VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Stan5851]

You could be on to something here for sure. We circle back around to the who and where but a potential spy? Very possibly, even likely (originally) perhaps. Do the Karlsson's know who she really is? Again, also possibly given their respources etc etc. Tess says in Silver's other screenshot that she can potentially 'move'. Move? Move faction...desert the DeKocks? Who actually already knows for Delilah to 'find out'? Pretty sure no one in the DeKocks will give that info up freely....

Well, from what we've seen (in particular, the scene in the submarine cabin where Cynthia talks to Delilah, Stefan and Nadia), we can make a tentative conclusion that Delilah may well betray (if she hasn't already) Cynthia, since it's obvious that there are serious contradictions and disagreements between them. And, to all appearances, Delilah has been playing her own game for a long time, covering herself with the well-known legend that she is a representative of DeKocks, somehow working for the Karlsons and enjoying special privileges...And it's not a fact that Delilah is a double agent, her game could be even more subtle and convoluted.

As for “when she finds out”... I don't know exactly what that might be either, but given that Silver quoted Tess' words about Delilah's flexibility...we can assume that we're talking about the good old KG character flexibility rating that Tess presented in this thread...And in this case her flexibility is quite confirmed by what we see in this list.(given the probably rather polar to each other WS A and C).

 

[Stan5851]

Nadia is definitely Kane's half-sister, not his cousin or whatever. On the submissive path, Phoebe tells Kane that he has a sister.

Also, I think the grey masked woman with Callista might actually be Nadia's mother. It does make sense that both mothers of Cole's children are there for his rescue mission. I zoomed in on her eyes and they're green -- same as Nadia's, and she definitely didn't get her green eyes from her dad.

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She might be someone quite important too. Nadia says to Otto, "So bad... staring at the half naked body of your boss' precious daughter." I assumed Otto worked for Cynthia, but I guess it's actually her that he works for?

A half-sister wouldn't be as genuinely concerned about her brother as Nadia is...Plus, knowing the nature of our game, if they didn't have parents in common, there would probably be the possibility of an affair or at least sex with her...I don't know about the sub route, but on the Dom route, Nadia is just not on the LI list.. In general, it is already clear from the dialogs and hints in the same scen with Veronica and Nadia that she is very close to Kane, as only a real sister can be close to him...

As for the “gray mask” next to the probable Callista (the scene of the DeKocks meeting when they arrive to the Karlssons in a submarine)...well, this is a debatable question..personally, I tend to think that this is actually either Clara or Karin (siblings of the late Alexander)..

 

[kinkyshin]

A half-sister wouldn't be as genuinely concerned about her brother as Nadia is...Plus, knowing the nature of our game, if they didn't have parents in common, there would probably be the possibility of an affair or at least sex with her...I don't know about the sub route, but on the Dom route, Nadia is just not on the LI list.. In general, it is already clear from the dialogs and hints in the same scen with Veronica and Nadia that she is very close to Kane, as only a real sister can be close to him...

A half-sister IS a real sister lol.

You're not confusing half-sister with step-sister, are you?

As for the “gray mask” next to the probable Callista (the scene of the DeKocks meeting when they arrive to the Karlssons in a submarine)...well, this is a debatable question..personally, I tend to think that this is actually either Clara or Karin (siblings of the late Alexander)..

Hey, you know it's possible that we're both right?

Cole + Callista = Kane
Cole + Clara/Karin = Nadia !?

I suppose Delilah could be one of Alexander's sister's children too. Re-reading the boat scene, it's weird how both Nadia and Delilah refer to Cynthia as their mother when at least Nadia definitely knows that Cynthia isn't her mom.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Oft discussed. Until Tess reveals it it's all guess work.... My bet is she is in/or was a similar position to Olivia. Cyntha either 'took her' as payment or to ensure someone did something or she (for once) did a nice thing and took her under wing as a child. She definitely ain't a DeCock though, that's for sure.

