VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[YuNobi1]

Bad YuNobi!

Yeah...even the scene with Veronica and Nadia, Veronica basically says without so much words I'm keeping shit from you again that we don't want you to know and you'll find out at the right time.

It's like, every single character almost at this point. Kane needs to go full Kaneinator on their asses as soon as he is able. Why was so, so happy to see that sentence with Elaine, finally..start speaking your damn mind man...the whole damn facility keeps saying you're a special case, important, blah blah....wake up man....start stirring the pot, they are not going to retaliate against you.

Even we as players with third party knowledge...like you say, I don't see the need now/currently to still be keeping secrets and keeping Kane in the dark...what actual purpose does it serves for them now?


Let me know please

Bro, I so want to put Piggy's hood back on (the site is a kink, and the knowledge I put her in it *chef's kiss*), but that deletes the Otto-Junko scene, so I abstain... though I've apparently lost Junko by banging Dominique, which is frustrating, as there is never saying "no" to Dominique.

I can see keeping the Gambit secret, but if Callista knows that "Kane is key" to any of the sisters winning the Gambit, then Kane is going to have to be informed before the Gambit finishes, and be given time to consider who is going to be his queen. I really think he should have already been informed, because we seem to have passed the first sister to possibly be permanently closed off (Juliette if you refuse to attend/kill). I don't know, maybe psychotic Alexander wants to recreate his life so much in Kane's experience that Kane has to be on the very same Temple steps where he fell in love and identified his perfect woman, so Kane can't know about/consider the sisters in this way until that very moment, thus he is the one who announces the winner (and the final "trials" are the sisters' final chance to demonstrate to Kane why she's the perfect choice). Yes, there is the Board vote, but I'm beginning to suspect that this is just for SubKane (Dominique infers that a vote taking place is based upon how future events transpire, therefore it's not guaranteed to occur at all).

 

[Maviarab]

Bro, I so want to put Piggy's hood back on (the site is a kink, and the knowledge I put her in it *chef's kiss*), but that deletes the Otto-Junko scene, so I abstain... though I've apparently lost Junko by banging Dominique, which is frustrating, as there is never saying "no" to Dominique.

I can see keeping the Gambit secret, but if Callista knows that "Kane is key" to any of the sisters winning the Gambit, then Kane is going to have to be informed before the Gambit finishes, and be given time to consider who is going to be his queen. I really think he should have already been informed, because we seem to have passed the first sister to possibly be permanently closed off (Juliette if you refuse to attend/kill). I don't know, maybe psychotic Alexander wants to recreate his life so much in Kane's experience that Kane has to be on the very same Temple steps where he fell in love and identified his perfect woman, so Kane can't know about/consider the sisters in this way until that very moment, thus he is the one who announces the winner (and the final "trials" are the sisters' final chance to demonstrate to Kane why she's the perfect choice). Yes, there is the Board vote, but I'm beginning to suspect that this is just for SubKane (Dominique infers that a vote taking place is based upon how future events transpire, therefore it's not guaranteed to occur at all).

Heh...yeah maybe, knowing what we know of Alexander, that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Silver_Crow117, since you are a Mac user... did you have any issues with v0.7b (Season 1) exporting at the end of the VN? I'm attempting to assist drisarter (see the above posts) but since I'm not on Mac have no way to personally test my theories on his save slot variable issue, although the code appears very sound. The only thing that comes to mind is if RenPy is interpreting the Python function field variables differently in Rv7.4.10, which it certainly shouldn't.

Any ideas you can provide as a Mac user are appreciated. Regards.

