VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Well you're probably right, but reason why you don't think so?

Also, do you know which Karlsson sisters are the ones with the Japanese-looking masks?
Red-Tips is Veronica, right? And I'm guessing White-Tips surely could only be Dominique or Juliette.
White-Tips also is the one that gave Kane the bracelet.

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Most likely sceneario (and most popular theory) is one is Alessandra....Callisto is Gambit Queen who they visit.

So (despite Tess questioning me on this in Discord)...Veronioca visiting Calista I can understand and connect the dots given their common desires. Alessandra, confuses me (I just don't see why she would want to go along with Callista's plans)...though I think it's more confirmed she is one of the mask wearers where as V is just an assumption at best at this moment.

 

[Stan5851]

Well..I have the ability to put likes again, I hope f95 will no longer be so strict about these harmless emoticons that are so asking to be put from under some people's posts..hehe

Unfortunately, Elena will not be a part of my character's future family. I would say "I chase other evil creatures" who are not related to Elena .

Well, at least Elena has a special unique perk among all other "evil creatures". You can radically change her personality if you decide that a mother-in-law should be kind, treat her son-in-law to homemade pies and humiliate her servants and slaves less often.

 

[Stan5851]

Ohhh for sure....for sure....for sure....

Well, what else could it be?

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[Maviarab]

Well..I have the ability to put likes again, I hope f95 will no longer be so strict about these harmless emoticons that are so asking to be put from under some people's posts..hehe

Well, at least Elena has a special unique perk among all other "evil creatures". You can radically change her personality if you decide that a mother-in-law should be kind, treat her son-in-law to homemade pies and humiliate her servants and slaves less often.

Hey no steady on Stan....slaves are one thing but the damn pies? Keep the pies...she can do what she likes with her slaves

Well, what else could it be?

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[Silver_Crow117]

Spoiler: Something I did lol

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[MilesEdgeworth]

Tess would return one last time to drop another hornet nest in this thread

At the beginning of the game, you can get not sponsorship but mentorship from Elena (ElenaMentor flag). It's not really clear yet what the benefits are, but I think it's worth it to be on good terms with your future mother-in-law, regardless of whether you're a Dom or Sub, haha.

a blowjob from Kasumi is preferable to the electric shock Kane gets for not complying. There's your benefit.

Well you're probably right, but reason why you don't think so?

Also, do you know which Karlsson sisters are the ones with the Japanese-looking masks?
Red-Tips is Veronica, right? And I'm guessing White-Tips surely could only be Dominique or Juliette.
White-Tips also is the one that gave Kane the bracelet.

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The red tip is indeed Veronica, however, white tip is Alessandra


Ok, now onto what occurred to me. Tess debunked my original theory of the four states when she said the states weren't similar at all. so my guess of the states in no particular order

1. Some version of Kane running the Karlsson group with the sister of his choice
2. Revolution
3. Veronica and Dominique's adam and Eve project
4. Kane dies, chaos at the top

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Tess would return one last time to drop another hornet nest in this thread


a blowjob from Kasumi is preferable to the electric shock Kane gets for not complying. There's your benefit.



The red tip is indeed Veronica, however, white tip is Alessandra


Ok, now onto what occurred to me. Tess debunked my original theory of the four states when she said the states weren't similar at all. so my guess of the states in no particular order

1. Some version of Kane running the Karlsson group with the sister of his choice
2. Revolution
3. Veronica and Dominique's adam and Eve project
4. Kane dies, chaos at the top

She said that there’s 3-5 factions as well…

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Most likely sceneario (and most popular theory) is one is Alessandra....Callisto is Gambit Queen who they visit.

So (despite Tess questioning me on this in Discord)...Veronioca visiting Calista I can understand and connect the dots given their common desires. Alessandra, confuses me (I just don't see why she would want to go along with Callista's plans)...though I think it's more confirmed she is one of the mask wearers where as V is just an assumption at best at this moment.

I assume they're all following their father's orders whether they like it or not. She seems to actually like it

She said that there’s 3-5 factions as well…

one mystery at a time. Im not even going to begin to try and tackle factions since there's not enough info to go on

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Poor Kwame, I thought he was doing quite well as K7.. Guess he done f*ed up.. And I hope the doghouses are permanent residences for our victims, err, friends, Zach and Jake.

