Im getting more convinced that Kane was never meant to be a part of this story and only meant to be Olivia as the main MC. Kane has always been an afterthought, meaning look how Kane acts most of the time, he has a memory of goldfish he also has a personality of a robotic retard
I've mentioned this before, but one of the things I like the most about the sub path is that it keeps the "dual protagonist" dynamic from the intro and you make choices for both where as for dom path Olivia becomes "just another sister". I actually wish Olivia were the main character since she does a better job at it and the game seems better suited for it since god forbid Kane get to decide something.
I don't know if Tess is actually going to do another game after Anais, but female protag would be a really good fit for her style of game making.
She seems very squeamish about Kane doing bad things but pretty ok with Olivia doing them.
Female protag seems it would give greater flexibility for her games.
do any one have the post where it explains what Edom e sub and other things like o points and Z points do i think i used it before but cant find it again, Can any one help tried to use search but haven't helped much
Yeah...you don't want edpts either. (well...unless you want to head down that specific path I suppose heh...but ideally you want those low too. For record, I believe those are Elena Dom Points).
Those are the only two point variables (that I'm aware of...currently) that more = bad (if going good/dom route).
Nope, Edom is Edpts and those points are not directly related to Olivia. They could be called ElenaDom points. What they are for is written above. Dom Kane should avoid accumulating these points, such as when he goes to hang out with Scarlett and Samanta.
There are various scenes labled edom or esub based on Olivia alignment. Such as e6edom. There are no points for edom as mentioned by us both with edpts being the name for the points. Which might be short for edompoints perhaps but is never referred to as such by pdf or by internal game code.
Edpts are the evaluation points for episode 7 dom path, like the drinking thing in the subway. No references to "edom" outside of scene labels.
That is the main problem. She is fine with any female doing evil things but she is not fine with Kane doing them.
All the male pod members getting body pain, crawling, golden shower, kick on balls, tongue chair, boot licking, gross food or starvation, pegging with heated dildo, face mask dildo, dick cage shock and many other things i'm still not aware about because I don't play that path.
But now tell me what female pod is getting from above things. They don't even do basic boot licking for Kane. They walk not crawl. Kane is not even using body pain on them. For this game this are basic standard things and not extreme things. But Kane is even not getting to this basic things. Veronica is considered good or neutral among them, but she also does all this basic things. Even Kiyomi did many things but Kane is not doing those.
So everything is like this because of dev's own mindset. It has nothing to do about any comments or feedback dev is getting. Dom players are expecting same good/evil path and control which olivia and her karlsson sisters have. If dev don't want to develop dom path then just say it. Why talk about cutting extreme scenes when you are not even delivering basic things.
That is the main problem. She is fine with any female doing evil things but she is not fine with Kane doing them.
All the male pod members getting body pain, crawling, golden shower, kick on balls, tongue chair, boot licking, gross food or starvation, pegging with heated dildo, face mask dildo, dick cage shock and many other things i'm still not aware about because I don't play that path.
But now tell me what female pod is getting from above things. They don't even do basic boot licking for Kane. They walk not crawl. Kane is not even using body pain on them. For this game this are basic standard things and not extreme things. But Kane is even not getting to this basic things. Veronica is considered good or neutral among them, but she also does all this basic things. Even Kiyomi did many things but Kane is not doing those.
So everything is like this because of dev's own mindset. It has nothing to do about any comments or feedback dev is getting. Dom players are expecting same good/evil path and control which olivia and her karlsson sisters have. If dev don't want to develop dom path then just say it. Why talk about cutting extreme scenes when you are not even delivering basic things.
Kain can do some bad things like feed people to sharks and give someone lethal injections. Though yeah evil dom continuously gets chopped over time. It is telling that demon Kane is cut but not demon Olivia. And of course Olivia can make her own choices and manage things but not Kane(though in theory that should change soon).
Olivia even gets the "you're so amazing and awesome" treatment that most "chosen one" protagonists get.
