VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[YuNobi1]

I'm not even reading the rest of it....

Luke was BEFORE she left the Karlsson Group. *throws arms in air*...

The Luke scene (for me..just my opinion) was at least 2 years before Callista left with Olivia (three months pregnant with Kane), if not even longer..... This is the pivotel moment where he 'changed''...where he 'lost something very precious to him'....and was 'never the same'...

Remember key conversations with Callista...Veronica...Alessa....his daughters never knew the man he once was....he wasn't always that way. Also keep in mind, Olivia is approx 2 years old when Callista leaves (this is not assumption..this is fact as told by Tess to me). She is a toddler in the Asian temple scene when she gives birth to Kane (tess won't reveal exactly how old), which if we take a 14 week gestation period before being able to identify the sex of Kane...makes that scene approximately 6 months after Callista left.

The PREVIEW has failed me...

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[Sharpshooter890]

The PREVIEW has failed me...

Where do you get that Luke dies before Callista left KG? PLEASE show me where in the game that says Luke died so early. Luke is not mentioned by anyone other than Callista, and only in this one scene. Her Pier Farewell and Hospital are either the same age OR she's at least older in the hospital, but this might just be because of the bruises. If your justification is that the flashbacks happen in order, they can't as here is the DEFINITE chronological order: Pier (Ep. 5), Sanctuary (Ep. 7), Park 1 (Ep. 3),* Park 2 (Ep. 6),** SPOILER (Ep. 8), Hike (Ep. 7), Helicopter (Ep. 6)***

*Hospital (Ep. 4) must happen before Park 1, due to Callista's hair change, and I have already given my reasons it happened before Sanctuary.

**In Park 1, Callista cuts Kane's playground time short after talking to Yvette and Veronica, but doesn't know their names. Park 2 Kane is mad at Callista, avoiding her, when he meets Veronica, who calls herself "Stacy", and he never sees Yvette. Kane's lines are also "younger" in Park 1 compared to Park 2.

***Piano (Ep. 6) based on Olivia's face and hair style seems to follow Hike, and likely precedes Helicopter, but possibly shortly after (it's not stated how long Callista's been "dead"). It is also unknown how close Piano is to Hike or Helicopter.


Tess has intentionally kept the timing/cause of Alexander's "implosion" vague, and I would even say fluid.
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Dominique (and apparently Yvette and Elena), apparently feel that Alexander didn't truly break until Cole's "Betrayal" was discovered, which would have been after Callista escaped KG, however Cole claims that he already lost his heart long before that moment.

Veronica's ruminations break her own timeline. She theorizes up to 4 possible breaking points: 1) Losing Callista (either at the breakup, or 2) this could have occurred after her escape as D/Y/E believe, though Veronica appears to disagree with that interpretation), 3) Klara and Karin's successful escape, and 4) before Alexander had even started the project (aka Karlsson Gambit) of impregnating several women, which included Yvette and Elena, but this was before the breakup, discovery, and initial infidelity (we don't know how many times Alexander had sex with Yvett and Elena before he was caught).

If Alexander's insanity began at the Breakup, then Callista is able to tell Grymm that the good man "died" before Grymm was born, so long as Grymm is not Dominique, so no issue. However, Veronica does not believe that even Dominique saw "Good Alexander", and Cole confirms that Dominique never met him, and the only children who don't meet their fathers at birth are those with [temporarily] absent fathers (e.g., deployed military, deadbeats). So either Alexander went bad before Dominique was born, or Alexander had not known of Dominique's birth until after the Breakup. (Since Tess is against incest, then Dominique is definitely not secretly Callista's daughter.)

Callista states that the moment Alexander fell in love (with her) was his sole moment of happiness in his life, yet if we also know that his whole goal in life was to have a child, preferably a son, with Callista, wouldn't the fulfillment of his lifelong dream (Callista conceiving a child, and they confirm his sex) be at least a second moment of happiness, if not trumping the first? Callista also claims that Alexander wasn't able to give up his darkness in order to keep the woman he fell in love with. Since she doesn't say that the darkness began/grew, but instead that he had to give it up after his infatuation, that means Callista sees that the darkness was there from the beginning of their romance. However, hers and Cole's statements about what kind of man "Good Alexander" was suggests Callista had met and known this man, but the darkness came before he fell in love with her. (Alternatively, Callista may have never met the honorable Alexander, and is merely quoting Cole's statements about their mutual early years).

Since Callista and Cole are firsthand witnesses, with Cole claiming that Alexander went bad before Dominique, and Callista indicating he was bad at the start of their love story, then a very early turn to the Dark Side is the only scenario that matches all of their statements, and whatever theories Veronica is able to piece together.


