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PickerLewd

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You only get the tongue modification, if you choose Kane instead of Jake in the sub playthrough (K1-k4)… but most definitely there will be a greater variety of content since k1-k2 ( is more of the slave playthrough) and k3-k4 is the servant play differential… some characters will have want kane no matter what but some characters will be exclusive to those respective turnouts… there’s also some characters that’ll romance Sub Kane but I put those characters in k3-k4…(you’ve probably saw my route tree already lol)
You mean the decision way way back when Olivia meets the Doc? And no, I haven't seen your route tree :LOL:, is it a pdf file?
 
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You mean the decision way way back when Olivia meets the Doc? And no, I haven't seen your route tree :LOL:, is it a pdf file?
Yes...all the way back then!

However, the beauty of using URM means you could change that flag on the fly if you wanted to either see the content or make a save right before and then have saves for both routes. I don't think URM would affect your machine speed too much.
 
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Thankfully or interestingly, perks aside (home/servant) most of DomKane's content does not change at all. I hoping on the non-show choice we get a little more interaction with our girls, though we didn't in part 1....so maybe it really is a bad choice content wise if nothing else.
The problem is that a top-ranked Kane who is good has no business being on that freak show.
I have to admit that I naively thought that by refusing the show, being a quasi-executive and believing that all the witches would be at the show for days, we'd be free to find out new things or walk around the place a bit on our own. How naive... :ROFLMAO:.
 

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The problem is that a top-ranked Kane who is good has no business being on that freak show.
I have to admit that I naively thought that by refusing the show, being a quasi-executive and believing that all the witches would be at the show for days, we'd be free to find out new things or walk around the place a bit on our own. How naive... :ROFLMAO:.
Haha yeah...I'm hoping in part 2 and 3 we get 'something' to do....not a scene with someone specific (like the Veronica scene) but maybe just some pod interaction...or doing something with your assistant..just...keeping ourselves busy with normal high rank stuff.

Even if that's just reading the paper while watching Svetlana clean the apartment in a thong. Hell..make it a mini-game..bend over to pick up the remote...reach up to dust that shelf...
 
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You mean the decision way way back when Olivia meets the Doc? And no, I haven't seen your route tree :LOL:, is it a pdf file?
Yes! And it’s not in a pdf (I should convert it into one but I’m lazy…) but here are the current routes for sub Kane (haven’t done secret sub yet) but Miss Tess Agreed with all of it-



Sub Kane (K1-4) ->
> Can Join Olivia’s Faction as a **Servant** /**Slave** or Not (**Can Join but later betray them and Join another Faction**) comprised of Elena and other characters (Unknown atm)
> {Have Elena has a Sponsorship}~ Can also have Dominique or Juliette’s Sponsorship, but might lead to consequences or reward…
> Can Lead to Picking Katsumi as your mistress (since you can pick characters in a faction)

Sub Kane (K3-4) ->
> Juliette’s Servant/Sponsorship/Faction with Other Characters (Unknown atm)
> {Kyle presumably Killed for Sub Kane(Servant) /+ More Points if Sub Kane lead Jake/Zach to death}

Sub Kane (K3-K4) ->
> Dominique Servant/Sponsorship/Faction with other Characters (Maybe Ties in with Juliette’s Faction).
> {Very Little Info on this}

Sub Kane (K1-K2) ->
> Juliette’s Slave and belongs to Juliette’s Faction),
> {Can Lead to Actual Death in K1}<-> > {K2-Slave} [Need More Info]

Sub Kane (K1-K2) ->
> Dominique Slave/Belongs to Dominique Faction,
> {May lead to death? (K1)}<~> {K2-Alive slave}
> [If accepting Help from Dominique with Juliette’s game, Your indebted to her]

Sub Kane (K3-K4) ->
> Delilah’s Servant, [Very Hinted at],
> Leads to Joining the Decock’s Faction, {Note- May lead Nadia’s assistance},
> Most likely will have to Sacrifice Zach or Delilah will just forget about him…
> Might lead with also Involving Nadia and or Cynthia to an extent

Sub Kane (K3-K4) ->
> Veronica’s Servant/Romancable, Serves Characters of Veronica’s Faction,
> Leads to Claudia Sub Romance, >Junkos Sub Romance,
> as Well as Olivias (depends),
- maybe Slave to Veronica?
>Kiyomis “sub” path

Sub Kane K2- Doctor Chastain, Might be Veronica’s faction idk?.!!.
 
