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kinkyshin

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Well, I wouldn't worry too much about saves. It's not like we had sex with Kiyomi anyway, so there's nothing to break. Same goes for Angelica. We don't yet know how much Tess will shorten her arc and what aspects of it, but either way, we just haven't had any sex scenes with her yet.

So I'm not even sure if this even touches on canceling any flags or variables..Anyway, we'll see what it will be.Maybe we're getting ourselves overly worked up and it won't end up being as bad as we imagined.
Yea, tbh if all Tess really said was that Angelica's content has been 'changed' and that 'extensive branches will be pruned'. It doesn't even mean the two things were related at all lol and we've all been stressing for no reason.

I'm actually wondering now if maybe that the reason Kiyomi's romance content with Kane has been removed... was so that it could be given to Angelica.

Think about it, Angelica can fulfil the same role as Kiyomi anyways. According to someone (I think the guy with the Elden Ring signature) Tess had hyped up the romance with Kiyomi saying that it was supposed to come at the perfect time... Maybe that's consoling Kane and/or helping him go his own way in the case that his relationship with his parents goes sideways, or keeping him safe since not everyone is so lucky like Olivia as to get training from Ying Yue.

And yea, I'm not worried for saves either. For example, she didn't go back and remove 'demon' flag or the tentacle pit scene... she simply cut future content with that sort of stuff. I imagine saves will break anyways though when she releases the Steam version.

The problem here is purely technical and consists of insufficient video memory on the 4090RTX, which was mentioned several times in her devlogs. She wrote that in her head in this dinner scene there should be a lot more people present (almost more than 20), but technically with the current video card it is impossible to realize this yet. With 5090RTX it will be easier to do it, but for now there are some small software (DAZ3D) difficulties there too, which, however, are solvable.
I'm definitely not an expert here... so maybe this is very stupid. But to get a full table of characters couldn't you just make two renders? One with the right seats filled, and one with the left seats filled. Then crop the two images in half and place them next together? I imagine if such a simple solution were possible though she would've already done that... Personally, I think a shot of them all at the table would be cool.
 
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I'm definitely not an expert here... so maybe this is very stupid. But to get a full table of characters couldn't you just make two renders? One with the right seats filled, and one with the left seats filled. Then crop the two images in half and place them next together? I imagine if such a simple solution were possible though she would've already done that... Personally, I think a shot of them all at the table would be cool.
There would be numerous ways of doing this if you understand how Daz works. You could even load everything you wanted to and then 'hide' them within daz so they do not use VRAM and then do the renders and merge in P'shop.

'Nicer' to just have everything in and render once. Sure perhaps...but the hassle involved can most often negate the time/hassle of piecemailing it together (and far often quicker to to do that than wait for Daz to render a ridiculously large RAM scene).

To go slightly OT, look at many other VN's...YC for a great example. No one needs 5090's to do a VN (especially if you understand how Daz actually renders and what it uses, VRAM and CudaCores), hell, even a 3090 is more than adequate for 99% of VN makers (unless your Ocean for example lol). What is required, is a good understanding of the application and to really learn lighting.
 
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Think about it, Angelica can fulfil the same role as Kiyomi anyways. According to someone (I think the guy with the Elden Ring signature) Tess had hyped up the romance with Kiyomi saying that it was supposed to come at the perfect time...
Guy with the Elden Ring signature here. From what I remember from my convo with Tess, Kiyomi was supposed to be kind of a " go your own way".Where Kane and Kiyomi leave the Karlsson world behind and set off on their own path. Remember, Kiyomi and Katsumi were captured/sold to the Karlssons. So Kiyomi's situation is like that of the early Janissaries of the Ottoman Empire. Taken from home and trained to be loyal to the empire. So her breaking free and subsequent romance would have happened at an opportune time.

But if that is no longer happening, Angelica can fill that role to a degree as mentioned in the quoted post .She's from outside the Karlsson group, independent and can walk away at the end. Still, I believe what happened to Kiyomi's route was extremely unfair.

P.S Why did I think a random 4-letter combination was a good name? Need to change that
 

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Corporate Development Memo 1 June 2025

Hi everyone!

I just literally got back from my short trip about 2 hours ago so forgive any images that aren't quite right as had Anais help me select them for this post ahead of time. I want to thank her as she helped me do a few renders this week to help ensure a 100ish render week as a reasonable goal each week, etc.