Hello! In Regards to the Mac version of KG, I have had no problems with carrying my saves over from season 1 (.7b) to the beginning of Season 2! I’ve tested the Mac version before even the beta came out and I had no problems since the beta officially released… all that’s needed is to make sure you save at the end of episode 7 properly and the data from there should properly transfer over to episode 8… I don’t even have problems with the Windows version and or your mod, since I can run it on Parallels… for Mac it’s all about giving the game files permission to access your Mac… so technically you could bring up the terminal on Mac and type,
“Sudo Chmod -R 755” and then drag the application of KG into the Terminal, press space and it should promt you to enter your computer password (if you have one)… I don’t have to due this technically but if anyone’s having problems you can try that…

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

On the plus side the sex scene with Juliette and The way Kane talked to nadia and Elena shows us he's getting more aggressive and now that he's possibly with Olivia I don't see her keeping things from him. Also hopefully Dominique is pissed off enough at the loss of her botanist to say fuck it and just tell Kane what's what ( I know she won't, but one can hope).

 

[Maviarab]

On the plus side the sex scene with Juliette and The way Kane talked to nadia and Elena shows us he's getting more aggressive and now that he's possibly with Olivia I don't see her keeping things from him. Also hopefully Dominique is pissed off enough at the loss of her botanist to say fuck it and just tell Kane what's what ( I know she won't, but one can hope).

Hmmm...if you're doing the shuffle tango under the influence of expensive wine with her, she may do...especially if Amara also tied up in the room at the same time...

We're stuck with story reasons...but I can see Dominique having a moment and saying you know what, hey Kane, come here a second. She does have the split personality within her as we know, in terms of doing what's right, what she should do and what is expected of her.

Olivia if romancing...should be a given...but eh....we'll see I guess heh.

Hello! In Regards to the Mac version of KG

So wait...you're a sub player AND a Mac user? Oahh jeesh...there's just no hope for you dude

 

[Maviarab]

Do we know we know?, with how many womens Alexander had children?

At a minimum...that we know...four. Possibly 5 because we do not know who the mother of Alessandra or Juliette is. Never mentioned. I suspect the same mother (just my own thoughts) but could be different.

You have: (in birth order, Astrid aside):

Dominique: ??? (Supposedly died when Dominique was young)
Veronica: Yvette
Olivia: Elena (2 days after Veronica)
Juliette: ???
Alessandra: ???

Astrid: Yvette (No idea when born in relation to the others)
Luke: Callista (suspect died in the womb due to an accident. This is theory though)

 

[Sancho1969]

for Mac it’s all about giving the game files permission to access your Mac… so technically you could bring up the terminal on Mac and type,
“Sudo Chmod -R 755” and then drag the application of KG into the Terminal, press space and it should promt you to enter your computer password (if you have one)… I don’t have to due this technically but if anyone’s having problems you can try that…

That is indeed what my first hunch was but we narrowed that out I believe (I had him check for file Write permissions). I'll flag drisarter here just in case. Thanks bud.

 

[Maviarab]

Were these women's partners/key personalities with Alexander at the time they got pregnant? Or just random women's and/or slaves?

If you follow the story, he wanted children (ideally a son) with 4 different, brilliant women. Callista was one of those women (and his personal Goddess) but never happened. Was Dominiques mother one of these women? *shrugs*..who knows...it is my own belief, she was born before the formation of the company. That's just my theory.

Was Elena one of these women? Possibly...but who knows, she may have been 'there' due to troubles in his relationship with Callista. I would say Yvette was one of these 4 women. Alessa and Jules...their mother? Again..who knows (and yes...that would actually make 5 women heh....Alessa and Jules are odd here as we know nothing of their mother at all...or what happened to her....).

Download my character/timeline sheet (linked in the op), that will give you more info on who is who and who is related to who and why etc etc.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

So wait...you're a sub player AND a Mac user? Oahh jeesh...there's just no hope for you dude

I mean, I have a PC but I’m on the move and prefer using Mac for what I do… plus I have parallels on my computer so I can optimize both experiences… and I’m a sub player (maybe the only one on this forum that actually talks for sub Kane) and actually plays/looks into that side of the story…I don’t skip the content/details… Us subs are gonna eat good for part two:… literally

 

[Maviarab]

I mean, I have a PC but I’m on the move and prefer using Mac for what I do… plus I have parallels on my computer so I can optimize both experiences… and I’m a sub player (maybe the only one on this forum that actually talks for sub Kane) and actually plays/looks into that side of the story…I don’t skip the content/details… Us subs are gonna eat good for part two:… literally

Hey...I'm playing all the sub routes now....and read the dialogue. I just ctr forward the actual 'scene' hehe.

