VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Silver_Crow117]

yea all sub and dom is , comes down to the players sexual kink. Its just connected to negative activities in the game which is why people see it as negative.

Honestly at this point, I hope everyone enjoys this game to their fullest, bout to catch some Zzzs but hopefully we can return to fruitful discussions that don’t involve bashing one side or the other

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Honestly at this point, I hope everyone enjoys this game to their fullest, bout to catch some Zzzs but hopefully we can return to fruitful discussions that don’t involve bashing one side or the other

Indeed, it's probably my fault for going in on the Callista business, so I shall put such attacks on pause until at least the next update so we can get back to speculation. This way, Dom and sub players can work together to get the entire story.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

It seems like people here are going to complete the story before actual release

Never underestimate the power of internet autism.

 

[Stan5851]

That's correct, but technically Kane is still a slave as long as he's classified K, regardless of which path he takes.

Yeah, the only difference is that on the Dom route it is exactly "technically", and in fact it is pure formality (we drive Bugatti Veyron, live in luxurious apartments, have personal slave girls, sexual female assistants and have fucked all the Karlsson sisters, not to mention a significant part of the JoyFacility staff. Whereas in the case of the sub route it is like a true slavery where no one asks the slave's opinion and sadistic bitches abuse and humiliate them as they please.

But yea sub or dom should have no effect on canon

Tess realized what a minefield she was stepping into, so like a smart person, decided to make two different canon endings (In addition to the "usual" 15 endings) - one for the Dom route and one for the Sub.

 

[Maviarab]

Mistress Tess — Today at 10:01

Just doing little updates here at times -- Two people have successfully tested the entire sub path and given me their list of little things. They are not sub players at all so their advice is much more about basic flow, renders, dialogue, etc. As I tweak those, I will be shifting to what I consider "true" sub players to look at it next (maybe 2-3 people) so I am kind of about 90 percent done with major editing on this side. The dom path content is almost done, I am working on the very last scene and will start editing there when done. On the sub side -- for over 2,100 images it's about 100 renders to correct which is near my typical (5%) or so. Music is not there yet, and not a priority yet until I catch the dom path up to a similar state. (this is the last thing I add for final testing to get vibe checks, etc.)

The process for editing is typically for me --> 1) look for major dialogue and render errors on a first pass (just really obvious at first glance 2) fix/tweak those as I can 3) heavy testing of branches and flags and that they are all working (this is more time consuming as I have to basically use a console shift command to track variables as I go and see if they add/subtract create flags, etc. 4) play test multiple saves from prior update and see if they seem to work well and checking dialogue/renders again 5) let a few others test at this point 6) I go back and re-test with all changes and play as much as possible 7) start adding music last) extras like titles/outros (usually done after Test Version)

It is likely I will not put in 1 scene for the sub path and 1-2 scenes for the dom path in the initial Test Version. It will depend on time (last update I only had I think 1 scene from each side out) but mostly I want to get a lot of feedback from other stuff to ponder how I want to tweak these scenes since they are usually the last ones and important to me. But we'll see.

I anticipate sometime this week I will announce (middle of next week technically) I am done with the dom path content rough draft and I will likely be almost done with sub editing entirely near the same time. That will leave heavy dom path editing left. So hopefully I can in the near future announce an estimated release date for the Test Version 0.8.2

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Mistress Tess — Today at 10:01

Just doing little updates here at times -- Two people have successfully tested the entire sub path and given me their list of little things. They are not sub players at all so their advice is much more about basic flow, renders, dialogue, etc. As I tweak those, I will be shifting to what I consider "true" sub players to look at it next (maybe 2-3 people) so I am kind of about 90 percent done with major editing on this side. The dom path content is almost done, I am working on the very last scene and will start editing there when done. On the sub side -- for over 2,100 images it's about 100 renders to correct which is near my typical (5%) or so. Music is not there yet, and not a priority yet until I catch the dom path up to a similar state. (this is the last thing I add for final testing to get vibe checks, etc.)

The process for editing is typically for me --> 1) look for major dialogue and render errors on a first pass (just really obvious at first glance 2) fix/tweak those as I can 3) heavy testing of branches and flags and that they are all working (this is more time consuming as I have to basically use a console shift command to track variables as I go and see if they add/subtract create flags, etc. 4) play test multiple saves from prior update and see if they seem to work well and checking dialogue/renders again 5) let a few others test at this point 6) I go back and re-test with all changes and play as much as possible 7) start adding music last) extras like titles/outros (usually done after Test Version)

It is likely I will not put in 1 scene for the sub path and 1-2 scenes for the dom path in the initial Test Version. It will depend on time (last update I only had I think 1 scene from each side out) but mostly I want to get a lot of feedback from other stuff to ponder how I want to tweak these scenes since they are usually the last ones and important to me. But we'll see.

I anticipate sometime this week I will announce (middle of next week technically) I am done with the dom path content rough draft and I will likely be almost done with sub editing entirely near the same time. That will leave heavy dom path editing left. So hopefully I can in the near future announce an estimated release date for the Test Version 0.8.2

Thank you for the beautiful update Mav for that, he’s this

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[Maviarab]

That’s cool and all dom players but..

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Sam’s ass is growing on me

Sam's ass is a work of ass...I mean art I've always loved Sam from her first appearance. Crazy as hell...absolute sadistic lunatic...but I still love her. That train scene with Scarlet...damn....was long awaited! All I need to die happy now is a Sam/Pat threesome with them both begging...ugghh...*shudders*

That's correct, but technically Kane is still a slave as long as he's classified K, regardless of which path he takes.

Correct.

