VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Crimsonfiend76]

Just looking for another game and I thought I would say hello briefly. Never to spoil, but for harem (this is possible in about four iterations I think) you have to kind of assume some women wouldn't match well with each other. For example, it might be difficult to get both Juliette and Dominique to cooperate that way, but it might be much easier for Kiyomi and Dominique. Junko might be possible as a pure love interest/romance, but less happy about a harem given her personality, so one might have to make her a sub to another woman on top, etc. So it just depends! And some women might only accept a male relationship, others only female, and another group that is way more open to a lot of different possibilities.

Anyway, have a great week all!

Thanks for the insight and a very interesting and fun-thought provoking game! Given the level of complexity in the choices/paths I look forward to trying for different outcomes to see how they play out! That said, it's gonna be quite the challenge to keep everything organized for which path is which and who to trust/pursue and who to be careful of/avoid or be on guard around.

I do like the added level of realism where not every girl is going to automatically align herself with the MC's wants and desires, but some can be malleable to an extent. Though, that adds the challenge of figuring out who and under what conditions are they willing to tie themselves to Kane. While I do enjoy my share of harem/mini-harem or polyamorous relationship games, I also enjoy when its just one LI. But, if given the option, I tend to play for some kind of limited harem/throuple paths, so the challenge here is seeing which LI can get along with Kane, and each other. So while I like Junko, she's not exactly a deal-breaker for me if she's unwilling to enter in a poly-relationship with Kane. I'd have to say right now, only Olivia or Dominique would be the only LI I would consider entering in a pure love/romantic path with.

When I first looked at Karlsson's Gambit I thought I wouldn't like it as I'm not usually into BDSM, but something picked my interest and I always think about broadening my horizons so I tried it. What a surprise it was. Much better than I could have ever expected and a whole experience on top of that. It became probably my favorite at the moment. So thanks for that TessSadist!
About what you said... I really like Junko but for me Dominique comes first so, as I'm still trying to find enough time to immerse myself in the latest update, I thought Junko was already a sub to Dominique and that wouldn't be a problem for the harem path, or would it? Unless of course something happens in this version... I'm about to see.

Have yourself a great week too!

I agree and had a similar experience myself when I finally decided to play after initially avoiding the game out of hesitance for the tags listed on the OP and premise listed. I am curious though and do agree if Junko is already a sub to Dominique, who while not as cruel or sadistic as her sisters, would she eventually regard Kane as her new master alongside her mistress and enthusiastically serve him in whatever form of love and loyalty that would resemble?

I guess that's less of what I had imagined as a true harem/poly relationship and hypothetically speaking, more like just being romantically tied to Dominique while conveniently enjoying servants and employees like Junko/Chanel/Patricia and Kiyomi etc., but in a non-cruel or sadistic manner. So the real question then is whether its possible to have multiple-romantic type relationships with more than one woman with Kane and each other in a true poly-relationship, or are at least willing to share Kane romantically while not entering in a relationship themselves with the other LIs?

 

[dmmt]

Just looking for another game and I thought I would say hello briefly.

Anyway, have a great week all!

Oh it is clearly implied, that putting certain of the women together, is like throwing gasoline on a fire. lol You have written it exceptionally well, and again, the artwork is absolutely second to none. PLEASE teach other Dev's how to do this! (After you finish Karlsson's Gambit of course. lol)

Never thought a femdom game would interest me at all, let alone excite me. And frankly, playing the sub role is not something I've done IRL or in the game for that matter. Well, not beyond what submissions Kane HAS to make, in order to stay afloat and increase his overall "powerbase". In short...damn nice work TessSadist. Sincerely, damn.nice.work.

 

[TessSadist]

When I first looked at Karlsson's Gambit I thought I wouldn't like it as I'm not usually into BDSM, but something picked my interest and I always think about broadening my horizons so I tried it. What a surprise it was. Much better than I could have ever expected and a whole experience on top of that. It became probably my favorite at the moment. So thanks for that TessSadist!
About what you said... I really like Junko but for me Dominique comes first so, as I'm still trying to find enough time to immerse myself in the latest update, I thought Junko was already a sub to Dominique and that wouldn't be a problem for the harem path, or would it? Unless of course something happens in this version... I'm about to see.

