubt about this fact. She would not lie to me about something like this..."
sis "But how? And does he know?"
ec "No."
sis "Wow."
Olivia-Seth convo:
bro "But wait...what about [pname]? And Mom? That means that at least one of us isn't her biological child either. Which one of us isn't?"
sis "(He's...he's right! I was so shocked...didn't even think of it when told...) I...I don't know. I'll try and find out."
If either Kane or Olivia saw Callista pregnant with Seth, they'd have that confirmed. Yet all 3 are looking it from every angle. Ergo, they are not sure Seth is Callista's son by birth.
It's on the sub path if you go to the Black Room. Phoebe will tell Kane he has a sister.Oh, where's that info from??
Also, another thought I've had after learning about Astrid: Seth's condition seems to be a rare genetic condition & now we have 2 ppl with that condition. I wondered if they shared a parent or 2.
Also, Astrid & Kane cannot share a parent if there will be anything sexual between them, so hope not.
And if Astrid & Seth share a parent, that means Kane cannot be related to him either
This relationship chart (v7) was published by Tess herself, so I'm pretty sure she's the one who made it, or at least (if she had someone helping her) approved of its content. So it's canon.Also I think the relationship charts are fan-made. Basically they are updated as we get more info I think. Releasing a chart with info not yet in-game would be huuuge spoilers.
"I would also recommend using the relationship chart created by a great user Kxca, that highlights a lot of the characters with pictures, etc. It's just a nice chart to help keep track of every character." - From version 6 walkthrough. And yeah, it'd be canon since it should be based on game content. I remember v6 cole was speculation but v7 it is confirmed on the junko route so the chart should be updated. If dev released info not in game thru the chart, it'd be spoilers. So anything on the chart should be verifiable in-game.This relationship chart (v7) was published by Tess herself, so I'm pretty sure she's the one who made it, or at least (if she had someone helping her) approved of its content. So it's canon.
Yeah. Forgot the "not half sisters" part. So Astrid should be availableIt's on the sub path if you go to the Black Room. Phoebe will tell Kane he has a sister.
I talked a lot about how it could have made sense for Veronica to be that sister (Callista would have been the mother), but the dev said no biological sister/brother sexual content, so it would leave Nadia. Astrid and Veronica aren't half-sisters too, they have the same parents, so if Astrid and Seth are siblings, it would mean he's also a Karlsson or Yvette's son (or another woman who isn't Callista).
Seeing your mother pregnant with your younger sibling & giving birth to them wouldn't be so insignificant that you forget it. If they saw Seth's pregnancy & birth, they'd have known for sure, shocking information about childhood notwithstanding. So pregnancy confirmation by Olivia or MC is definitely out.As for the pregnancy thing, Kane got brand new information that his childhood was a lie, I wouldnt expect him to suddenly guess which person is his real brother or sister based on things he knows of his past. Same for Olivia, once she thought about it, she knew exactly who wasnt Callista's kid which is likely why she was so easily able to deduce/ accept that she was Elena's kid.
Damn it. Hopefully we get to see some of it on the dom path through the game show...I noticed a definite increase of CBT content, both verbal and physical, in this last patch, and I just wanted to say it's appreciated.
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Has nothing to do with being insignificant and everything to do with being shocked with the knowledge that one of the people that you grew up with isnt really your sibling and your forgetting certain things in the moment.Seeing your mother pregnant with your younger sibling & giving birth to them wouldn't be so insignificant that you forget it. If they saw Seth's pregnancy & birth, they'd have known for sure, shocking information about childhood notwithstanding. So pregnancy confirmation by Olivia or MC is definitely out.
The game thrives on keeping things vague, so I can bet they didn't see Callista pregnant & have no definite proof.
Not so sure about Seth's parentage, but I just think it'd go with the flow so far if none of the Siblings were related. Seth being backup for the MC feels lazy for this game.
I think they were all gathered for the gambit by Callista & have their own roles instead of being back-ups.
But again, all speculation.
