VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[rosethorn87]

I just want to say that I very rarely comment on these forums. I'm more a vouyer but honestly was so enraged by the following post I couldn't keep quiet.


Wow. I have never come across a post so offensive on this forum.
Firstly you say that switch is not a kink and there fore you are not kink shaming. Wow.
As a switch let me educate you. A kink is classed as catch all term for a range of consensual practices. This can include but are not limited to role play, power dynamics or fetishes. Since being a Dominant, A submissive or a switch which is someone whois bot dominant and submissive dependant on who their partner is or are would be classed as power dynamics it is there for a kink... Me personally I am dominant to women and submissive to men and yes I class myself as bi sexual. Or do you not believe in that either.
You also said not kink shaming here but in the next breath you don't believe someone can be a switch. Is that not the very definition of kink shaming. (From Google. Kink shame is to disrespect or devalue a person for his or hers particular kink or fetish)

Secondly you say that the content of this game is not submissiveness. Then please tell me what the sub route is? Does it not have content about domination and submitting to a greater power. Training those they deam below them to be submissive and or in slavery.

Thirdly. I do get what the other members are saying about Olivia. I do not believe she is evil as they put it but she does act differently towards the different types of the MC. Where the MC is submissive and the sister is dominant she acts more colder to her brother than she does on his dominant route. I do also believe she does take a small amount of pleasure in being distant with him under the guise of being watched by those higher than her. She is still being watched by them on his dominant route but acts better towards him.

Lastly there is nothing wrong with fetlife as long as you use common sense. It is how I got to know my current master and his wife and now live 24/7 as his submissive and her Domme and yes that does mean she serves 2 dominants.

I hope that I have educated the members on this site.
I hope that I am not breaking the forum rules in this post. My aim is to educate and also talk about the current game version and it's thread.

What a wonderfuly written post as a dominant I agree with your view points

 

[Silver_Crow117]

No..it doesn't contain either actually.

Now, I know for a fact, warnings have been given out for posts before and after mine. So the mods have seen my post. Should you be sooooo offended, then by all means feel free to report it (again...as I can guarantee it already has been), but as it probably has and has not been removed, my statement stands. Tell me something, does SubKane have free will? No? we no longer need to discuss this then do we as you will always fail to understand.

Fetlife is a toxic cesspit of idiots, wannabe's and fakes. Has been for years (and I been doing this far longer than fetlife has been around btw). As for being offended...that's on you, not me.

You have a good holidays.

That’s soo wrong Mav.,. sub Kane does have free will!! In some instances…the Player can choose to have Kane get farted on

 

[Maviarab]

That’s soo wrong Mav.,. sub Kane does have free will!! In some instances…the Player can choose to have Kane get farted on

Touche Silver...touche

 

[ZoeySwitch]

No..it doesn't contain either actually.

Now, I know for a fact, warnings have been given out for posts before and after mine. So the mods have seen my post. Should you be sooooo offended, then by all means feel free to report it (again...as I can guarantee it already has been), but as it probably has and has not been removed, my statement stands. Tell me something, does SubKane have free will? No? we no longer need to discuss this then do we as you will always fail to understand.

Fetlife is a toxic cesspit of idiots, wannabe's and fakes. Has been for years (and I been doing this far longer than fetlife has been around btw). As for being offended...that's on you, not me.

You have a good holidays.

Well please do educate me about what the Dom and sub routes are about then.

Yes there are numerous occasions where we the players make a choice on behalf on the MC from the very first choice we are given in the game to the very last where he chooses to join his sister or not. Or am I now wrong about what free will is.

Are you one of the developers for this game because you certainly have a lot of opinions about what this game is and is not.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

Touche Silver...touche

I will say, it will be interesting to see how, sneaking around/espionage will work with sub Kane since that’ll be one of the mechanics after the gameshow where the factions are more relevant

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[Stan5851]

That’s soo wrong Mav.,. sub Kane does have free will!! In some instances…the Player can choose to have Kane get farted on

Well, if there's no free will, then Kane must have his own "stop word"! What, he doesn't have one either? Oh, no! But jokes aside, perhaps the problem is that some players, in a misguided attempt to judge this game by the usual BDSM criteria, refuse to realize one simple thing - immutable BDSM postulates "safe, sane and consensual" don't work here.