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[WattsFU]

I'm not fussed with how things play out. If any of them points to their pussy i'm on my knees licking it. That's wat matters here.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

while combing through that Veronica scene I came across a scene with either an error or revelation

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but yeah, even though Elena is the one who says the stuff about Veronica deafening the slaves, Veronica confirms. Strange that she'd lie to her mother of all people.

 

[Maviarab]

Soo...world states....factions....sisters....

Phew...gonna be a long weekend....we're all good though...I got copious amounts of coffee...we'll be ok!

 

[kinkyshin]

Tess would return one last time to drop another hornet nest in this thread


a blowjob from Kasumi is preferable to the electric shock Kane gets for not complying. There's your benefit.



The red tip is indeed Veronica, however, white tip is Alessandra


Ok, now onto what occurred to me. Tess debunked my original theory of the four states when she said the states weren't similar at all. so my guess of the states in no particular order

1. Some version of Kane running the Karlsson group with the sister of his choice
2. Revolution
3. Veronica and Dominique's adam and Eve project
4. Kane dies, chaos at the top

Why is it Alessandra? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

When White-Tips and The Gambit Queen are talking they say things like:

Gambit Queen: "And I think it's safe to say that you probably have three Board votes right now." "But Probably three against."

How does Alessandra have board votes? From what I understand it's Julliette and Dominique that have three votes each, right? And Veronica is the one that refuses to help either of them.
(Also, this conversation takes place well before Dominique and Juliette decide to 'team up' during the boat scene when they realize Olivia has a real shot at taking over the company. So it's not like they're talking about 3 votes for the Dominique + Julliette alliance and 3 votes for Olivia)

White-Tips, during that conversation with Gambit Queen also says:

"Yes, which leaves... Elena."
??????: "But she knows now... how can she not try to help her own child?"
??????: "Elena may support us anyway if it turns out..."

Alessandra is actually pushing for Olivia to take over the company, so why would the White-Tips (Ms. Grym Gudinna) be concerned about Elena not supporting them over Olivia if White-Tips actually is Alessandra?
Alessandra's support for Olivia is shown later on the boat scene:

Dominique: "Do you realize what is happening behind the scenes? And who might be pushing her to take over the company?"
Julliette: "We don't even know how we can take over the company yet, so what of it? I know Alessandra is pushing for her."

 

[Maviarab]

Why is it Alessandra? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

When White-Tips and The Gambit Queen are talking they say things like:



How does Alessandra have board votes? From what I understand it's Julliette and Dominique that have three votes each, right? And Veronica is the one that refuses to help either of them.
(Also, this conversation takes place well before Dominique and Juliette decide to 'team up' during the boat scene when they realize Olivia has a real shot at taking over the company. So it's not like they're talking about 3 votes for the Dominique + Julliette alliance and 3 votes for Olivia)

White-Tips, during that conversation with Gambit Queen also says:



Alessandra is actually pushing for Olivia to take over the company, so why would the White-Tips (Ms. Grym Gudinna) be concerned about Elena not supporting them over Olivia if White-Tips actually is Alessandra?
Alessandra's support for Olivia is shown later on the boat scene:

All very valid points.

 

[kinkyshin]

All very valid points.

Also, I think the only reason everyone keeps saying it's Alessandra, is because in chapter 7 there is a scene called 'grymgudinnalives' which is Alessandra and Patricia talking...

But in the scene it's just Alessandra bitching about how two of the sisters haven't been attacking each other like she had hoped. Likely Dominique and Juliette, who instead actually formed a ceasefire and alliance until their competition is out of the picture. Which, once again, goes to show that white-tips (Grym Gudinna) is one of them.

 

[Alan Dalles]

Why is it Alessandra? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

When White-Tips and The Gambit Queen are talking they say things like:



How does Alessandra have board votes? From what I understand it's Julliette and Dominique that have three votes each, right? And Veronica is the one that refuses to help either of them.
(Also, this conversation takes place well before Dominique and Juliette decide to 'team up' during the boat scene when they realize Olivia has a real shot at taking over the company. So it's not like they're talking about 3 votes for the Dominique + Julliette alliance and 3 votes for Olivia)

White-Tips, during that conversation with Gambit Queen also says:



Alessandra is actually pushing for Olivia to take over the company, so why would the White-Tips (Ms. Grym Gudinna) be concerned about Elena not supporting them over Olivia if White-Tips actually is Alessandra?
Alessandra's support for Olivia is shown later on the boat scene:

Why you are think that Dominique and Juliette has three votes each by the question of Gambit's legitimacy (theme of that conversation)?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Why is it Alessandra? That doesn't make sense to me at all.