It's why I agree that Olivia is better suited as a protag than Kane. If one character naturally fits as the plot doer they should be protag. Tess seems to like writing Olivia doing things, and some of my favorite scenes involve Olivia too, especially since Kane is pretty boring. So yeah she should totally do FMC for games. It just really seems that's the natural least stressful thing for her to write.
There are various scenes labled edom or esub based on Olivia alignment. Such as e6edom. There are no points for edom as mentioned by us both with edpts being the name for the points. Which might be short for edompoints perhaps but is never referred to as such by pdf or by internal game code.
Edpts are the evaluation points for episode 7 dom path, like the drinking thing in the subway. No references to "edom" outside of scene labels.
Sure. The asker was using walkthrough/game lable terms so I was responding using them. Again, in both walkthrough and flags pulled using urm there is no edom or esub lable outside of as a part of scene names.
Since he used terms like zpts and opts I wasn't going to confuse things by using terms not used in game hence sticking to edpts and espts and only using edom and esub as they are used in walkthrough and game code.
That is the main problem. She is fine with any female doing evil things but she is not fine with Kane doing them.
All the male pod members getting body pain, crawling, golden shower, kick on balls, tongue chair, boot licking, gross food or starvation, pegging with heated dildo, face mask dildo, dick cage shock and many other things i'm still not aware about because I don't play that path.
But now tell me what female pod is getting from above things. They don't even do basic boot licking for Kane. They walk not crawl. Kane is not even using body pain on them. For this game this are basic standard things and not extreme things. But Kane is even not getting to this basic things. Veronica is considered good or neutral among them, but she also does all this basic things. Even Kiyomi did many things but Kane is not doing those.
So everything is like this because of dev's own mindset. It has nothing to do about any comments or feedback dev is getting. Dom players are expecting same good/evil path and control which olivia and her karlsson sisters have. If dev don't want to develop dom path then just say it. Why talk about cutting extreme scenes when you are not even delivering basic things.
We've got a holiday tomorrow so up really late to write this, sorry for being a bit later than normal! I hope everyone that celebrates in the US has a nice Memorial Day!
I have multiple family members that have served and I respect and give thanks to each and every one of them! Most of them are long gone (World War 2 especially) but my family still remembers and honors them! (especially two in particular that are truly about Memorial Day and not just Veterans Day) A few of my highest tiers even know of my very strong interest/connection to another federal agency so government connections are not so strange for me!
1) Apple Payments - Just doing another PSA because I do notice some people signing up through the Apple app for Patreon tiers. Keep in mind that you are paying a premium price over using a normal website and/or Android. I think you can even join through a non iOS method and still use an iPhone later, but don't quote me on that as I could be wrong! I'm just mentioning this again in case someone that has joined doesn't realize they are paying an extra I think 30% on the price. Now if you're ok with it, totally fine but just wanted to mention it
2) TQA Face Models - While these are characters in KG, Anais has asked for a little bit of feedback on two faces for possible use in a future game. She is testing these two a LOT in the last two weeks so any feedback is nice -- either here or on Discord. But no need to of course, but this is a chance to give feedback on the ground level before she finalizes anything!
The two face models (remember hair/bodies/eye color/other things) are easy to change but the basic mouth/nose/facial shape is a bit trickier at times. The two models are:
Sunshine --the middle maid outfit lady and character in Dom Kane's path in KG and Lily, the school outfit female on the right who we just met thanks to the nicest character in game donating her to Kane.
So take a look and just let her know how you think they look more or less
3) Current Pics for Preview -> The sub pics are basically part of Game 4, and Kane gets to hang out with four nice ladies. The two dom pics are still in the writing stage so I only have about 6-7 renders so far, but it's basically a scene for Kane if he has both Rank K9 AND one EXEC PT from the last episode. It's a short detour before he does VIP stuff more formally. If you are not sure how to get the EXEC PT, it's in the walkthrough Free hint there.