I think the game should be seen simply as a great dystopian post-apocalyptic fantasy that Tess managed to bring to life in the form of the written scenario and then the game itself. And if we look closely, the Dom route also doesn't feel at all like "domination as an element of a power exchange game".

There is no "game" here, but a harsh reality in which there is a race of slaves and a race of Masters, and there is a chosen one (Kane) who can come to the ultimate goal in different ways - either by submitting (sub) and making an alliance with stronger and more powerful figures, or by becoming a powerful figure himself (Dom), subjugating all the others and taking power into his own hands.

 

[Maviarab]

I will say, it will be interesting to see how, sneaking around/espionage will work with sub Kane since that’ll be one of the mechanics after the gameshow where the factions are more relevant

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Will be very interesting indeed yes....SubKane sneaking about sounds a lot of fun actually.

 

[motseer]

No..it doesn't contain either actually.

Now, I know for a fact, warnings have been given out for posts before and after mine. So the mods have seen my post. Should you be sooooo offended, then by all means feel free to report it (again...as I can guarantee it already has been), but as it probably has and has not been removed, my statement stands. Tell me something, does SubKane have free will? No? Then no more questions your honor.

Fetlife is a toxic cesspit of idiots, wannabe's and fakes. Has been for years (and I been doing this far longer than fetlife has been around btw). As for being offended...that's on you, not me.

You have a good holidays.

In fairness, Mav, Mr. Switch, with his, "As a switch let me educate you" post, has done an adequate job of showing me his "Dom" side. Perhaps an even better effort at demonstrating his "Sub" side in another post could convince me that a "Switch" can be more than just a cut sapling... Jus' Sayin'

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Im mad that mav pulls off the christmas hat but I cant. This should be illegal.

Anyway, let's talk dekocks. So, according to context clues and Tess's aversion to incest, we know Stefan is the only kid of Michael and Cynthia. Nadia is the kid of Cole and some random woman. This leaves us with Delilah; she can't be a Dekock because of the aforementioned aversion to incest. So what exactly is she? I doubt we'll ever know cuz not every familial history has to be solved, but still, something to ponder.

 

[motseer]

Im mad that mav pulls off the christmas hat but I cant. This should be illegal.

Anyway, let's talk dekocks. So, according to context clues and Tess's aversion to incest, we know Stefan is the only kid of Michael and Cynthia. Nadia is the kid of Cole and some random woman. This leaves us with Delilah; she can't be a Dekock because of the aforementioned aversion to incest. So what exactly is she? I doubt we'll ever know cuz not every familial history has to be solved, but still, something to ponder.

I like my beret better. I mean... I've been accused of having a big head before but, this is rididculous. It does, however, explain why it fits "helmet head" so well... Jus' Sayin'

Nadia is the perfect example of behavior modification over genetics. It also provides insight into how truly evil Cynthia must be. Kane may be technically related but, if playing a good Kane, such an extreme divide only provides justification for discounting any relationship. I don't think there is even a hint at Delilah's relation to the rest of the family. Maybe she's adopted... Regardless, Delilah is tainted but, possibly, salvageable which is why I keep her as a slave. The other two? My Paladin Kane has no use for them.

 

[latex lvr]

Im mad that mav pulls off the christmas hat but I cant. This should be illegal.

Anyway, let's talk dekocks. So, according to context clues and Tess's aversion to incest, we know Stefan is the only kid of Michael and Cynthia. Nadia is the kid of Cole and some random woman. This leaves us with Delilah; she can't be a Dekock because of the aforementioned aversion to incest. So what exactly is she? I doubt we'll ever know cuz not every familial history has to be solved, but still, something to ponder.

But Delilah is a DeKock so Cole being a DeKock and Kane's father then Delilah would be at the very least a first cousin to Kane.
I can't remember if Kane and Delilah have had any sexual interactions. I don't think they have but not 100% sure. I do remember when the DeKock's had a family meeting in the sub Cynthia checked that Delilah had not had sex with Kane.

No doubt the other 2 will contradict me on this

 

[PickerLewd]

At first I thought the hat was a present for me as it was my second birthday here yesterday, but it turns out they are everywhere.