Have yourself a great week too!

Thank you so much for the kind words, and without being too specific, it's fair to say that it would be hard for Junko and Dominique to be EQUAL in status in a harem. A much easier path of less resistance might be for example a romance with Dominique with Junko (and perhaps others) as lovers/servants/subs/slaves (depending how far one might go) but to be honest, I have only for sure decided about 7-8 specific possibilities and am open dependent on how the characters themselves seem to progress as I move forward.

 

[TessSadist]

Thanks for the insight and a very interesting and fun-thought provoking game! Given the level of complexity in the choices/paths I look forward to trying for different outcomes to see how they play out! That said, it's gonna be quite the challenge to keep everything organized for which path is which and who to trust/pursue and who to be careful of/avoid or be on guard around.

I do like the added level of realism where not every girl is going to automatically align herself with the MC's wants and desires, but some can be malleable to an extent. Though, that adds the challenge of figuring out who and under what conditions are they willing to tie themselves to Kane. While I do enjoy my share of harem/mini-harem or polyamorous relationship games, I also enjoy when its just one LI. But, if given the option, I tend to play for some kind of limited harem/throuple paths, so the challenge here is seeing which LI can get along with Kane, and each other. So while I like Junko, she's not exactly a deal-breaker for me if she's unwilling to enter in a poly-relationship with Kane. I'd have to say right now, only Olivia or Dominique would be the only LI I would consider entering in a pure love/romantic path with.


I agree and had a similar experience myself when I finally decided to play after initially avoiding the game out of hesitance for the tags listed on the OP and premise listed. I am curious though and do agree if Junko is already a sub to Dominique, who while not as cruel or sadistic as her sisters, would she eventually regard Kane as her new master alongside her mistress and enthusiastically serve him in whatever form of love and loyalty that would resemble?

I guess that's less of what I had imagined as a true harem/poly relationship and hypothetically speaking, more like just being romantically tied to Dominique while conveniently enjoying servants and employees like Junko/Chanel/Patricia and Kiyomi etc., but in a non-cruel or sadistic manner. So the real question then is whether its possible to have multiple-romantic type relationships with more than one woman with Kane and each other in a true poly-relationship, or are at least willing to share Kane romantically while not entering in a relationship themselves with the other LIs?

Thank you so much for the nice comments, and as I kind of said in last message, it's much more realistic to think that Junko would be likely to be serving Dominique and Kane instead of true equal partners I guess? It's probably somewhat logical to assume that certain women used to getting their way might have issues sharing a man, but maybe not as much if those women are "beneath" her in a larger context and she's open to women, etc. But other women might be much more open to a lot more. So to be honest about one specific context, you are unlikely to see Dominique Karlsson serving as a sub under Junko and Kane as a couple for example. But the reverse? I think the story is already foreshadowing some possibilities.

Also keep in mind I have always said some characters are more malleable than others and that comes into play too. I can also neither confirm or deny any wink emojis but I think people can figure out enough for themselves!

 

[TessSadist]

Oh it is clearly implied, that putting certain of the women together, is like throwing gasoline on a fire. lol You have written it exceptionally well, and again, the artwork is absolutely second to none. PLEASE teach other Dev's how to do this! (After you finish Karlsson's Gambit of course. lol)

Never thought a femdom game would interest me at all, let alone excite me. And frankly, playing the sub role is not something I've done IRL or in the game for that matter. Well, not beyond what submissions Kane HAS to make, in order to stay afloat and increase his overall "powerbase". In short...damn nice work TessSadist. Sincerely, damn.nice.work.

