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Why does everybody think a ticket to the island keeps people in check? The way I understand it, the only people who know of the island's true purpose are Astrid and Veronica. Nadia probably learned of its existence, and leveraged said knowledge into a meeting with Kane but I doubt that Cynthia knows anything about said island. Definitely not enough to keep her in check. I assume she's behaving herself because dumb ass Callista gave them a valuable hostage and they dare not make a move for fear of what happens to Kane.

Good thing ole mother of the year let her son in on her dumb assed plan of putting him in said gambit to unite the families... wait.
Wut? it's not "people", just Nadia. And, btw, maybe it's not even a bribe, Vernoica says they've made an agreement... so who knows.

Cynthia is keeping quiet for other reasons, most likely... And no, I don't think it's fear for Kane's safetly, au contraire, I think Cynthia also wants Kane to succeed so a dekock rises to power... remeber, she knows Cole is alive and is about to rescue him, so having Kane rise up within the KG, and then reveal what they did to his dad would basically turn him to their side... it's probably more of a strategic move.
 
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wth are you talking about?
You had conjectured that Callista gave the DeKocks a hostage, and Board Member #7 has been absent the entire game, but in a way that Yvette is determined to keep an absolute secret, so he/she is clearly not "just busy". During this vulnerable time for the company (as described in the Phoebe-Yvette-Elena scene), this is the worst time for a key decision-maker to be absent, and to allow your enemies inside one of your secret facilities (and the most important one for determining your company's future), yet both cases are the status.

Why? What would possess the Board to invite DS at this time? DS leveraging a hostage would certainly make sense, and KG counters with Kane as their own hostage (as Cole is secret even from the Board), thus DS limits their maneuvers to not jeopardize Kane. Cole, Callista, and Astrid cannot be Board Member #7 as their living status are official secrets from other Board members, neither is any of Phoebe's family, nor the DeKocks, else they would have been identified at the Welcome Party, so #7 must be someone we haven't met yet. A kidnapped Board member is definitely not something Yvette will openly admit has occurred, even in front of the perpetrators (look to Cynthia for example: who never accuses KG of holding Cole prisoner, even though she knows they are, instead arranges to locate/rescue him without their knowledge). It’s possible, one of the motivators for Callista faking her death was to be able to pull off the kidnapping. ... perhaps #7 is even Callista's/Cynthia's source for discovering that Cole was alive and still imprisoned (Nadia should have stumbled across his location before realizing he was alive if hacking was the information source).
 
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The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).

So far we've had a lot of mystery boxes in KG, some of them were obvious from the moment they were set up (Olivia's parentage, Red Mask's identity (I fucking told you guys!)) and we got fairly satisfactory revelation scenes. However, plenty more mysteries remain (7th Board member, who's Luke, the Braclet thing etc) and I hope we will get good answers to those in the next few updates, because these mystery boxes can and will outstay their welcome by the end of, say, ep.10. By that time we should be in the Endgame, actively working towards the goal of our choice, not childishly fumbling in the dark looking for answers.
 
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The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).

So far we've had a lot of mystery boxes in KG, some of them were obvious from the moment they were set up (Olivia's parentage, Red Mask's identity (I fucking told you guys!)) and we got fairly satisfactory revelation scenes. However, plenty more mysteries remain (7th Board member, who's Luke, the Braclet thing etc) and I hope we will get good answers to those in the next few updates, because these mystery boxes can and will outstay their welcome by the end of, say, ep.10. By that time we should be in the Endgame, actively working towards the goal of our choice, not childishly fumbling in the dark looking for answers.
I would say the end of Ep. 8 should signal the start of the mystery reveals, with the Gameshow weeding out the chaff/solidifying Kane's fate (eternal slave, K9 cap, or K10+), Callista showing herself inside KG, and Cole now free, the "clock" can't be delayed any longer, things have to start ticking away.

I just wish we had more time to play with Pod W2.
 

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What I do find strange is that Alessandra said that despite her best efforts from the shadows, she's failed to get the animosity going, but there hasn't been any indication that she's been doing anything outside of escorting Olivia, and influencing (or fucking) Kane.

Like I said, I don't see cold calculating Veronica getting to "murderous rage" outside of a legitimate threat on Astrid. ... Of course Nadia shattering her illusion of absolute control seems to have really pissed her off, so maybe some greater upset against the Control Freak would put her over the edge, and yeah, only Dominique has the resources to pull that off.