Only thing I feel certain about is they don't have concrete information about seeing Callista give birth to Seth. It's never mentioned even when they are wondering about it, so they are all in the dark - which makes for a more interesting mystery.
Damn it. Hopefully we get to see some of it on the dom path through the game show...
You get such a shocking knowledge about your sibling & the 1st thing your mind goes to will be your childhood & memories of your siblings. There's no way Olivia wouldn't immediately react if she had seen Callista pregnant when she was 4/5.Has nothing to do with being insignificant and everything to do with being shocked with the knowledge that one of the people that you grew up with isnt really your sibling and your forgetting certain things in the moment.
There's legit no way that Callista would be able to hide adopting a whole ass child while raising two other kids. If theres a year between Kane and Seth, you could maybe explain away Kanes memory, but Olivia by that point is at least 4 or 5 so shed definitely know if Seth was adopted or not.
We all areIt just clicked my mind that there is fuckseth point so there might be fuckkane point in future too because of names of Gods but it is not looking as both MCs can be controlled by us and given how things are progressing between kane and olivia my this hypothesis should be truly wrong. I am rooting for kane and olivia!
There is a flashback scene where Callista lost "Luke" in "not-an-accident".There's legit no way that Callista would be able to hide adopting a whole ass child while raising two other kids. If theres a year between Kane and Seth, you could maybe explain away Kanes memory, but Olivia by that point is at least 4 or 5 so shed definitely know if Seth was adopted or not.
Still runs into the whole never mentioning the pregnancy in game debate (just can't believe a person wouldn't immediately flashback to seeing their little sibling for the 1st time in their mothers arms after a life-changing 10-month wait, if told that person isn't their brother/sister)There is a flashback scene where Callista lost "Luke" in "not-an-accident".
What if she was pregnant 20+ years ago, lost her baby and got baby Seth instead from whatever source ... the children would have seen her pregnant, go to hospital and return with a baby.
On the other side if Seth has the same biological parents as Kane, then he can fuck all the women Kane can fuck without violating the incest taboo ... easy for the dev. Seth just shouldn't fuck Kane.
we need an answer like i just wanna watch the galaxy burnIt is exactly the kind of bullshit hypothetical that a shitty girlfriend would try and trap you with.
My assumption implies that Calista is Nadia's mother and that there was an exchange of children at the time of delivery, with this we would have the sister identified and Seth is not blood related.Still runs into the whole never mentioning the pregnancy in game debate (just can't believe a person wouldn't immediately flashback to seeing their little sibling for the 1st time in their mothers arms after a life-changing 10-month wait, if told that person isn't their brother/sister)
But let's table that, since I can understand Miles point too.
Seth doesn't have a dom path yet & probably won't on the dom track, but might be considered as a counterpoint to the sub MC in the sub path (Like the dick comparison in the kiyomi scene).
So that might be worth taking into consideration.
Tbh there are pros to Seth being MC's replacement game setting wise, especially for the sub track. But I feel storywise it'd be better if Seth had a distinct identity/part in the gambit instead of being the 2nd son/replacement.
I'm actually open minded about Seth's origins (as in don't care), but am leaning slightly towards "3 siblings all not blood related" story-development-wise.
Seth certainly is intriguing in this aspect. Given his last scene in Island 4, I think it'll be better(more fun) to have this theory crafting in ep8, if that isn't fully occupied by the game show. We should get some clues from more Seth scenes.
Maybe someone remembers the pregnancy, or lack thereof. But your theory already threw a pebble into that pond (pregnancy confirmation)
PS: By a similar logic, Seth not being related to the MC might open up at least one option for Nadia...
Nice theory actually. That'd make Seth a DeKock, cementing his importance (kinda bothered me Seth was a random birth, even if Callista was one of the parents, see what I said about Callista being too important to get knocked up by random plebs)My assumption implies that Calista is Nadia's mother and that there was an exchange of children at the time of delivery, with this we would have the sister identified and Seth is not blood related.