No, I'm saying that Cole's and Callista's plan for Callista's escape wasn't as good as they thought.

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This statement can be made by all the sisters, as they do each enjoy (orgasm) over their evil deeds, but which of the sisters is sefl-reflective enough to be able to make this honest critique?
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Which of the sisters would Callista believe is capable of making the choice her father failed to make, and abandon her darkness for the sake of her ultimate goal?

These are the questions to be asking. Again, based on the rest of the conversation, Grymm offers no information/intel, makes no contribution to Callista's efforts, they also make no mention of an deal/price that Grymm has to pay, instead Callista is providing Grymm insider information, telling her to get close (fuck) her son, advising her on how to "fulfill your father's wishes" (which are the conditions to win the Gambit), her current status in the Gambit, and a strategy for moving forward and upward in this "competition", and here is trying to pull a Luke Skywalker on Grymm. Callista wants a good Grymm, she wants her to win the Gambit, which means that Grymm procreates with Kane. At this point, going strictly on what IS IN THE GAME and not any theory, Callista is more invested in making sure that Grymm wins than...[see spoiler below]... by supplying Grymm the most with insider information.

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Callista is controlling who becomes the mother of her future grandson, and thereby has a vested interest in what type of woman that will be.

For the love of Olivia's perfect butt, please put all that wall of text under a spoiler tag.

 

[kinkyshin]

Slightly off topic but the post got me thinking -- some people on here 100% believe that Grym Gudinna is Alessandra. I've never said this is wrong, but I've never been ready to accept it as a 100% fact.

Re-reading it now though -- she says she's enjoying life too much to be evil. Alessandra also tells Kane (in the SecretSub route I believe) that she's the only Karlsson sister that's actually happy. So maybe it really is her.

Also, as for why Callista would help Alessandra... Alessandra has said several times that she is on Olivia's side (probably a lie, but still).

Maybe it does fit.

Actually just realized something else that could further point to Alessandra being Grym Gudinna. Most likely, not only did she help Nadia get the bracelet to Kane, but she's also helped Nadia get in contact with Cole. And, I'm not sure how Veronica found out about Cole, but I bet Alessandra had something to do with it and the two sisters she's hoping kill each other aren't Dominique and Juliette (Who, rather getting even more hostile with each other actually formed a temporary alliance) but Veronica and Dominique. She was hoping that Veronica would react poorly to Dominique keeping Cole's existence a secret but she's done nothing but kept secret about the fact that she knows.

 

[Quetzzz]

Started this game based on Maviarab's suggestion. It took me a while to get to it, but after finishing Chapter 1, I can say that I'm impressed. While there are some grammatical errors, the writing is actually good. Characters will reference choices the player made earlier, and change their attitude towards him. The story itself is paced nicely with enough hints as to the bigger picture, while also being mysterious enough to be relatively unpredictable.

I have the habit of writing down my thoughts and impressions as I'm playing through an AVN. Here's my play-by-play of Chapter 1, for anyone interested:

Spoiler: Chapter 1 play-by-play

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[| Vee |]

Anyone can tell me if we got any new about when we will get 0.8 final version.
It's going to be a month nearly it test version is released.
I can just take so much of this wait.

DON'T TELL Me "Yo! you can play this now and final when it comes, skip it to keep you saves content." I'm not dumb, I know I can do it. Do I want to? NO! That's why I'm asking this question.

Just tell me if we got any news of final version release date or not.

 

[MagicMan753]

The only news we got is that TessSadist said DoverUK25 is a bad actor for reasons other than leaking the game adding that she doesn't care about anyone leaking her game if they do it by hosting the game file on another link, other than the link she provides to her supporters. Then when Dover does just that, he becomes a bad actor for leaking the game on his own mega account and gets a warning that he will get banned on her patreon if he provides anyone with the game link even if it's hosted outside. Contradictory to what she said earlier about not caring about who leaks her game but for someone who's bad for other reasons.

And btw she said she will provide with the links for her game herself, but I am not surprised if someone can lie once, they can do it twice easily.

The thing is tess didn't tell us directly she would give someone the link for the download, I forgot who said that, but tess never stated directly to us, someone said that is what tess said to them, which for all we know could be a lie and tess didn't actually tell them about providing a link. I just have a hard time believing things unless it is directly from the source.

 

[MagicMan753]

Yeah but that is someone saying tess said that, when in actuality they could be lying, getting false info, etc. Tess has not posted on here or any other website about giving a download link for here, all the info about that is coming from other people.