I feel to say they "dislike each other" is an overstatement, more like they have "an uncomfortable working relationship" that looks to have been stronger once upon a time, as demonstrated in both the Restoration Project and the secret N.O.A.H. project, which is why Dominique was certain she had Veronica's support in the Gambit. However, Dominique's attitude when challenging Veronica's support decision, and her expression after Veronica gives her response, shows the Dominique feels both hurt and betrayed by Veronica, thus the relationship is damaged. However, Dominique, as she is constantly reminded, is not Alexander, so a single slight or betrayal is not enough to launch her on the warpath, but I do suspect a second betrayal, or discovering evidence of everything Veronica has been doing that will bar Dominique's chance of victory, can send her over the edge.

It's even possible that Alessandra's earlier attempt WAS leaking the evidence of Veronica's favoritism to Dominique, who instead took the measured path: convince Juliette, confront Veronica.
I imagine at the moment Alessandra is just nudging, she's likely being careful of having anything traced back to her so a suggestion here, a suggestion there and hopefully the sisters anger reaches a critical boiling point. She's now likely using Pat to ramp shit up. I imagine through her reports to Veronica that were established in chapter 2
Ceretainly possibilities... :unsure: (y)

At this point I would not be surprised if #7 is ANOTHER secret sister (Olivia was revealed in Ep. 4-5, Astrid in 6-7), MAYBE a mother. Either way, it's nobody we've met yet.
I've long suspected there could be yet another sister....or the missing mother of Alessa and Jules (who has not been mentioned, ever).

The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).
Fair points indeed SS.

I just wish we had more time to play with Pod W2.
Yeah...that could have been some fun interaction...we've actually only had one 'training' session....and considering Angelica (T2 romance) is still only a K4...and the board have high hopes for her....she going to have to have a spectacular rise up the ranks in just a few episodes...very much like DomKane does.
 
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The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).

So far we've had a lot of mystery boxes in KG, some of them were obvious from the moment they were set up (Olivia's parentage, Red Mask's identity (I fucking told you guys!)) and we got fairly satisfactory revelation scenes. However, plenty more mysteries remain (7th Board member, who's Luke, the Braclet thing etc) and I hope we will get good answers to those in the next few updates, because these mystery boxes can and will outstay their welcome by the end of, say, ep.10. By that time we should be in the Endgame, actively working towards the goal of our choice, not childishly fumbling in the dark looking for answers.
It's only a problem if Tess has her very own Rian Johnson writing behind her to fuck her writing up. So far her reveals have been good and coherent it's when we start running into dead ends that they'll become problematic.

Wut? it's not "people", just Nadia. And, btw, maybe it's not even a bribe, Vernoica says they've made an agreement... so who knows.

Cynthia is keeping quiet for other reasons, most likely... And no, I don't think it's fear for Kane's safetly, au contraire, I think Cynthia also wants Kane to succeed so a dekock rises to power... remeber, she knows Cole is alive and is about to rescue him, so having Kane rise up within the KG, and then reveal what they did to his dad would basically turn him to their side... it's probably more of a strategic move.
People, person bad word choice changes nothing about what I said. Which is that few people know of the island's existence and 2 (maybe 3 depending on how far along Nadia got), know of its true intention.

Cynthia's only going along with that current plan now because she has no choice since it was sprung on her. I don't imagine she planned to send someone untrained into a gambit on the one-in-a-million chance that he's dominant enough to rise to the top and that he'll believe actual strangers when they reveal what happened. If she's not keeping Callista at arm's length, then she's a big dummy especially since it's obvious ole girls playing both sides. If Kane is on the sub-path, Cynthia's definitely more worried about trying to keep him safe.
 
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someone pls explain how to use sanchomod on this game
Open the SanchoMod zip...copy everything into the 'game' folder (located where the Karlsson's Gambit exe is). Done. (note there is a diff version mod for Ep1-7 and Ep8).
 

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What is the highest K rating the MC can achieve playing up to and through Episode 8?

Max I've been able to achieve is K7 so far for 6 play through's.
 

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What is the highest K rating the MC can achieve playing up to and through Episode 8?

Max I've been able to achieve is K7 so far for 6 play through's.
K9.