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It will be somewhat interesting to learn why everyone cares so much about the gambit. The board functions.. so what's the need? Presumably it's an attempt to create a peace agreement or a path for cooperation between the Karlssons and the Syndicate. But that's a rather insane gamble unless the outcome can be guaranteed (which it absolutely won't, if I have it my way). I'm not sure why anyone would care about what some dead guy wanted, unless there's something vital locked away by an AI, that is only accessible once Alexander gets what he wanted.

Let's assume that our MC ends up in a position of almost absolute power while in charge of both corporations.. there seems to be a lot of delusions going on in regards to the primary gambit players. It's as if nobody has had the thought that it might backfire rather spectacularly.
 
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Now I'm convinced you haven't done Dominique as a primary sponsor. Now I'm convinced you haven't done Dominique as a primary sponsor.
It is you who is wrong, Dominique is my main sponsor in some of my Dom saves and I am well aware of the scene you tried to describe.. As for the main part of your post, once again you failed to surprise by spouting your trademark (c) meaningless walls of text that carry no useful information and are demagoguery mixed with your personal fantasies. Try harder next time.
 
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Well, we still don't know the exact terms and details of the Gambit... we know that Kane is to be tested and deemed worthy (or not) and it's very likely that they're all bound to secrecy about him until he reaches a certain level (probably K10)... it's also quite likely that IF Kane were to somehow get that info before time, he'd be disqualified because his testing could be considered "tainted" or whatever, which is why no one is telling him jackshit, not the sisters, not his mom, not Yvette or Elena. They're all probably bound to secrecy about the whole thing under serious threats.

Also, part of the secrecy is that he is also supposed to breed a sister so that Alexander gets his desired descendant, so if he were told that, it could be done without following the terms of the Gambit... in fact, Dominique tries to cheat. But anyways, as long as we don't know the full deal of the Gambit, it's kinda hard to explain everything... but so far it mostly makes sense.

The DeKocks are a bit more puzzling, they obviously know what's going on but are also keeping quiet... but I'm sure we can come up with some reasonable speculation as to why they're doing it... it's probably part of a powerplay anyways, but both groups are super secretive and don't like showing their hand... there's obviously a lot of scheming going on, I'm sure we'll get more info soon enough.
 

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Theory-crafting Time!
I know I'm an update late, but I didn't get to contribute:

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While interesting, I never got the impression Alesandra 'sent' Pat after anyone. I don't particulary think Pat was any part of Alessa's plan to two sisters fighting.

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Slow down! I gotta type all this out...
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Mmm... nah, you're seeing everything through a very anti-Veronica lense for some reason. You keep saying that if she really was interested in saving humanity then she should just abandon the Gambit, but that's super disingenous, that assumes that everyone would be okay with it no questions asked.

She doesn't WANT power, but she NEEDS power, she needs someone at the head of the KG to create some sense of peace and stability so that she can focus on the important things...

Also, Veronica's not an idiot, she is keeping I4 secret for a very good reason, and that reason is that she's probably not gonna take any of those rich & powerful assholes, including possibly her sisters... she needs the KG to function properly until everything can be readied, you can't build a massive arc or try to solve the problems in the world with a power struggle within the KG and possibly open warfare between the KG and the Syndicate.

But let's say that Veronica is indeed behind everything and she's just manipulating everyone to suit her goals, again, she IS trying to save humanity, so how is she evil? You didn't quite answer that question.
 
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But let's say that Veronica is indeed behind everything and she's just manipulating everyone to suit her goals
She is.

Before the meeting with Elena and Yvette, only she and Callista knew the details of the Gambit (and how much each of them knows is open to interpretation). Currently, as far as we are aware, only those four currently know (though Yvette and Elena only know what Veronica shared...and I suspect Olivia knows). So she is very much manipulating everyone...whether by design of the Gambit or intention.

As you say, Island 4 a secret. Astrid...a secret. the Gambit...secret....she holds...all the cards. Dominique is suspecting Kanes real importance (and no she never cheats or tried to get pregnant, no idea where you got that from, the cum scene was so she could test it (and that scene and the scene with Eolise are both optional btw)).

Veronica knows everything....anyone else knows what she chooses to tell them.
 
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While interesting, I never got the impression Alesandra 'sent' Pat after anyone. I don't particulary think Pat was any part of Alessa's plan to two sisters fighting.

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What I do find strange is that Alessandra said that despite her best efforts from the shadows, she's failed to get the animosity going, but there hasn't been any indication that she's been doing anything outside of escorting Olivia, and influencing (or fucking) Kane.