4)Current update:I completed 113 renders this week - 1,584 total renders after 16 weeks so I am just barely short of a 100 render/week pace, which is mostly because of the polls that one week. I still believe 100/week is about my reasonable limit except for crunch time when I can go 150-200+ (near the end I will try and do this again as always)
5) Polls - I will do a poll in 2-3 days basically asking about doing another poll set, either short by design, longer ones, or none at all before the update finishes. I will explain the options in more detail and how it impacts my workflow and such...but just giving this heads up now.
6) Short Trip - I will be going back to Las Vegas™ for a short trip for my cousin's high school graduation but it's not very long (2 nights) and shouldn't be too much of a big deal overall. I'll probably get more writing done on the plane as always...
7) Overall Road Map - I am still outlining some changes to the endings as I said before -- likely now 16 endings versus 15 but with some changes. I'm not quite ready with all of that but I want to be sure I really lay out the entire endings in outline form so I can imagine them on a game screen, the music, etc. One thing I learned from Anais for sure was seeing a few games with good endings (Fallout New Vegas which is likely to be a model for me, a combination of scenes but also slides for minor characters a bit) and one that got me upset (Mass Effect 3) So I am going to try REALLY HARD not to blow it. I understand endings won't necessarily be what people are imagining/want in their mind, but I at least hope they are good/compelling to most people.
But personally, my favorite ending (and game) of all-time is The Outer Wilds but it's not really applicable to something like KG. I also wrote another ending (I termed it a secret ending) for Expedition 33 after Anais got me to play it (I was satisfied with the two endings but thought a third option was even better so I wrote it for my own fun) and for her it's a Top 10 game all-time, while I liked it but dislike parrying/action combat so the gameplay for me was just ok.
8) Patreon msgs - Please remember that my msgs are being screened by my fiance so don't write anything too...err...just use your common sense. My public post covered this, but expect maybe a 48 hour response time versus 24. If I take even longer (like when I go on the short trip) please be patient and I apologize!
Sorry for typos, it's 3am and I'm not bothering to screen this too hard now! Have a great week all!
That was test from Juliatte for some evil points. But only control Kane currently have is female pod. That is why I talked about them. Kane should be able to treat them good or torture them according to good/evil path we are playing. There was good opportunity for Kane to show his management abilities but gameshow ruined that for him. He did not even have information about girls because he was not aware that Angelica can fly helicopter. That should have been at least mentioned before when Taylor was showing him girls first time or later when kane talk with them in group of 2.
Angelica does seem overly capable given her background. And with how the exec point was gained, I’m wondering if at least two members of that female pod might not have completed their training long ago.
I mean.. none of them are even branded with a mark of shame. Most of them have beds, free access to toilets and baths. It just doesn’t make any sense when they range from K2-K4.
There's nothing surprising about that. Let's just say that her server is not one of those places that encourages opinions that are very different from her own. So yes, it's faster and easier to get help here in this thread.
As for what Silver replied to you, the dev has a peculiarity, she can't stand incest (Olivia is not Kane's sister, I suppose you guessed that yourself). However, I wouldn't be surprised if asking a similar question about "when I can fuck my lil sis Liv" would get you banned on her server.
There's nothing surprising about that. Let's just say that her server is not one of those places that encourages opinions that are very different from her own. So yes, it's faster and easier to get help here in this thread.
As for what Silver replied to you, the dev has a peculiarity, she can't stand incest (Olivia is not Kane's sister, I suppose you guessed that yourself). However, I wouldn't be surprised if asking a similar question about "when I can fuck my lil sis Liv" would get you banned on her server.
I legit answered the poster and I guess they weren't happy with the answer so they went to discord. Probs should've learned my lesson after they're still calling Liv their sister.
I legit answered the poster and I guess they weren't happy with the answer so they went to discord. Probs should've learned my lesson after they're still calling Liv their sister.
