Stan5851

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MC must take away the power from them and turn all four of them into his tame cats - become a good daddy for them, because perhaps these girls have “daddy issues” - these girls can set the world on fire.
they were not given a little more childhood, while Olivia's childhood was nothing like that.
While nice on paper and ideal word situation, you're never taming Juliette. Ever. Alessandra....there's a possibility, but if you were paying attention to dialogue between these characters and Dominique/Veronica, they will not be happy with being sidelined and being allowed a little 'freedom'...2 of them are more than happy to remove the competition to advance their own agenda's.

So on the good/dom route (which in likelihood is the cannon story along with being with good/dom Olivia), then you/we have a problem. A big problem. Sure, they may concede defeat on a vote when KaneVia take over the company....BUT...and this is a major but....they do still run specific branches of the organisation and if they are prepared to remove a sister or two, we (and by definition Olivia) are certainly well within their firing line (depending on our standing with them).

How much 'freedom' exactly do we allow them to indulge in their 'lifestyle'....because 2 of the sisters are sure as hell never going to change their ways. They are too far ingrained in their personalities/traits now to ever change.

(all the above dependent on how Tess wants the actual story to play out..but all the above has already been either factually stated in game, or very heavily hinted at. I can only imagine the coding branches if the sisters start to off each other....the variables are mad depending on the already highly convulated branching paths that exist).
Having a harem of obedient sisters is very tempting for many dom-players. However, it is not so unrealistic as it may seem against the background of Juliette's complete incorrigibility or Alessandra's "average readiness" to obey our rigid will. But who says that in this brutal post-apocalyptic world the harem has to be necessarily orientalistically cute and Kane Dom has to fulfill the role of a caring father for sisters deprived of a normal childhood?

These girls are old enough and smart enough to understand perfectly well who they are and how things came to be. Even sociopathic Juliet understands perfectly well who she is and takes it as a given, not intending to change in the slightest. So a different fate awaits those who are unwilling to reform themselves.That's what Tess writes about it.
From a few private PMs over the last month (sorry!) plus:
3. No, there probably isn't a pure harem ending with Juliette/Dominique/Alessandra/Veronica given their extreme differences in some respects so it's hard to make narrative sense, but there may be endings with one or more of them, and the others could be enslaved/subservient/Mistress/dominant over/under you, etc. So some possibilities there, but not likely a pure Dom Kane with 4 equal women, by definition, it's more likely one is your romantic partner, and others are just bodies to use, etc.
And if what is written here is realized 100%, I will be very satisfied. And I would love to try to get to the top with my beloved Olivia and/or lovely Veronica as LI (together or separately) and the rest of the sisters as our future personal slaves. :sneaky:
 

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Regarding this, I am making a wiki for Karlsson's gambit. I made the Karlsson_Group_relationships before, but I wanted something where we could have more detail. Also, a place to add lore that is difficult to fit into the game itself without too much exposition.

I've added most of the characters already along with their infoboxes, and I'm working on adding the rest. All that remains is populating the wiki with content. I'll be doing it, but on my own, it will take a long time to complete. So if anyone wants to add/edit to this wiki, you're welcome. Please create an account so it's easier to track. Here's the link to the Wiki.
Just wanted to say I really appreciated the relatioships doc you created (y)
 

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Having a harem of obedient sisters is very tempting for many dom-players. However, it is not so unrealistic as it may seem against the background of Juliette's complete incorrigibility or Alessandra's "average readiness" to obey our rigid will. But who says that in this brutal post-apocalyptic world the harem has to be necessarily orientalistically cute and Kane Dom has to fulfill the role of a caring father for sisters deprived of a normal childhood?

These girls are old enough and smart enough to understand perfectly well who they are and how things came to be. Even sociopathic Juliet understands perfectly well who she is and takes it as a given, not intending to change in the slightest. So a different fate awaits those who are unwilling to reform themselves.That's what Tess writes about it.

And if what is written here is realized 100%, I will be very satisfied. And I would love to try to get to the top with my beloved Olivia and/or lovely Veronica as LI (together or separately) and the rest of the sisters as our future personal slaves. :sneaky:
Hmm...be Olivia and Dominique for me (not sure if Veronica would accept Dominique being in that arrangement, they tolerate each other at best)...however, slave Alessandra and Juliette would certainly be more than fun hehe....and be quite fesity fun at that I would imagine rofl.

It's a shame really that there are far too many variables currently and unknowns to try and even accurately guess what may be....example slave Pat and Sam would be a lot fun also unless they sweared loyalty to us....Chanel would also be a lot of fun to have as a slave though not sure Elena would be too happy with that, maybe she just needs a good whipping session to get her into line..perhaps Olivia could do that for us lol.
 

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And if what is written here is realized 100%, I will be very satisfied. And I would love to try to get to the top with my beloved Olivia and the rest of the sisters as our future personal slaves. :sneaky:
Hell yeah, i´m looking for the same, but i would prefer to be one step up Olivia, Kane deserve the powerful position after all the things he has done.
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what is secret sub?
Thanks :)
Alessandra route...if dominant she will be interested...but only if you are a sub to her...behind cloosed doors, in the bedroom. So dominant to all who see you....submissive to her in secret.
 