I seem to have stimulated a good conversation, me like. But my real question about the Dekocks was, how long until Stefan makes his move? Originally, Stefan was the Dekock heir, but according to Cynthia, he shouldn't feel too comfortable in that role, which would imply that Kane could possibly take over. I can't imagine that Stefan would ignore such a threat.

I like the theory that Nadia is one of the twin's daughters, which now adds a new wrinkle. We originally thought that Alexander was pissed at Cole for being with Callista; what if his actual anger at Cole was for knocking up his sister? The more I think about motives, the more I believe that Callista having a son serves his purposes much better since he can only have daughters. Who better than his brilliant best friend to impregnate Callista to ensure worthy offspring? If she had a daughter, would he have trapped her? Something to consider.

Nadia is definitely Kane's half-sister, not his cousin or whatever. On the submissive path, Phoebe tells Kane that he has a sister.

Also, I think the grey masked woman with Callista might actually be Nadia's mother. It does make sense that both mothers of Cole's children are there for his rescue mission.

Callista is there for her son and only her son. I'm not even sure either woman knows that Cole is alive until they find out about him once they reach the island. Likely thanks to Nadia's hacking.

 

[ZoeySwitch]

In fairness, Mav, Mr. Switch, with his, "As a switch let me educate you" post, has done an adequate job of showing me his "Dom" side. Perhaps an even better effort at demonstrating his "Sub" side in another post could convince me that a "Switch" can be more than just a cut sapling... Jus' Sayin'

I'm not a Mr. I don't need to prove anything, unlike Olivia or even the MC. Also if a switch doesn't exist or a person can't be a Dom and a sub why then have we got a Dom MC but is referred to only by Allesandra as a sub?. I made a mixture of Dom and sub choices for the MC. It is the only way the MC can be on her route. She won't submit to any man, which is a bit of a joke because she is quite submissive to the MC if on the Celeste's cucks her bf path.

 

[motseer]

I'm not a Mr. I don't need to prove anything, unlike Olivia or even the MC. Also if a switch doesn't exist or a person can't be a Dom and a sub why then have we got a Dom MC but is referred to only by Allesandra as a sub?. I made a mixture of Dom and sub choices for the MC. It is the only way the MC can be on her route. She won't submit to any man, which is a bit of a joke because she is quite submissive to the MC if on the Celeste's cucks her bf path.

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[Dark Quean Olivia]

Also if a switch doesn't exist or a person can't be a Dom and a sub why then have we got a Dom MC but is referred to only by Allesandra as a sub?

DomKane is not a Dom. Get that out of your head straight away.

It is the only way the MC can be on her route.

No it isn't. You can have virtually max dom points and still be Alessandra's 'secret sub'. All it takes it is two correct decisions when with Olivia when she wants you to massage her (or go from K4 to K5 at the first appraisal).

You're really not doing yourself any favours at all here when you cannot even get basic information correct and you wonder why no one is taking you seriously? Time after time, after time people suddenly pop up in this thread with their wittering and ranting when it's plainly obvious they never actually paid attention.

 

[Maviarab]

On the submissive path, Phoebe tells Kane that he has a sister.

Correct.

Also, I think the grey masked woman with Callista might actually be Nadia's mother. It does make sense that both mothers of Cole's children are there for his rescue mission. I zoomed in on her eyes and they're green -- same as Nadia's, and she definitely didn't get her green eyes from her dad.

Hmmm...now that would be interesting...and as valid a theory as any other...

As for “when she finds out”... I don't know exactly what that might be either, but given that Silver quoted Tess' words about Delilah's flexibility...we can assume that we're talking about the good old KG character flexibility rating that Tess presented in this thread...And in this case her flexibility is quite confirmed by what we see in this list.(given the probably rather polar to each other WS A and C).

No, sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant when she find out she is not a DeKock...

I seem to have stimulated a good conversation, me like. But my real question about the Dekocks was, how long until Stefan makes his move? Originally, Stefan was the Dekock heir, but according to Cynthia, he shouldn't feel too comfortable in that role, which would imply that Kane could possibly take over. I can't imagine that Stefan would ignore such a threat.