 

[Cirelc]

It's going to be a month nearly it test version is released.
I can just take so much of this wait.

The Final Release version A was 9 days ago...

Anyone can tell me if we got any new about when we will get 0.8 final version.

If no one leaks it earlier, probably after the B version will be released.

 

[| Vee |]

The only news we got is that TessSadist said DoverUK25 is a bad actor for reasons other than leaking the game adding that she doesn't care about anyone leaking her game if they do it by hosting the game file on another link, other than the link she provides to her supporters. Then when Dover does just that, he becomes a bad actor for leaking the game on his own mega account and gets a warning that he will get banned on her patreon if he provides anyone with the game link even if it's hosted outside. Contradictory to what she said earlier about not caring about who leaks her game but for someone who's bad for other reasons.

And btw she said she will provide with the links for her game herself, but I am not surprised if someone can lie once, they can do it twice easily.

The problem here isn't That she didn't provided the game herself but that she pretends to be such a nice thing but in reality she's just avoiding a game leak at all costs whether it's by accusing DoverUK25 of something they haven't did or by giving false hope to her free roaming fans so that her real sub supporters don't leak her game for the sake of these free roamers.

It is giving me these vibes

This makes one wonder, Tess suddenly coming here was for this reason exactly, highlighting about the leaks, huh!

 

[Simbasta1]

is there a compressed version of seasson 1?

 

[Sancho1969]

I just noticed that there is only a compressed version of the beta available in the OP, I hope that in the final version Dover will share the uncompressed version with us .
Due to lack of disk storage I'm starting to have the games made in Renpy compressed, but this is one of the few select games I want the normal version .

Well, technically the supply in the OP is only very lightly compressed and done very gently. A proper compressed version of "Test" (beta) is done by SonsOfLiberty in the post here. They are not the same thing.. the OP supply can be thought of as non-compressed even though very light compression was used to keep the VN at a reasonable size considering the amount of images/animations it contains (the ratio). It was done at a AC setting of 85 at slow speed.... again, very very light.

is there a compressed version of seasson 1?

That search bar is a bitch to use, ain't it? Sigh... find it here, again properly done by SonsOfLiberty.

 

[Sancho1969]

The PREVIEW has failed me...
( wall of text cut)

For the love of Olivia's perfect butt, please put all that wall of text under a spoiler tag.

Amen.

YuNobi1, please edit your post and contain the WOT. It's simple forum etiquette for consideration of other site members, as is done on any other forum on the net. Having a summary then all the rest of your post inside a spoiler will not remove the other spoiler tags you already have, they will simply be embedded inside the "master" spoiler. This will keep your post within a reasonable size, and easily skipped by those who aren't interested (not to mention the massive eyesore due to ridiculous length). I do this personally all the time in my posts, even in my own threads. It's the "right" thing to do... consideration of others. Thanks bud.

 

[Sancho1969]

You don't say this when there are 1 mile long theories discussed here?

I say it all the time... search for the topic via my member ID. I'm not a site mod though... it's not my job to "police"... but I do try to kindly remind the worst offenders I run across as it's been out of control on this forum for some time (as you are precluding to). This is not a "holier than thou" thing, it's only pointing out lack of consideration of other site members.

 

[newdawn75]

Is there an agreement between the sisters sleeping with mc? If so what is it?

 

[FinrayB]

The only news we got is that TessSadist said DoverUK25 is a bad actor for reasons other than leaking the game adding that she doesn't care about anyone leaking her game if they do it by hosting the game file on another link, other than the link she provides to her supporters. Then when Dover does just that, he becomes a bad actor for leaking the game on his own mega account and gets a warning that he will get banned on her patreon if he provides anyone with the game link even if it's hosted outside. Contradictory to what she said earlier about not caring about who leaks her game but for someone who's bad for other reasons.

And btw she said she will provide with the links for her game herself, but I am not surprised if someone can lie once, they can do it twice easily.

The problem here isn't That she didn't provided the game herself but that she pretends to be such a nice thing but in reality she's just avoiding a game leak at all costs whether it's by accusing DoverUK25 of something they haven't did or by giving false hope to her free roaming fans so that her real sub supporters don't leak her game for the sake of these free roamers.