Thank you so much! And to be honest, I think a lot of people forget that I am actually a dominant personality, as most femdom related games seem to be written more often by subs? So maybe that comes through a little differently overall. To be honest, my biggest problem still to this day is reminding myself about point of view issues for art! Meaning, that I always want to do renders from an example below (first image here from Patreon monthly art non-canon scenarios) This image is Kiyomi looking down at Kane while being fondled by Alessandra (her hands are the inner ones wrapping around from behind)(btw, I'm really not into piss either as I'm kind of a clean freak, but I like the humiliation aspect of it a little I guess, haha!) and I often have to force myself to use the below angle too. Even now I often go back redo 1 or more images to show that angle because it's not natural for me. (I personally like the above angle a billion times more because it's from my perspective and I get for the sub the below image is from THEIR perspective)
And just throwing one more for fun haha!

 

[TessSadist]

Aside from mature women-milfs/cougars, I've got a particular weakness for redheads, so it goes without saying if I could dominate and assure the absolute loyalty of Delilah and Veronica, I would definitely be interested in them on top of some Elena & Phoebe love.

I will say for this specific example there is a very unique ending involving both of them that is very difficult to get, but possible. It is difficult because Delilah and Veronica can only be possible if another condition is achieved (very difficult to get) involving The Karlsson Group and The DeKock Syndicate as entities.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

Do both Kane and Olivia (evil/dom) have to pick the same sponsor/mentor? Will I screw things up like Kane picking Juliette and Olivia picking Elena?

Forgive me I got names wrong, I suck at them...

 

[TessSadist]

Do both Kane and Olivia (evil/dom) have to pick the same sponsor/mentor? Will I screw things up like Kane picking Juliette and Olivia picking Elena?

Forgive me I got names wrong, I suck at them...

I'm not sure what you mean by "screw up" so hard to answer precisely. But I will guess and think you mean an evil ending with a specific pairing I can only wink at right now. In short, no.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

I'm not sure what you mean by "screw up" so hard to answer precisely. But I will guess and think you mean an evil ending with a specific pairing I can only wink at right now. In short, no.

Perfect. Thank you

 

[DarkFencer1]

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Excellent the "crocs" detail, to add even more humiliation.

 

[Vleder]

It's fair to say that it would be hard for Junko and Dominique to be EQUAL in status in a harem. A much easier path of less resistance might be for example a romance with Dominique with Junko (and perhaps others) as lovers/servants/subs/slaves

it's much more realistic to think that Junko would be likely to be serving Dominique and Kane instead of true equal partners I guess? It's probably somewhat logical to assume that certain women used to getting their way might have issues sharing a man, but maybe not as much if those women are "beneath" her

You are absolutely right, of course. Very few would equal Dominique and fewer in a functional harem and, thinking back, I was still seeing Junko in a sub position...

And to be honest, I think a lot of people forget that I am actually a dominant personality, as most femdom related games seem to be written more often by subs? So maybe that comes through a little differently overall. To be honest, my biggest problem still to this day is reminding myself about point of view issues for art!

And right again! Perhaps your perspective as an author and the personality infused in the different characters was one of the main reasons that made connect so well with Karlsson's Gambit...
About the art, I love it!
Thanks for the insight.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

Thank you so much for the nice comments, and as I kind of said in last message, it's much more realistic to think that Junko would be likely to be serving Dominique and Kane instead of true equal partners I guess? It's probably somewhat logical to assume that certain women used to getting their way might have issues sharing a man, but maybe not as much if those women are "beneath" her in a larger context and she's open to women, etc. But other women might be much more open to a lot more. So to be honest about one specific context, you are unlikely to see Dominique Karlsson serving as a sub under Junko and Kane as a couple for example. But the reverse? I think the story is already foreshadowing some possibilities.

Also keep in mind I have always said some characters are more malleable than others and that comes into play too. I can also neither confirm or deny any wink emojis but I think people can figure out enough for themselves!

Hmm....so hypothetically speaking, or if you prefer via using the spoiler tag, is the harem path you have in mind much closer to pursuing a pure romance path with one character, while keeping up appearances and enjoying playing with some of the other slaves/servants/employees of a lesser rank, or will there be a path or paths avaiable for multiple simultaneous romantic or polyamorous relationships with women at the same power-dynamic level? Say for example pursuing an Olivia+Kane+Elena relationship or Dominique+Veronica+Kane arrangement?