When White-Tips and The Gambit Queen are talking they say things like:



How does Alessandra have board votes? From what I understand it's Julliette and Dominique that have three votes each, right? And Veronica is the one that refuses to help either of them.
(Also, this conversation takes place well before Dominique and Juliette decide to 'team up' during the boat scene when they realize Olivia has a real shot at taking over the company. So it's not like they're talking about 3 votes for the Dominique + Julliette alliance and 3 votes for Olivia)

White-Tips, during that conversation with Gambit Queen also says:



Alessandra is actually pushing for Olivia to take over the company, so why would the White-Tips (Ms. Grym Gudinna) be concerned about Elena not supporting them over Olivia if White-Tips actually is Alessandra?
Alessandra's support for Olivia is shown later on the boat scene:

Tess tells us who grym gunida is. Even if the second meeting with pat could be explained away. The fact that Pat is meeting with her in secret can't.
As for the votes, I assume it's for the gambit. If it was just for the person, the queen wouldn't be talking about Elena possibly getting what she wants since what Elena wants wouldn't be any of the sisters not named olivia winning it.
Alessandra's not supporting Olivia, the only person currently supporting Olivia other than Elena is Veronica and I believe that's only because she's supporting Kane and what he wants.

 

[Maviarab]

Tess tells us who grym gunida is. Even if the second meeting with pat could be explained away. The fact that Pat is meeting with her in secret can't.
As for the votes, I assume it's for the gambit. If it was just for the person, the queen wouldn't be talking about Elena possibly getting what she wants since what Elena wants wouldn't be any of the sisters not named olivia winning it.
Alessandra's not supporting Olivia, the only person currently supporting Olivia other than Elena is Veronica and I believe that's only because she's supporting Kane and what he wants.

Three votes isn't each. Think you may have misunderstood.

As for as three votes, Yvette, Veronica and Dominique will all (I imagine) vote for Olivia/Kane. That does still make the conversation about Elena a bit weird...even weirder that surely that's what Calista wants also?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Three votes isn't each. Think you may have misunderstood.

As for as three votes, Yvette, Veronica and Dominique will all (I imagine) vote for Olivia/Kane. That does still make the conversation about Elena a bit weird...even weirder that surely that's what Calista wants also?

Yeah, it's 3 for, 3 against whatever it is the votes are for ( I imagine the gambit).
I doubt that Dominique would vote for Olivia when she wants to run the company herself, and I imagine that Callista is supposed to be a non-partial bystander. The only person on the board openly advocating for Olivia is Elena. Everybody else is either doing what Alexander wants or advocating for themselves.
I'm sure Yvette would back Veronica if Veronica wanted the power, but Veronica doesn't want it, so she likely defaults to the board.

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah, it's 3 for, 3 against whatever it is the votes are for ( I imagine the gambit).
I doubt that Dominique would vote for Olivia when she wants to run the company herself, and I imagine that Callista is supposed to be a non-partial bystander. The only person on the board openly advocating for Olivia is Elena. Everybody else is either doing what Alexander wants or advocating for themselves.
I'm sure Yvette would back Veronica if Veronica wanted the power, but Veronica doesn't want it, so she likely defaults to the board.

Sorry...I mistyped my own damn post lol...duhh...been a long day,...

I meant for Kane alone..not Olivia. Those three (Yvette, V and Dom) are actively looking to honour ole Alexanders wish of a male heir on the throne. So those three are definitely voting for Kane/sister to take over...Which sister exactly...remains to be seen, but in that particular power play, we have to assume Dominique.

However, once again, it does beg the question of Calista's motivations (given she trained Olivia)...and part in the gambit...or is Calista actively pushing for a Kane on the throne plot and just using the well trained and intelligent Olivia as the wildcard to disrupt the other sisters?

Too many damn questions as always lol.