It was a great trip to see her graduate and give a great speech, and it was a wonderful family time but I'm pretty exhausted so will keep this a bit short. I will be posting a poll immediately after this post about doing poll images or not...I realized I forgot to do it last week so will just do it now after this post.

Last week -- 106 renders/1,690 total

I'm entering the last arc of 8.3 (kind of shifting to the last games and VIP stuff for this update) so will be working on both paths I think mixed up here and there.

I'll try and do a way more detailed/structured post next week as I try and outline where I think am overall. I'm making progress on Steam stuff too so may update that as well a bit more.

Really tired so will leave it at that for now -- I wanted to update on kind of close to my desired/normal time versus a day later so doing it now. The images above are partially from Game 4 but two other scenes are more optional and depend on certain flags being present from prior choices. So I'm getting back to more of the "main branch" scenes pretty soon as well as secret sub content.

Please have a great week all, and look for a poll soon!

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Corporate Development Memo 1 June 2025

Hi everyone!

I just literally got back from my short trip about 2 hours ago so forgive any images that aren't quite right as had Anais help me select them for this post ahead of time. I want to thank her as she helped me do a few renders this week to help ensure a 100ish render week as a reasonable goal each week, etc.

It was a great trip to see her graduate and give a great speech, and it was a wonderful family time but I'm pretty exhausted so will keep this a bit short. I will be posting a poll immediately after this post about doing poll images or not...I realized I forgot to do it last week so will just do it now after this post.

Last week -- 106 renders/1,690 total

I'm entering the last arc of 8.3 (kind of shifting to the last games and VIP stuff for this update) so will be working on both paths I think mixed up here and there.

I'll try and do a way more detailed/structured post next week as I try and outline where I think am overall. I'm making progress on Steam stuff too so may update that as well a bit more.

Really tired so will leave it at that for now -- I wanted to update on kind of close to my desired/normal time versus a day later so doing it now. The images above are partially from Game 4 but two other scenes are more optional and depend on certain flags being present from prior choices. So I'm getting back to more of the "main branch" scenes pretty soon as well as secret sub content.

Please have a great week all, and look for a poll soon!

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In the first picture is Dominique the one wearing the black suit?
 

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So guys what's the situation/verdict on the Dom content shuffling/removal whatever it was. Dev was very vague in her first post about it and I hardly saw any clarification on it in other posts so I would like to know in simple terms if she has removed some content or shuffled it or what?
 

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Guy with the Elden Ring signature here. From what I remember from my convo with Tess, Kiyomi was supposed to be kind of a " go your own way".Where Kane and Kiyomi leave the Karlsson world behind and set off on their own path. Remember, Kiyomi and Katsumi were captured/sold to the Karlssons. So Kiyomi's situation is like that of the early Janissaries of the Ottoman Empire. Taken from home and trained to be loyal to the empire. So her breaking free and subsequent romance would have happened at an opportune time.

But if that is no longer happening, Angelica can fill that role to a degree as mentioned in the quoted post .She's from outside the Karlsson group, independent and can walk away at the end. Still, I believe what happened to Kiyomi's route was extremely unfair.

P.S Why did I think a random 4-letter combination was a good name? Need to change that
Not sure Angelica is filling that role since her content is getting Pruned…
 

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Not sure Angelica is filling that role since her content is getting Pruned…
Silver, were you standing over Tess's shoulder when she wrote that? Or maybe you were in her head? I think we should wait for the "main post" (devlog) and then draw conclusions about what aspects of Angelica's branch this will affect.
Remember, Kiyomi and Katsumi were captured/sold to the Karlssons. So Kiyomi's situation is like that of the early Janissaries of the Ottoman Empire. Taken from home and trained to be loyal to the empire. So her breaking free and subsequent romance would have happened at an opportune time.
May I ask where you got this information from? Maybe I missed something, but it was never(?) mentioned in the game itself, and Kiyomi's past and how and why she became the way she did is still shrouded in mystery. Yes, we know that Katsumi was apparently Alexander's personal servant from an early(?) age, but Kiyomi is a special case and we still don't know anything about her childhood and youth.
 
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Silver, were you standing over Tess's shoulder when she wrote that? Or maybe you were in her head? I think we should wait for the "main post" (devlog) and then draw conclusions about what aspects of Angelica's branch this will affect.
They don't call him spoiler crow for nothing. they have yet to have been wrong on anything about this game
 
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PickerLewd

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In the first picture is Dominique the one wearing the black suit?
I have no idea. To me, all legs look the same, especially when none of them have pubic hair to identify them :ROFLMAO:.

