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Yeah...you don't want edpts either. (well...unless you want to head down that specific path I suppose heh...but ideally you want those low too. For record, I believe those are Elena Dom Points).
Those are the only two point variables (that I'm aware of...currently) that more = bad (if going good/dom route).
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By the way, I tried to do a little research. edpts are only increasing, but they are not analyzed anywhere. there is no line in the script containing "if edpts". What is this? an oversight by a developer who decided to clumsily complete a boring project without analyzing what had been accomplished?
I'll try to gain these points for the first time.
I'll see how this affects the future of the MC.
I'm clear about z points. I won’t collect them in the next playthrough (I’ll try not to exceed 3).
It’s still not 100% clear about e dom points. thanks nonetheless. I'll be careful with these points (just in case).
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I believe they will be used in the next chapter.
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Why add this?
And as maviarab said, the edpts variable is likely to come into play next update.
I'll disagree with there earlier guess that they are Elena Dom Points though. There is another variable introduced in the .7 update called espts, and they appear roughly as frequenlty as edpts. Based on this, my guess is they will be used for your next evaluation and would stand for evaulation dominant points and evaluation submissive points respectively.
No, "oversight" is not a thing Tess does, but what she has done is put in stats whose purpose remain hidden until a later episode, and there's still some yet to be revealed, like the "Gambit" score has yet to affect anything, and the first possible point was all the way back in Ep 2.
Edpts currently is not available on every playthrough, (I just changed my strategy from full Dom Good to Dom Mix (Good with evil decisions, and mostly evil Olivia), so I went through and made my own walkthrough to track if this ends up with bad results, and my path wasn't even offered edpts). As far as this community can tell, edpts is BAD for Dom/High Rank players. What these do, or how much do you need min/max for your desired outcome is unknown, but thus far 0 Slave in prison and 0 zpts during evaluation have been necessary for max promotion, so we assume the same applies.
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yes, i not see "Completed" flag in the tag list - this means i must be wrons about "v0.7 Final" what i considered as a final of a project... oops haha =)
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The game is far from complete. A total of 12 episodes are planned.
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Wait... only 12? I think we are so far from the end. There have to be some time jumps for this to make better sense.
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You can think of "dormant" variables as Chekhov's guns that are sure to go off at the right moment.
As for the purpose of espts and edpts, the creator of the SanchoМod writes the following:
Of course, Sancho could be wrong too, but something tells me he's right. At least, there is logic in it, if we remember that for Kane the subway scene is nothing more than another deep test of personality and self-control, and the author of this test is Elena (she tells us that you don't have to go anywhere, but MC Dom can (and should) do things his way, but at the same time "not go crazy".
Again, we shouldn't forget that Elena is seriously considering a love union between Kane Dom and Olivia (and if you notice, Kane and Olivia's relationship is going in that direction) for the very last time in the finale of ep7. But she needs to make sure that Kane lives up to her (and not only her) expectations. So I think the edpts variable (Elena Dom points) is the direct analog of z-scores.
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Well, that's what Tess wrote here. And given the fact that the game's story has been written a long time ago, I can hardly doubt her assessment. Yeah, I would have liked more episodes too, but what is, is.
On the other hand, ep8 will have 2 parts (and someone wrote that it will have 3) and judging by the fact that Tess has changed her approach to releasing updates (update splitting), then 9-12 eps can also have 2 parts at least. So hopefully there should be enough interesting content and the whole story will be told.
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It's pretty much already explained. In exchange for Alexander not chasing her, he had Callista adopt Olivia. Likely cuz he wanted at least one of his children to be influenced by her.
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sorry it must be my overlook... and thanks you for explaining this thing.
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Many VN's release a beta version first, then maybe some bug fixes version then a 'final' chapter version. Don't worry, this has a looonnng way to go yet.
Your other question has been answered, though in the story, it's a little convulated and messy so can see why you missed why Olivia was sent with Callisto.
Stan is also spot on with his post regarding Elena, she is pushing her own agenda and is constantly evaluating us (I believe the scene in the library with the fireplace happens regardless of dom/sub path as an example). Elena a wise old lady, very smart and highly influential still within the organisation.
As for variables and points, again as has been said by others, there are a LOT of them...that have no function yet but will come into play at some point (such as gambit points and princesseyes)
Any other questions feel free to ask. Good for prompting discussion of topics, keeps the thread busy and gives us stuff to mull over that currently we can only guess at.
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I'm pretty sure (someone can and will correct me if I'm wrong) that princesseyes is a measure of Kane's favor with Olivia. Also, I think you have the edp and eds thing correct. (Elena Dom Points and Elena Sub Points) I think I remember getting them during the conversation with Elena and Katsumi in her quarters. (Again, correct me if I'm wrong - it's been a while) I don't remember which is which. i.e. edp = Elena dominates Kane or vice versa
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I would say you are correct and spot on with those assumptions. However, they are for now assumptions but the princesseyes one I think is a pretty strong indicator of what exactly they do (even the official walkthrough pdf makes mention of how they are interpreted). I think those along with the sispoints will be key eventually...if going for that finish, we need to be as tight with Olivia as possible. sispoints is how we are as a unified team...p'eyes is how she sees us as a romantic interest. However, as we know, Olivia already knows we're not her brother and has already told us...she would pick us to save in the temple scene, so to me Olivia was already thinking about this possibility, given she obviously has far more information and knowledge than anyone thinks or believes...again, master actress playing her part).
As for the edpts...yup that's my guessing also...you either influence Elena or she bosses you around (not the first time she's tried hehe). Either way, for Elena (to my mind), either/or works...her plan is KaneVia to run the company together....this can be done as MC dom or sub...matters little to her ultimately in the grand scheme of things...but how we interact with Elena makes for interesting gameplay I guess depending on how/what path you like from your own personal perspective.
Now that I think about it, really the only points that have garnered results [on the Dom path] are Good/Evil (though you can be Good on points, but make key decisions to unlock Evil content/tags), SisGood/Evil, Slave, [Karlsson]-meet, Cassandra (Olivia sections), Delilah, Chanel (potentially), Kane-Olivia relationship, and maybe Katsumi? So far none of the Karlssons', Elena's, Junko's, Kiyomi's, or Raven's points have yet to come into a check. Even Dom/Sub points don't seem to have an affect yet, rather individual choices and rank determine Dom/Sub playthroughs. It seems that the "opinion" points will come up towards the end, as there are already variables in the game that indicate there will be warring factions, and we'll need allies once the explosion comes (e.g. "piggy-ally=True/False", needing "Nurse=Alive" to keep all paths open).
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Hmmm... the choices you make in the hot tub scene with Katsumi, Chanel, and Junko definitely have an impact on your relationship with Junko and getting a sponsorship with Dominique. Your relationship with Katsumi is also affected. Those are just the one's I remember.
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Looks like in the coming updates we’ll need to choose who to side with factions and individual!… Veronica is confirmed to have a sub path sponsorship, along with Olivia (if you didn’t side with Juliette and or Dominique… and maybe we can side with the decocks in the future who knows hahaha