There are two ways to obtain K9 at the end of Ep.7 Go back a few pages and you will see both ways listed or follow the walkthrough carefully. You can Pm me if you wish and I'll give you detailed explanations of both variations.
 
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Open the SanchoMod zip...copy everything into the 'game' folder (located where the Karlsson's Gambit exe is). Done. (note there is a diff version mod for Ep1-7 and Ep8).
I keep getting the error that the compressed zip file is invalid or corrupted when i replace the original script file
 

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I keep getting the error that the compressed zip file is invalid or corrupted when i replace the original script file
That's a corrupted/bad download. Redownload the mod zip, ideally through a download manager (i dislike using the browser to dl stuff other than a pdf or image) or use a diff server (so if you used mega, try the workupload link instead).

As an aside, another tip (you may not need)...if using anything other than 7zip, stop and go and dl it. Will give you far less issues than any other zip/archive program.
 
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That's a corrupted/bad download. Redownload the mod zip, ideally through a download manager (i dislike using the browser to dl stuff other than a pdf or image) or use a diff server (so if you used mega, try the workupload link instead).

As an aside, another tip (you may not need)...if using anything other than 7zip, stop and go and dl it. Will give you far less issues than any other zip/archive program.
I retried the download and also used 7zip but im still getting the same error message I even extracted the zip file and tried to copy the mod files to the game file
 
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You had conjectured that Callista gave the DeKocks a hostage, and Board Member #7 has been absent the entire game, but in a way that Yvette is determined to keep an absolute secret, so he/she is clearly not "just busy". During this vulnerable time for the company (as described in the Phoebe-Yvette-Elena scene), this is the worst time for a key decision-maker to be absent, and to allow your enemies inside one of your secret facilities (and the most important one for determining your company's future), yet both cases are the status.

Why? What would possess the Board to invite DS at this time? DS leveraging a hostage would certainly make sense, and KG counters with Kane as their own hostage (as Cole is secret even from the Board), thus DS limits their maneuvers to not jeopardize Kane. Cole, Callista, and Astrid cannot be Board Member #7 as their living status are official secrets from other Board members, neither is any of Phoebe's family, nor the DeKocks, else they would have been identified at the Welcome Party, so #7 must be someone we haven't met yet. A kidnapped Board member is definitely not something Yvette will openly admit has occurred, even in front of the perpetrators (look to Cynthia for example: who never accuses KG of holding Cole prisoner, even though she knows they are, instead arranges to locate/rescue him without their knowledge). It’s possible, one of the motivators for Callista faking her death was to be able to pull off the kidnapping. ... perhaps #7 is even Callista's/Cynthia's source for discovering that Cole was alive and still imprisoned (Nadia should have stumbled across his location before realizing he was alive if hacking was the information source).
Based on the Veronica+Alexander flashback scene, I was under the impression the board does know that Astrid is alive. They just don't know where she is since Veronica wanted to ensure her safety from Alexander. If so, can't rule her out for #7 yet.
 

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Based on the Veronica+Alexander flashback scene, I was under the impression the board does know that Astrid is alive. They just don't know where she is since Veronica wanted to ensure her safety from Alexander. If so, can't rule her out for #7 yet.
You realise that flashback scene was a good few years ago right? Katsumi barely a young teenager in that scene from the size of her...however I'll concede we know no ones age...Veronica and Olivia however are about 24 years old....so present day kitty is obviously younger then she looks.

Since Astrid was introduced I've thought she was the 7th member, however I'm leaning more away from that theory myself now (but still open to it).

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I retried the download and also used 7zip but im still getting the same error message I even extracted the zip file and tried to copy the mod files to the game file
Try downloading it from this post then. I know it works, it's mine. If you still get a corrupt error I'd just try ignoring it then.
 
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You realise that flashback scene was a good few years ago right? Katsumi barely a young teenager in that scene from the size of her...however I'll concede we know no ones age...Ceronica and Olivia however are about 24 years old....so present day kitty is obviously younger then she looks.

Since Astrid was introduced I've thought she was the 7th member, however I'm leaning more away from that theory myself now (but still open to it).


I'm probably having a moment, but who is DS?
Honestly, Katsumi and Veronica looked the same to me as they do presently so I couldn't say how long ago the flashback was. I'll have to replay but agree Astrid could very well not be the 7th member. I mainly just wanted to point out the board seems to know she's alive somewhere so she can't be ruled out completely yet.

DS=Dekock Syndicate
 
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