Like I said, I don't see cold calculating Veronica getting to "murderous rage" outside of a legitimate threat on Astrid. ... Of course Nadia shattering her illusion of absolute control seems to have really pissed her off, so maybe some greater upset against the Control Freak would put her over the edge, and yeah, only Dominique has the resources to pull that off.

I feel to say they "dislike each other" is an overstatement, more like they have "an uncomfortable working relationship" that looks to have been stronger once upon a time, as demonstrated in both the Restoration Project and the secret N.O.A.H. project, which is why Dominique was certain she had Veronica's support in the Gambit. However, Dominique's attitude when challenging Veronica's support decision, and her expression after Veronica gives her response, shows the Dominique feels both hurt and betrayed by Veronica, thus the relationship is damaged. However, Dominique, as she is constantly reminded, is not Alexander, so a single slight or betrayal is not enough to launch her on the warpath, but I do suspect a second betrayal, or discovering evidence of everything Veronica has been doing that will bar Dominique's chance of victory, can send her over the edge.

It's even possible that Alessandra's earlier attempt WAS leaking the evidence of Veronica's favoritism to Dominique, who instead took the measured path: convince Juliette, confront Veronica.
 

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That is indeed what my first hunch was but we narrowed that out I believe (I had him check for file Write permissions). I'll flag drisarter here just in case. Thanks bud.
Thanks for this and to you Silver_Crow117. I did what you suggested in the terminal (and also to the renpy launcher app as I'm loading the KG app using that) but it is still giving the same error. I suspect this is no surprise (as I think what you suggested was just designed to set the write permissions, which we'd already checked?)

I've tried again to enable developer mode / access the console so I can get you the information you needed Sancho and the methods I'm attempting don't seem to work? I tried to follow the various methods outlined here:







And neither the developer mode nor the console will open when I press Shift+D, Shift+O, etc.
 
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Why does everybody think a ticket to the island keeps people in check? The way I understand it, the only people who know of the island's true purpose are Astrid and Veronica. Nadia probably learned of its existence, and leveraged said knowledge into a meeting with Kane but I doubt that Cynthia knows anything about said island. Definitely not enough to keep her in check. I assume she's behaving herself because dumb ass Callista gave them a valuable hostage and they dare not make a move for fear of what happens to Kane.

Good thing ole mother of the year let her son in on her dumb assed plan of putting him in said gambit to unite the families... wait.
 

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What I do find strange is that Alessandra said that despite her best efforts from the shadows, she's failed to get the animosity going, but there hasn't been any indication that she's been doing anything outside of escorting Olivia, and influencing (or fucking) Kane.

Like I said, I don't see cold calculating Veronica getting to "murderous rage" outside of a legitimate threat on Astrid. ... Of course Nadia shattering her illusion of absolute control seems to have really pissed her off, so maybe some greater upset against the Control Freak would put her over the edge, and yeah, only Dominique has the resources to pull that off.

I feel to say they "dislike each other" is an overstatement, more like they have "an uncomfortable working relationship" that looks to have been stronger once upon a time, as demonstrated in both the Restoration Project and the secret N.O.A.H. project, which is why Dominique was certain she had Veronica's support in the Gambit. However, Dominique's attitude when challenging Veronica's support decision, and her expression after Veronica gives her response, shows the Dominique feels both hurt and betrayed by Veronica, thus the relationship is damaged. However, Dominique, as she is constantly reminded, is not Alexander, so a single slight or betrayal is not enough to launch her on the warpath, but I do suspect a second betrayal, or discovering evidence of everything Veronica has been doing that will bar Dominique's chance of victory, can send her over the edge.

It's even possible that Alessandra's earlier attempt WAS leaking the evidence of Veronica's favoritism to Dominique, who instead took the measured path: convince Juliette, confront Veronica.
I imagine at the moment Alessandra is just nudging, she's likely being careful of having anything traced back to her so a suggestion here, a suggestion there and hopefully the sisters anger reaches a critical boiling point. She's now likely using Pat to ramp shit up. I imagine through her reports to Veronica that were established in chapter 2
 

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... Callista gave them a valuable hostage...
... Crap! That's probably where #7 is... which explains #7's absence at the most critical time in KG's history, why Elena/Veronica are even allowing these audiences with Kane at all, and likely why KG has "invited" DS at this vulnerable time.