 

[YuNobi1]

On the plus side the sex scene with Juliette and The way Kane talked to nadia and Elena shows us he's getting more aggressive and now that he's possibly with Olivia I don't see her keeping things from him. Also hopefully Dominique is pissed off enough at the loss of her botanist to say fuck it and just tell Kane what's what ( I know she won't, but one can hope).

It may just be my Dominique bias [simp], and my annoyance with Veronica's behavior throughout the game talking, but I really hope even Good Dominique turns on "aggressive mode" when she finds out how much Veronica has been hiding from her, and undermining her chances to win. "You all and Father always thought I wasn't aggressive enough, well get ready to see just how aggressive I can be" and she "revolts" against the Gambit system in an effort to "seize the throne that is rightfully hers". ...but obviously I have a personal stake on that outcome. Haha.

That wasn't what I was asking, sure brilliant means something but still these brilliant women can be non important at the time, they got involved with Alexander, I am asking if these had any importance for Alexander or were they randomly chosen only for the purpose of conceiving a son?

All we know for sure is that Alexander measured each woman up to Callista (except maybe Dominique's mom), but none of them ever compared to her, and he blamed them the women for that. Despite all the horrible things he did to Callista, while being honest over his darkness, she does speak kindly of him, which cannot be said of Elena or Yvette, so I personally doubt they, or the unknown women, ever had a romantic connection, merely a sexual one. However Yvette did give him two daughters years apart, so maybe.

NOTHING has been said about Alessandra's mother. Seeing the level of sadistic evil Phoebe displays, Yvette/Elena half-conjecture that this behavior makes her almost seem like she could be Juliette's mother, but this statement is also said by Cynthia to Nadia about her behavior resembling Juliette's sister (and Juliette's verbal attack on Nadia shows that they are definitely not sisters but bitter rivals akin to Harry-Draco).

 

[Maviarab]

That wasn't what I was asking, sure brilliant means something but still these brilliant women's can be non important at the time, they got involved with Alexander, I am asking if these were had any importance for Alexander or were they randomly chosen only for the purpose of conceiving a son?

Well most were all friends before the formation of the company. Yes, if we discount Elena perhaps as a mother (because that might have just been a fling), they were picked. No offence, but if you were paying attention, you'd know Alexander would not just pick some random woman just to have a child with...

Nothing he did was random...why he was so desperate to have a child (son) with Callista, as far as he was concerned, the child would have been genetically perfect. This is all explained in the story.

And now you're on ignore because you're an alt of someone already on ignore. Jesus, seriously, how pathetic can someone be.

It may just be my Dominique bias [simp], and my annoyance with Veronica's behavior throughout the game talking, but I really hope even Good Dominique turns on "aggressive mode" when she finds out how much Veronica has been hiding from her, and undermining her chances to win. "You all and Father always thought I wasn't aggressive enough, well get ready to see just how aggressive I can be" and she "revolts" against the Gambit system in an effort to "seize the throne that is rightfully hers". ...but obviously I have a personal stake on that outcome. Haha.

Delicious Yu...

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

It may just be my Dominique bias [simp], and my annoyance with Veronica's behavior throughout the game talking, but I really hope even Good Dominique turns on "aggressive mode" when she finds out how much Veronica has been hiding from her, and undermining her chances to win. "You all and Father always thought I wasn't aggressive enough, well get ready to see just how aggressive I can be" and she "revolts" against the Gambit system in an effort to "seize the throne that is rightfully hers". ...but obviously I have a personal stake on that outcome. Haha.

When Veronica was talking about how pissed she was at Dominique for hiding the cole stuff from her, all I could think was, bitch, you got some nerve!

 

[Maviarab]

When Veronica was talking about how pissed she was at Dominique for hiding the cole stuff from her, all I could think was, bitch, you got some nerve!

Especially after she was hiding stuff about Cole from Callista hehe.