Given the personalities of these powerful and dominant women, they may not be completely used to the idea of sharing a romantic lover as opposed to a slave/servant there to service them and their whims, but for those LI capable of reciprocating Kane's romantic affections, are there any plans to have a mini-harem or throuple path with certain women who get along and are compatible?

I will say for this specific example there is a very unique ending involving both of them that is very difficult to get, but possible. It is difficult because Delilah and Veronica can only be possible if another condition is achieved (very difficult to get) involving The Karlsson Group and The DeKock Syndicate as entities.

Ok , consider my interest officially piqued! I have to find and make this path a possible play through for me after my canon run! We're definitely gonna need a walkthrough for this at some point otherwise I'm gonna be obsessed seeing this play out, lol.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Id imagine that either a merger happens or one gains power over the other through blackmail or other means.

Tess over hear enticing her viewers this deep into the game with juicy bread crumbs. With most games at this point, people are demanding certain people get fucked already, but here most are looking forward to the twists and how the stories play out, well done.

 

[Kxca]

Was replaying the game and saw Dominique mention something called the "Great Collapse." Has this ever been explained as to what it was? And on the same note, Tess, how do you envision the world outside the island- like do governments exist, is the society as a whole femdom-oriented or it is more of a Karlsson company culture and other such details?

 

[Choooogatta]

Was replaying the game and saw Dominique mention something called the "Great Collapse." Has this ever been explained as to what it was? And on the same note, Tess, how do you envision the world outside the island- like do governments exist, is the society as a whole femdom-oriented or it is more of a Karlsson company culture and other such details?

Short answer is I think the only info we have is access to arable land makes you king and Karlsson Corporation is a Global power akin to what the US, China and Russia used to be.

Spoiler: Just spoilered for length

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[Spfjolietjake]

I hope Olivia and Kane can have a nice little wholesome field trip like the girls playing police was (i.e. evil and sexy af)...

 

[Innocience]

I think that's a good theory. One small addition, we know where the island is - Olivia's been told as much. She tells Kane on the Sub route. It's Saint Helena.

 

[TessSadist]

Err just for those bored as I sit and sit myself (I am actually flying home soon) some key locations: (I was choosing between this region of the world and Asia and picked the former - I have been to most of these locations personally so very easy for me to imagine it better for whatever reason) Not important at all for most people I think but for me very relevant how I imagine everything especially as I was considering a different game in this universe at first: (taking place about 22 years after this story with Kane's child and canon ending/partner from KG background story which was not intended as game at first at all)

St Helena (Jonathan the tortoise/Napoleon) - The Joy Facility (majority of game here)

Tristan da Cunha (a very isolated island) - Another area of interest (relevant later), owned by The Karlsson Group

Inaccessible Island - secret research facility - possibly relevant with certain choices most will not see it naturally it is incredibly difficult to find by design in game with choices very early on and still ongoing (I have not even included hints with prior choices in WTs at all, only someone looking at code might figure out a little at the very end when it's out) (one of "secret" endings I have planned so not desired for everyone actually as it's not a normal ending at all)

Gough Island - DeKock Syndicate owned island - negotiated with Karlsson Group in dispute with Tristan da Cunha/St Helena (Karlsson negotiated to own) and Gough/Ascension Island (DeKock owned)

City of Windhoek, former country of Namibia - Corporate HQ of The Karlsson Group - territory stretches mostly south to Cape Town along the western coast of Africa. Cape Town has a special luxury suburb area within Cape Town called Callista's Hill (yes, named after Alexander's desire incorporating Table Mountain and part of coast below) home to most elite of the company, etc.

City of Johannesburg, former country of South Africa - Corporate HQ of The DeKock Syndicate - region is south/east (to East London, South Africa and east to small area called Tofo Beach, formerly Mozambique so territory most of east coast of South Africa and coast of Mozambique)

Former country of Botswana - collection of independent trade groups/survivors and more isolated pockets - home of Claudia/Celeste/Phoebe and some civilization but much less organized and more rural/farming/etc. One new city built in area after collapse called New Paris (a group of French survivors/politicians/military types early fleeing south founded the city and it grew over time) which is only major city in area (Doctor Chastain is also from there originally)

Most land north of this in Africa is mostly uninhabited due to global conditions but very tough survivors here and there likely survive through it all although not explored by game entities/players

Tension area - valuable land along south coast of South Africa - Karlsson Group and DeKock Syndicate both desire it.