At this point I would not be surprised if #7 is ANOTHER secret sister (Olivia was revealed in Ep. 4-5, Astrid in 6-7), MAYBE a mother. Either way, it's nobody we've met yet.
 

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SisTeam is only relevent in terms of Kane 'aligning' with Olivia's goals and intentions. Olivia wants to take over the Karlsson Group, so basically, do you have her back on that objective? Conversely, while on this topic, SisBro is relevent in how much Olivia has Kanes back in the program. Does she want to keep her eye out for him. While we're also on the topic of the two main characters, while the PrincessEyes variable come from nearly all Kane choices, they are actually an Olivia variable in how Olivia views Kane, not the other way around (and in ep.8, the WorthySon points are actually Elena points, even though again, it's Kane who 'chooses' the points). Just to make sure you're clear on all that.

SisSub currently has no effect other than how she reacts to events and people around her in terms of choices affecting events within the Joy Facility and mainly the board members. Whether it has a longer term effect in terms of how Olivia interacts with Kane, we shall have to wait and see, hopefully though it will or my KaneDom/SisSub save will be pointless lol.

As for dom/sub Kane...well, two completely very different paths, completely. One is a pathetic simp loser (sorry...sorry sub guys hahahaha) and the other starts to take control of his life and move upo the 'corporate' ladder. Two completely different paths. Though go back a page and you will find my notes on the SubK5+ route, which starts as a sub and becomes a dom path but Kane stays sexually submissive.

On each path, Dom or Sub you will miss roughly half of the content of the VN basically. Each path is unique other than world events that everyone sees. As fpor do/don't suggestions, I would personally recommend trying to start as a K6 Good/Dom...get MeetDominique points (do not get more than 1 MeetVeronica points), get her sponsorship immediately and be sure to keep Junko's Romance Open, she will fast-track you to K7 (what you do and with who matters not after this) so can end Ep.07 at K9 (which should end you as a K10/M1 at the end of 8Part3). That would be my advised recommended first save. With Good/Dom/IOlivia as a LI (as think this is pretty obviously the cannon route).


No offence dude...but have you any idea how many variables, points, flags and different choices can be made in this? I'm guessing not and you're just lazy and want other folk to do everything for you. If you had perhaps said, does anyone have a save with x, y, z, and ab flagged, I might have be inclined to help you...

It will take 10 to 15 mins to skip through the content to create an end of 0.7Final save. I suggest you do that, and maybe a please wouldn't go amiss next time either.
also I get being courteous but how am I supposed to fit please into this sentence? "does anyone have any of the female dom path saves at the end of the last version?" I'll just say does anyone please have any of the female dom path saves at the end of the last version? Doesn't make much sense does it
That wasn't Veronica. Read Alexander's dialogue again...carefully.

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    ak "You are such a brilliant mind. Shining far more than I even though you hide it very well."
    xx "I know what you truly want Father. I will do it, if it is a worthy choice."
    ak "I know...I am glad too. I knew you truly understood me deep down."
    ak "...So brilliant, but I worried as I taught you that you were not willing to do what was necessary to control your fate."
    ak "But only now as I look into your eyes...*cough*...truly only right now do I actually see you as I die..."
    ak "I understand now and I see your real brilliance because you even fooled me didn't you?"
    xx "Yes, Father."
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Does that really sound like he's talking to Veronica? If hoowever you meant Red Tips Mask....then yes that is Veronica and confirmed in Ep8.



You're welcome, glad got it sorted (y)


Because if you actually realised how many different paths and variables/flags there are you'd realise what you're asking for with no context is ridiculous, without giving details of exactly what path you want and decisions made. This is one of the reasons there is no 'choose decisions' at the start of Ep.8.


Yeah this is my thinking also, has to be a Gambit issue...as discussed with Miles yesterday, can't personally see any reason for it anymore given his situation (especially on the sub path..like, what's he gonna do about this information? Nothing).
I know how many different paths and variables there are, I played through the previous version like I said, i wasn't asking for a specific path because I dont know what paths people have saved and im fine with receiving any save someone might have as long as its on a femdom path
 

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... Crap! That's probably where #7 is... which explains #7's absence at the most critical time in KG's history, why Elena/Veronica are even allowing these audiences with Kane at all, and likely why KG has "invited" DS at this vulnerable time.

At this point I would not be surprised if #7 is ANOTHER secret sister (Olivia was revealed in Ep. 4-5, Astrid in 6-7), MAYBE a mother. Either way, it's nobody we've met yet.
wth are you talking about?
 
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