Yeah, the only difference is that on the Dom route it is exactly "technically", and in fact it is pure formality (we drive Bugatti Veyron, live in luxurious apartments, have personal slave girls, sexual female assistants and have fucked all the Karlsson sisters, not to mention a significant part of the JoyFacility staff. Whereas in the case of the sub route it is like a true slavery where no one asks the slave's opinion and sadistic bitches abuse and humiliate them as they please.

Good point for sure.

(Apologies for double post)

 

[Stan5851]

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As I tweak those, I will be shifting to what I consider "true" sub players to look at it next (maybe 2-3 people) so I am kind of about 90 percent done with major editing on this side.

Something tells me it's already happening and we definitely know the name of one of these mysterious "true" sub player... who has managed to grace us with new renders from pt2 lately.

 

[Maviarab]

Something tells me it's already happening and we definitely know the name of one of these mysterious "true" sub player... who has managed to grace us with new renders from pt2 lately.
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Certainly possible aye....certainly possible...I'm sure he couldn't possibly comment though

 

[Stan5851]

Certainly possible aye....certainly possible...I'm sure he couldn't possibly comment though

Definitely, because he'll be too busy.

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[PickerLewd]

Thank you for the beautiful update Mav for that, he’s this

1 single cookie 440 calories? .

Something tells me it's already happening and we definitely know the name of one of these mysterious "true" sub player... who has managed to grace us with new renders from pt2 lately.

Maybe the frog and the caged slave at the end of Chapter 7 are in that group as well .

 

[Stan5851]

Maybe the frog and the caged slave at the end of Chapter 7 are in that group as well .

Mb, but these guys look very dim against our guy's bright silver luster.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

1 single cookie 440 calories? .

Yes, American food = Fluffy, overweight Lmaoo

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Despite her desire for raw meat, Cynthia's a pretty hot older woman. Kane has good genes

 

[Stan5851]

I tried once again to expand the horizons of perception and decided through Sancho-gallery to watch the scene of the secret sub route (Alessandra + Alice + Kane)...OFC, I watched the scene to the end, partially rewinding the dialog, but throughout the scene I did not leave the feeling of deep disgust, and Alessandra I already mentally executed and quartered. Good thing I had an antidote at hand, I rewatched the juicy Dom scene with Alessa, Celeste, KaneDom and cuckold Todd and immediately felt better... Anyway, I realized once again that my perception of kinks stubbornly refuses to expand into femdom ...when it's directed at Kane and not at the secondary characters who we're not controlling in any way...So I tried, but I lost.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't think we've discussed this here before, but not too long ago Miss Tess added a little “spoonful of tar to the honey barrel”. It's about the character traits of our lovely Angelica. Given that Tess has taken the possible romance with Angelica to a deeper level than originally planned, the possible consequences could, in theory, be far more significant than if Angelica had remained on the same level of “simple shallow affair with the staff”.

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One can only hope that our red-haired Amazon doesn't try to play a double game and seek immediate gain by acting against KaneDom interests.

 

[Maviarab]

[/SPOILER]One can only hope that our red-haired Amazon doesn't try to play a double game and seek immediate gain by acting against KaneDom interests.

Schemer and surivor...she knows which side her bread is buttered on (on the dom path)...she knows we are her ticket upwards and to safety.

She is still only listed as a T2 romance though iirc yes? I've not heard anything further regarding promoting her more.

 

[PickerLewd]

One can only hope that our red-haired Amazon doesn't try to play a double game and seek immediate gain by acting against KaneDom interests.

They can stab you in the night while you sleep, they are that dangerous! .

 

[PickerLewd]

Schemer and surivor...she knows which side her bread is buttered on (on the dom path)...she knows we are her ticket upwards and to safety.

You say she's doomed if Kane is a sub?

I remember almost nothing about her in the last part of the K4 path, it's mandatory that I replay many parts before the update comes out .

 

[Maviarab]

You say she's doomed if Kane is a sub?

I remember almost nothing about her in the last part of the K4 path, it's mandatory that I replay many parts before the update comes out .

Oh no...as is shown in Ep8 Pt1, on the KaneSub path, Angelica does what she needs to do to survive and gain favor....including shooting people with Charlotte.... On that note, she will also actively be 'hunting' with Charlotte in the gameshow....

 

[motseer]

I tried once again to expand the horizons of perception and decided through Sancho-gallery to watch the scene of the secret sub route (Alessandra + Alice + Kane)...OFC, I watched the scene to the end, partially rewinding the dialog, but throughout the scene I did not leave the feeling of deep disgust, and Alessandra I already mentally executed and quartered. Good thing I had an antidote at hand, I rewatched the juicy Dom scene with Alessa, Celeste, KaneDom and cuckold Todd and immediately felt better... Anyway, I realized once again that my perception of kinks stubbornly refuses to expand into femdom ...when it's directed at Kane and not at the secondary characters who we're not controlling in any way...So I tried, but I lost.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't think we've discussed this here before, but not too long ago Miss Tess added a little “spoonful of tar to the honey barrel”. It's about the character traits of our lovely Angelica. Given that Tess has taken the possible romance with Angelica to a deeper level than originally planned, the possible consequences could, in theory, be far more significant than if Angelica had remained on the same level of “simple shallow affair with the staff”.

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One can only hope that our red-haired Amazon doesn't try to play a double game and seek immediate gain by acting against KaneDom interests.

You're a better man than I, Stan, for even trying... I guess. The only woman who would ever dominate me (IRL or fantasy) would have to be a necromancer. I really hope you are correct about Angelica. I don't mind that she plays her cards close to her chest but, I'm hoping that she can be loyal when that loyalty goes both ways. I was quite taken with her looks, personality and intelligence almost immediately in the story. She has quickly moved up to my #2 girl overall and, if circumstances were different or changed, I could see her challenging Dominique for #1. But, hey, that's just me and I freely admit I have a thing for feisty redheads...