Perhaps one of the experts on this thread will know the answer.
 

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May I ask where you got this information from? Maybe I missed something, but it was never(?) mentioned in the game itself, and Kiyomi's past and how and why she became the way she did is still shrouded in mystery. Yes, we know that Katsumi was apparently Alexander's personal servant from an early(?) age, but Kiyomi is a special case and we still don't know anything about her childhood and youth.
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Silver, were you standing over Tess's shoulder when she wrote that? Or maybe you were in her head? I think we should wait for the "main post" (devlog) and then draw conclusions about what aspects of Angelica's branch this will affect.
Wait.? That’s my nickname? :KEK: And yeah I thought I posted somewhere of Miss Tess saying that Celeste and Angelica content was getting pruned?…
Here's what you posted.


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"extensive branches will be pruned" doesn't necessarily mean she's talking about Angelica's route though. She was changing a lot of things.

They don't call him spoiler crow for nothing. they have yet to have been wrong on anything about this game
He says sub route is the best route. WRONG!!
 

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Here's what you posted.


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"extensive branches will be pruned" doesn't necessarily mean she's talking about Angelica's route though. She was changing a lot of things.


He says sub route is the best route. WRONG!!
Listen here buddy boy? Extensive branches on the dom side will be pruned, in context a the time of the chat was with Celeste and Angelica… but hey, we’ll see when everything is settled, I.e. which character from sub side goes dom and Vice versa… heh…

and Secondly… IT IS THE BEST PLAYSTYLE!! To me anyways :LUL: , and I’ll stand proud amongst the Dom players of this forum and be the Shining Star that sub players can look up to for Guidance!! :Kappa:
 

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Yeah, that's right. That scene slipped my mind...Although, there are still quite a few questions. For example, who trained Kiyomi herself in martial arts, considering that there is no one tougher than her and she can wring the neck of any Karlsson...And how come her sister Katsumi got into Alexander's service.

I have a long-held belief that Katsumi, if not lying, is clearly not telling Seth everything, and I assume that she and Kiyomi are not really from a simple family of some conventional bare-assed nomads from the Badlands. Their real elite and reach family probably once had the misfortune to get in the way of Alexander's business interests and subsequently lost to him, with the result that Alexander took the sisters as his prey.

However, little Kiyomi could have been taught martial arts by a sensei, a master of martial arts (back when they lived with their parents), and when she and Katsumi were forced to submit to the Karlssons, Kiyomi had already mastered the art of fighting so well that she was able to improve on her own and become stronger and more deadly. Of course, this is just a theory, but it seems reasonable enough to me. I hope in time the veil of secrecy over Kiyomi and Katsumi's past will be lifted and we'll get to know everything in detail.
 
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Yeah, that's right. That scene slipped my mind...Although, there are still quite a few questions. For example, who trained Kiyomi herself in martial arts, considering that there is no one tougher than her and she can wring the neck of any Karlsson...And how come her sister Katsumi got into Alexander's service.

I have a long-held belief that Katsumi, if not lying, is clearly not telling Seth everything, and I assume that she and Kiyomi are not really from a simple family of some conventional bare-assed nomads from the Badlands. Their real family probably once had the misfortune to get in the way of Alexander's business interests and subsequently lost to him, with the result that Alexander took the sisters as his prey.

However, little Kiyomi could have been taught martial arts by a sensei, a master of martial arts, and when she and Katsumi were forced to submit to the Karlssons, Kiyomi had already mastered the art of fighting so well that she was able to improve on her own and become stronger and more deadly. I hope in time the veil of secrecy over Kiyomi and Katsumi's past will be lifted and we'll get to know everything in detail.
Yea, if she just said it to Seth then I would think she's lying as well. But the fact that she says it to Kane whilst on the dom route makes me think it's the truth.

As for who she's been taught by. I'm 99.9% certain it says somewhere that both Olivia and Kiyomi trained under Ying Yue.
 

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Yea, if she just said it to Seth then I would think she's lying as well. But the fact that she says it to Kane whilst on the dom route makes me think it's the truth.

As for who she's been taught by. I'm 99.9% certain it says somewhere that both Olivia and Kiyomi trained under Ying Yue.
I'm leaning towards it being true too, but for now I'm sticking to my theory about an elite and wealthy family from Japan with long traditions, martial arts teachers and so on.

I thought about it, but I didn't see any mention in the game that Ying Yue might have trained Kiyomi. There was a mention of Olivia and that she studied martial arts at this temple, but that was to be expected.
 
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