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Alessandra route...if dominant she will be interested...but only if you are a sub to her...behind cloosed doors, in the bedroom. So dominant to all who see you....submissive to her in secret.
It does look like from what I posted earlier, what Miss said, “Secret sub Kane: Alessandra main one, two more not disclosed possible” it seems like two more secret sub options are possible… I wonder who they are?… and the Sub routes are what we know… Tho Katsumi is surprising… Elena, Veronica, Juliette, Alessandra, Dominique, Katsumi, Junko…

I also wonder what Not disclosed but hard to explain is with characters like Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah… interesting
 

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It does look like from what I posted earlier, what Miss said, “Secret sub Kane: Alessandra main one, two more not disclosed possible” it seems like two more secret sub options are possible… I wonder who they are?… and the Sub routes are what we know… Tho Katsumi is surprising… Elena, Veronica, Juliette, Alessandra, Dominique, Katsumi, Junko…

I also wonder what Not disclosed but hard to explain is with characters like Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah… interesting
Kiyomi I think is obvious, requires a very specific set of choices to get on her 'side romance' path...the others we can't say yet as nothing happened with them. I assume Kiyomi's 'path' will be expanded upon somewhat more perhaps? I could see Elena having a secret sub route too maybe...would fit her character in wanting a dominant facing Kane but submissive to her when no one else around. Guess we'll find out these other routes in time.
 

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Alessandra route...if dominant she will be interested...but only if you are a sub to her...behind cloosed doors, in the bedroom. So dominant to all who see you....submissive to her in secret.
So... I have to be dominant to everyone else but submissive to her?
 

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Kiyomi I think is obvious, requires a very specific set of choices to get on her 'side romance' path...the others we can't say yet as nothing happened with them. I assume Kiyomi's 'path' will be expanded upon somewhat more perhaps? I could see Elena having a secret sub route too maybe...would fit her character in wanting a dominant facing Kane but submissive to her when no one else around. Guess we'll find out these other routes in time.
Hmmm I’m not sure with Elena, since she has a open sub path… but then again, so does Alessandra… we have yet to see really any other sub routes open up besides Juliette’s, and Dominique/Junko
 
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Chanel would also be a lot of fun to have as a slave though not sure Elena would be too happy with that
I can’t say for sure, maybe my eyes read it that way, but I have a feeling that Elena will be fairly OK with Chanel ending up in slavery ( of course, if she doesn’t come to her senses).
In addition, Alexander said that he pins his hopes on his son, but there are no irreplaceable people.
The corporate culture as a whole is a bit like The Addams Family.
 

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Hmmm I’m not sure with Elena, since she has a open sub path… but then again, so does Alessandra… we have yet to see really any other sub routes open up besides Juliette’s, and Dominique/Junko
For sure yeah. I've read the walkthrough extensively a few times but I'm very much like Stan5851 in that I haven't touched the sub paths at all (very much against my nature being a dominant myself of almost 30 years...I think one of the reasons why I love this so much, aside from the the story and characters, in that Tess and I, while diametrically opposite...are actually very similar in many ways and I can see where she is coming from, her pov etc...if that makes any sense).

I will play all paths eventually but until the story finished, the sub routes are not of interest to me, will only play them for completionist value eventually, so can only comment on those routes from what I know from within the walkthrough.

I can’t say for sure, maybe my eyes read it that way, but I have a feeling that Elena will be fairly OK with Chanel ending up in slavery. In addition, Alexander said that he pins his hopes on his son, but “there are no irreplaceable people. The corporate culture as a whole is a bit like The Addams Family.
Yeah Elena a funny one at times....you could be quite right, if she doesn't pull her finger out for Olivia, Elena might be quite happy to have her put in her place heh. Really at the moment, other than the obvious end goal...lots of plot points could really head in any direction currently couldn't they.
 

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WAIT WAIT wait What? Juliette as Dom Kane? Is this new info?
Meaningful romance as dom Kane with Juliette? It has to be with the evil route right? Or we can strive Juliette from the evil path?
 
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WAIT WAIT wait What? Juliette as Dom Kane? Is this new info?
Meaningful romance as dom Kane with Juliette? It has to be with the evil route right? Or we can strive Juliette from the evil path?
Yes evil route AFAIK.
 

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WAIT WAIT wait What? Juliette as Dom Kane? Is this new info?
Meaningful romance as dom Kane with Juliette? It has to be with the evil route right? Or we can strive Juliette from the evil path?
Yes What you see from what Tess Posted today is what she (off the top of her head) is thinking when it comes to what character routes will happen with both Sub and Dom! Tho they’re also other paths that are “Not disclosed but hard to explain: Kiyomi, Phoebe, Chanel, Delilah” and also including the
Secret sub Kane: with Alessandra being the main one, but now we know there’s two more not disclosed, possible…
 

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I'm a bit surprised there will be Kitsumi route for sub Kane. So far she hasn't shown him any interest.

Anyone else concerned that the secret sub route isn't gonna get the love it deserves ?
 
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