With respect to Tess, Its a pirate site. She should have no say how someone chooses to share their files. But, i gotta say... it was obvious and predictable to me how this whole final release here was going to be handled. I wont say why of course. That should be obvious. But it doesn't matter anyway.. dont really care anymore. jus my two copper's

 

[Maviarab]

Actually just realized something else that could further point to Alessandra being Grym Gudinna. Most likely, not only did she help Nadia get the bracelet to Kane, but she's also helped Nadia get in contact with Cole. And, I'm not sure how Veronica found out about Cole, but I bet Alessandra had something to do with it and the two sisters she's hoping kill each other aren't Dominique and Juliette (Who, rather getting even more hostile with each other actually formed a temporary alliance) but Veronica and Dominique. She was hoping that Veronica would react poorly to Dominique keeping Cole's existence a secret but she's done nothing but kept secret about the fact that she knows.

Certainly a very viable theory kink....definitely plausible indeed. I shall think on this one on my next playthrough.

Started this game based on Maviarab's suggestion. It took me a while to get to it, but after finishing Chapter 1, I can say that I'm impressed. While there are some grammatical errors, the writing is actually good. Characters will reference choices the player made earlier, and change their attitude towards him. The story itself is paced nicely with enough hints as to the bigger picture, while also being mysterious enough to be relatively unpredictable.

I have the habit of writing down my thoughts and impressions as I'm playing through an AVN. Here's my play-by-play of Chapter 1, for anyone interested:

Spoiler: Chapter 1 play-by-play

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Read my timeline. Alexander didn't set anything up with the MC in prison per-se...but it's possible...he was dead...this was a set up yes...but not by AK (Alessandra set this up..and she is not 'fully' privvy to Alexander's Gambit plans btw, however the MC having to work his way up is certianly part of the Gambit yes.)...please, keep playing...then make your statements...you're missing so much information that really, you cannot make the statements you are making (most are wrong). The information comes...(well..some of it lol)

Anyone can tell me if we got any new about when we will get 0.8 final version.
It's going to be a month nearly it test version is released.
I can just take so much of this wait.


DON'T TELL Me "Yo! you can play this now and final when it comes, skip it to keep you saves content." I'm not dumb, I know I can do it. Do I want to? NO! That's why I'm asking this question.

Just tell me if we got any news of final version release date or not.

Should be out hopefully later today or tomorrow. Tess is back from her working holiday today.

Is there an agreement between the sisters sleeping with mc? If so what is it?

Yes, only at the start though.

With respect to Tess, Its a pirate site. She should have no say how someone chooses to share their files. But, i gotta say... it was obvious and predictable to me how this whole final release here was going to be handled. I wont say why of course. That should be obvious. But it doesn't matter anyway.. dont really care anymore. jus my two copper's

With respect, no one fucking cares.

And if you don't care anymore...why are you even here whining? The people who PAY for it...and are here...don't want to leak it. Take it up with them...I also won't leak it here just so whiny entitled assholes can get it Tess has said, she will give a link to an uploader...she is back today. So still free, just be fucking patient. Or...go pay a few bucks and get it yourself.

Suck it up princess.

 

[newdawn75]

I've seen it in posts where ppl think grymm is alessia and how callista is telling her to sleep with her son... anytime u sleep with alessia is when celeste is around and each of those times your either cumming outside or inside celeste... hell the last time during the bf cuck alessia tells u to cum inside celeste. u wud think that if alessia is grymm she wud want mc's cum inside her... but only one I've seen actually demand to be cum inside is dominique. and she has admitted to being evil in the past and is trying to change.

 

[Maviarab]

I've seen it in posts where ppl think grymm is alessia and how callista is telling her to sleep with her son... anytime u sleep with alessia is when celeste is around and each of those times your either cumming outside or inside celeste... hell the last time during the bf cuck alessia tells u to cum inside celeste. u wud think that if alessia is grymm she wud want mc's cum inside her... but only one I've seen actually demand to be cum inside is dominique. and she has admitted to being evil in the past and is trying to change.

MC is 'currently' temporarily steralised. He ain't making anyone pregnant yet. Alessa also not stupid enough (if MC was potent currently) to get pregnant in the middle of the gambit.

 

[newdawn75]

MC is 'currently' temporarily steralised. He ain't making anyone pregnant yet. Alessa also not stupid enough (if MC was potent currently)m to get pregnant in the middle of the gambit.

Isn't it to win the gambit u need to impregnate one of the daughters with a male grandchild?

 

[Maviarab]

Isn't it to win the gambit u need to impregnate one of the daughters with a male grandchild?

Please spoiler your questions:

To answer...yes but it's really not as simple as that. Somone needs to run the company until the child can take over. Alessa does not want to run the company (too much hassle) and also too risky at the moment with all the chess pieces on the board. What dom youm think julie would do for example if she found out one of her sisters was up the duff hmmm?

Too early for any sister to be thinking that way....yet.