Pot...kettle...black love?

 

[Sancho1969]

Yep, in my mind if MC(Dom) I'd be putting a very quick end to the deceit and bullshit... or suffer the wrath of "the chosen one" via alliances and other chess board play. But, again, that's the redneck in me thinking in the space of if I were Kane in this fictional story. The company board would have me CEO within a month, tops.

 

[Maviarab]

Yep, in my mind if MC(Dom) I'd be putting a very quick end to the deceit and bullshit... or suffer the wrath of "the chosen one" via alliances and other chess board play. But, again, that's the redneck in me thinking in the space of if I were Kane in this fictional story. The company board would have me CEO within a month, tops.

I completely agree but unfortunately, as you say, we are not the MC and he surely isn't thinking like us lol. What I find interesting (as a little fun-thought) is if we were...but only knew exactly what Kane knew...would we still say we'd do x/y/z with our personalities or would we too think..woahh...hang on a min...maybe take a step back and evaluate our situation.

Easy to say what we'd be like and do...when 1. We have more info than our hapless hero does and 2. Not in that situation...

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

heh someone outted their dupe name.

Veronica's out here hiding whole islands from her family but wants everybody to be transparent with her.

Cant wait for the Callista talk with Kane.

Yes, I hid who your father was from you for no reason whatsoever, and yes I faked my death, and yes I put you in a life-threatening situation but I did it all for you, sweety. Forgive me?

 

[YuNobi1]

Yep, in my mind if MC(Dom) I'd be putting a very quick end to the deceit and bullshit... or suffer the wrath of "the chosen one" via alliances and other chess board play. But, again, that's the redneck in me thinking in the space of if I were Kane in this fictional story. The company board would have me CEO within a month, tops.

I mean, we're only on Day 8 since Elena met Kane in prison. We got PLENTY of time to take over in a 1 month time span. Haha.

heh someone outted their dupe name.

Veronica's out here hiding whole islands from her family but wants everybody to be transparent with her.

Cant wait for the Callista talk with Kane.

Yes, I hid who your father was from you for no reason whatsoever, and yes I faked my death, and yes I put you in a life-threatening situation but I did it all for you, sweety. Forgive me?

Yes that does bring up a quandary: if Callista has believed all these years that Cole was truly dead, why was there a need to hide his identity? Perhaps Callista had to keep all possible association with KG a secret from Kane until the Second Gambit, thus talking about a man whom you met, befriended, fell in love, were intimate with, and lost while and because you were a founding executive of KG, is not something you divulge. The only reason Olivia/Kane/Seth even know that Callista is hiding "father" is their knowledge of anatomy. I'm thinking her death was to fool the Board, because Alexander would certainly have seen through it, and Callista couldn't risk letting Kane slip the truth in a moment of "duress" (and who knows, maybe he talks in his sleep). As for the Gambit, I've stated before that she clearly has no choice in the matter. Her confession to Elena shows that every one of her actions since Kane's conception has been to protect his life, or in tangent to that goal.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I completely agree but unfortunately, as you say, we are not the MC and he surely isn't thinking like us lol. What I find interesting (as a little fun-thought) is if we were...but only knew exactly what Kane knew...would we still say we'd do x/y/z with our personalities or would we too think..woahh...hang on a min...maybe take a step back and evaluate our situation.

Easy to say what we'd be like and do...when 1. We have more info than our hapless hero does and 2. Not in that situation...

I would've been even snarkier with Elena. "If you're not going to tell me about my father, why the fuck did you bring me here and tell me that story?"
ditto with the nadia situation " why am I meeting people who just want to see me. wtf are you hiding from me? I'm getting sick of all this secrecy!"

 

[Maviarab]

heh someone outted their dupe name.

Veronica's out here hiding whole islands from her family but wants everybody to be transparent with her.

Cant wait for the Callista talk with Kane.

Yes, I hid who your father was from you for no reason whatsoever, and yes I faked my death, and yes I put you in a life-threatening situation but I did it all for you, sweety. Forgive me?

Just wait until Kane's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate arrives!