Ehhh...no, I can't imagine he would be no however, I'd also say, from what (little admittedly) we have seen so far....he really doesn't seem the type to do much about it either and I think Cynthia realises/knows this, he is not a strong man...he is not a powerful man...if Kane becomes that...

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[Stan5851]

A half-sister IS a real sister lol.

You're not confusing half-sister with step-sister, are you?

No, I am not confused, but my DeepL translator can. (if you don't know yet, English is not my native language and before sending a message I check it through this service)..It would probably (regarding Nadia) be more accurate to write “sibling” or “blood sister”.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Ehhh...no, I can't imagine he would be no however, I'd also say, from what (little admittedly) we have seen so far....he really doesn't seem the type to do much about it either and I think Cynthia realises/knows this, he is not a strong man...he is not a powerful man...if Kane becomes that...

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Spoiler: Gotta love the steel cold eyes...

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[Maviarab]

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Have been pondering this a little since your first post bringing him up...

If we 'assume' that both Stefan and Nadia 'know' that Delilah is not a DeKock...then maybe it's him who spills the beans to her...in an effort to cause chaos and disruption (knowing she will probably fly off the handle) so he can use that to further his own position, like a power play against certain characters....while sort of effectively, keeping his own hands clean.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

LMAO no idea how I hid my stuff behind your spoiler button, but it works... somehow.

 

[Stan5851]

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Well, I like that look in Juliette's eyes and that pose better. And the sooner she gets used to it, the better.

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One day my KaneDom will beat the shit out of her and that look will never get off her face...Ofc, I'll have Veronica make her a special fidelity belt with built-in adjustable powerful vibrators with a shock function..It will also automatically inject powerful aphrodisiacs..And then Juliette won't have time to plot her own schemes.

And later, sitting obediently on a leash near Kane's throne, all she'll be able to do is beg to be allowed to cum. But who knows if Kane will be merciful to her?

 

[Maviarab]

Well, I like that look in Juliette's eyes and that pose better. And the sooner she gets used to it, the better.

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One day my KaneDom will beat the shit out of her and that look will never get off her face...Ofc, I'll have Veronica make her a special fidelity belt with built-in adjustable powerful vibrators with a shock function..It will also automatically inject powerful aphrodisiacs..And then Juliette won't have time to plot her own schemes.

And later, sitting obediently on a leash beside Kane's throne, all she'll be able to do is beg to be allowed to cum. But who knows if Kane will be merciful to her?

 

[motseer]

(Juliette) sitting obediently on a leash beside Kane's throne, all she'll be able to do is beg to be allowed to cum. But who knows if Kane will be merciful to her?

We agree on a lot of things but, part ways on this... IMHO Juliette doesn't even deserve a chance to be a good slave. Best to rid the world of her influence and be done with it... Perhaps she could serve a noble purpose as an example of how NOT to behave.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Well, I like that look in Juliette's eyes and that pose better. And the sooner she gets used to it, the better.

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One day my KaneDom will beat the shit out of her and that look will never get off her face...Ofc, I'll have Veronica make her a special fidelity belt with built-in adjustable powerful vibrators with a shock function..It will also automatically inject powerful aphrodisiacs..And then Juliette won't have time to plot her own schemes.

And later, sitting obediently on a leash near Kane's throne, all she'll be able to do is beg to be allowed to cum. But who knows if Kane will be merciful to her?

You are all sick, demented people.

 

[motseer]

You are all sick, demented people.

Right? Who woulda thunk it...

 

[Maviarab]

You are all sick, demented people.

Tell us how you really feel SS

 

[Igetby]

I decided early on that Juliette is entirely to hot to punish. My main playthrough will be a ride or die with Veronica where ever that takes me. The second will be one through the depths of hell with Juliette.

Having only discovered the game a little over a month ago I keep wondering if I need to read this entire thread. To avoid getting my head chopped off for asking a question someone answered on page 43.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Tell us how you really feel SS

Leave Britney blonde angel alone!