It looks like a fancy dress party, there are several users I have trouble recognising with these huge Christmas hats .

 

[kinkyshin]

But Delilah is a DeKock so Cole being a DeKock and Kane's father then Delilah would be at the very least a first cousin to Kane.
I can't remember if Kane and Delilah have had any sexual interactions. I don't think they have but not 100% sure. I do remember when the DeKock's had a family meeting in the sub Cynthia checked that Delilah had not had sex with Kane.

No doubt the other 2 will contradict me on this

Kane fucks Delilah if you start at k6. She is also a future romance option later according to Tess.
And when Cynthia asks Delilah if they had sex, Delilah will lie.

 

[jadepaladin]

But Delilah is a DeKock so Cole being a DeKock and Kane's father then Delilah would be at the very least a first cousin to Kane.
I can't remember if Kane and Delilah have had any sexual interactions. I don't think they have but not 100% sure. I do remember when the DeKock's had a family meeting in the sub Cynthia checked that Delilah had not had sex with Kane.

No doubt the other 2 will contradict me on this

Dom route (K6) Delilah fucks Kane if you have enough points with her. Even if you don't I think she gives a bj.

 

[PickerLewd]

so would put both Sam and Scarlet at K7/8

I thought Sam had a much higher rank, being the head of the prison guards.

Is she really just K? So she's just another slave to the system .

 

[Maviarab]

Im mad that mav pulls off the christmas hat but I cant. This should be illegal.

Anyway, let's talk dekocks. So, according to context clues and Tess's aversion to incest, we know Stefan is the only kid of Michael and Cynthia. Nadia is the kid of Cole and some random woman. This leaves us with Delilah; she can't be a Dekock because of the aforementioned aversion to incest. So what exactly is she? I doubt we'll ever know cuz not every familial history has to be solved, but still, something to ponder.

Oft discussed. Until Tess reveals it it's all guess work.... My bet is she is in/or was a similar position to Olivia. Cyntha either 'took her' as payment or to ensure someone did something or she (for once) did a nice thing and took her under wing as a child. She definitely ain't a DeCock though, that's for sure.

I thought Sam had a much higher rank, being the head of the prison guards.

Is she really just K? So she's just another slave to the system .

Sorry! My bad...I meant S (staff) not K.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I thought Sam had a much higher rank, being the head of the prison guards.

Is she really just K? So she's just another slave to the system .

Yeah, she's not promoted because she's too bloodthirsty (allegedly). It's total bullshit if you ask me, she deserves a better position, she's a real hard worker, that one. Top tier waifu.

Honestly, her treatment of the prisoner that beat us was one of the reasons I stuck with the game to begin with. I really like that Tess isn't afraid to put somewhat disturbing scenes into the game, even at the potential cost of alienating some people.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

I thought Sam had a much higher rank, being the head of the prison guards.

Is she really just K? So she's just another slave to the system .

Scarlett’s rank will be revealed this update

 

[PickerLewd]

I really like that Tess isn't afraid to put somewhat disturbing scenes into the game, even at the potential cost of alienating some people.

Yes, she did it in a very clever way, there is censorship because we don't see a drop of blood, but the dialogues and the disturbing music (especially the one in the main menu ) put you right in the atmosphere.

 

[Stan5851]

Yes, she did it in a very clever way, there is censorship because we don't see a drop of blood, but the dialogues and the disturbing music (especially the one in the main menu ) put you right in the atmosphere.

I'm not sure about “not a drop of blood” (if, for example, you remember the very evil scene on the EvilDom route where Olivia (who has more than 11 points of evil) and Kane visit Mercy in one of K2's rooms, where she is offered to execute an old hermit man by pumping the air out of his cell.

But in general, I agree, Tess has not been seen so far in a tendency to bloody effects and mostly preferred psychological effects, which can impress much more..It's enough to remember the same scene on Juliette's yacht (Dom route).

BTW, I can't say I'm very happy about the presence of a guillotine stained with someone's fresh blood, which has already been glimpsed several times in the new screenshots of Dom from pt2..Sure, maybe it's just for entourage and atmosphere, but not a fact. Especially when Juliette is present in the same room.