I might try and explain Great Collapse in more detail but if I do it would be very specifically in a "book" or something in game like a database accessible with a menu/UI or something not in main dialogue that someone could read at their leisure or ignore entirely as it's not central for the sex scenes, haha!

Just random crap that goes in my head to flesh out lore/background as it helps me write better fleshed out ideas, etc. Probably not necessary at all, but just do it anyway!

(random typing so this might be a disorganized or wrong from my head -- not the best screen to see actually)

 

[Kxca]

Err just for those bored as I sit and sit myself (I am actually flying home soon) some key locations: (I was choosing between this region of the world and Asia and picked the former - I have been to most of these locations personally so very easy for me to imagine it better for whatever reason) Not important at all for most people I think but for me very relevant how I imagine everything especially as I was considering a different game in this universe at first: (taking place about 22 years after this story with Kane's child and canon ending/partner from KG background story which was not intended as game at first at all)

St Helena (Jonathan the tortoise/Napoleon) - The Joy Facility (majority of game here)

Tristan da Cunha (a very isolated island) - Another area of interest (relevant later), owned by The Karlsson Group

Inaccessible Island - secret research facility - possibly relevant with certain choices most will not see it naturally it is incredibly difficult to find by design in game with choices very early on and still ongoing (I have not even included hints with prior choices in WTs at all, only someone looking at code might figure out a little at the very end when it's out) (one of "secret" endings I have planned so not desired for everyone actually as it's not a normal ending at all)

Gough Island - DeKock Syndicate owned island - negotiated with Karlsson Group in dispute with Tristan da Cunha/St Helena (Karlsson negotiated to own) and Gough/Ascension Island (DeKock owned)

City of Windhoek, former country of Namibia - Corporate HQ of The Karlsson Group - territory stretches mostly south to Cape Town along the western coast of Africa. Cape Town has a special luxury suburb area within Cape Town called Callista's Hill (yes, named after Alexander's desire incorporating Table Mountain and part of coast below) home to most elite of the company, etc.

City of Johannesburg, former country of South Africa - Corporate HQ of The DeKock Syndicate - region is south/east (to East London, South Africa and east to small area called Tofo Beach, formerly Mozambique so territory most of east coast of South Africa and coast of Mozambique)

Former country of Botswana - collection of independent trade groups/survivors and more isolated pockets - home of Claudia/Celeste/Phoebe and some civilization but much less organized and more rural/farming/etc. One new city built in area after collapse called New Paris (a group of French survivors/politicians/military types early fleeing south founded the city and it grew over time) which is only major city in area (Doctor Chastain is also from there originally)

Most land north of this in Africa is mostly uninhabited due to global conditions but very tough survivors here and there likely survive through it all although not explored by game entities/players

Tension area - valuable land along south coast of South Africa - Karlsson Group and DeKock Syndicate both desire it.

I might try and explain Great Collapse in more detail but if I do it would be very specifically in a "book" or something in game like a database accessible with a menu/UI or something not in main dialogue that someone could read at their leisure or ignore entirely as it's not central for the sex scenes, haha!

Just random crap that goes in my head to flesh out lore/background as it helps me write better fleshed out ideas, etc. Probably not necessary at all, but just do it anyway!

(random typing so this might be a disorganized or wrong from my head -- not the best screen to see actually)

Thank you for the detailed answer. Probably the majority of players do not care about such details but I have the bad habit of digging into the lore of the games I love( read the Witcher saga after playing Witcher 3, the Metro books, and so on). Karlsson's Gambit is a real gem of a game and one of the very few on this site that makes me think even after closing the game. You have really done a fantastic job!!

 

[G27111]

So im at K7 at the end of the update doing the junko/dominique path and being good not evil, is there any way you can get K8 on that path by that time? I see something like you needed +3 chanel or -3z things but there was no way on the mod that said -z and to even get the junko path you have to turn down chanel..