VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[jadepaladin]

My brain was squeezing it self seeing the word canon so many times Its personally whatever you want to be in a game like this

Also Cynthia is a faction leader for Sub Kane in WS C.. Assuming she’ll want to take over as the dominant head… so food for thought there…

It could be worse. You ever seen cannon used instead?

 

[Maviarab]

It could be worse. You ever seen cannon used instead?

Tried to use it once...didn't like it. Kept my Minolta.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

heres a canon question. Is Kane canon smart or a canon meathead.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

heres a canon question. Is Kane canon smart or a canon meathead.

My Answer

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[Hazardgaming]

I’m not overly convinced that Callista actually has a plan. She raised Olivia.. whom in my game is the personification of evil. It’s likely even worse in the slave/servant path(s).

Callista blames Olivia’s behaviour on Alexander’s DNA rather than the 20 odd years that she spent raising her. Sure.. it’s all Alexander’s fault. Those are some impressive accountability dodging skills.

The real question is whether Callista is lying about the supposed “kill switch” or if she planted it there herself.

It’s all Alexander’s fault.. he did it!


I also like how Elena asks Kane if he enjoyed himself during the game show nonsense, even if you outright reject any and all participation. She then says how the Karlsson Group survived even Alexander, when she and the other women are gleefully murdering and torturing.. those are some impressive self reflection skills Elena. Almost as impressive as Callista’s.


As for Kane being smart or not. The guy hasn’t been portrayed as being overly bright, as no matter how many characters drop hints.. he just doesn’t seem to get any of it.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

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OMG you scared me. I saw that red hair and thought you was pulling juliette style punishment tactics on me.

 

[harsha_26]

1. The revolution is a backup plan just in case Kane is as rotten as the sisters. I doubt that Astrid would screw over her own sister. As of now they're under the assumption he isnt so they're just putting things in place.

2. Cynthia is the dominique version of a good person. She's raising two kids that arent hers and she wiants to protect Kane. Yet, she considers poor people beneath her . which is why she treated that waiter like that.

3. She does but she's more concerned with the greater good of all people not just her scene. She's willing to put her son in danger to ensure the safety of the world and it's inhabitants

Greater good.. Yeah fuck her.. Dumbwit Queen.

 

[Stan5851]

heres a canon question. Is Kane canon smart or a canon meathead.

My Answer.

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Time will tell if he's smart and determined enough to one day become Z5, lead a Сorporation, and conquer all those cock-hungry bitches. But this guy definitely got smarter in 0.8.2. So I have faith in D.Kane, this finally wised up guy will cope and prevail with the support of my lovely (and canon to me) good Olivia.

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[Stan5851]

Greater good.. Yeah fuck her.. Dumbwit Queen.

Miles is too prejudiced against Callista. As I've written many times before, we need a thorough heart-to-heart between her and Kane, only there can we understand her intentions and whether she's guilty of anything. As far as I'm concerned, no, she's not. Kane was able to reach K9 in only 1 week and is one step away from getting K10->M, which is a direct path to executive Z ranks.

That being said, Callista did not prepare him for this program in any special way by giving him insider information on the Karlssons like she did for Olivia.

Ofc, those who decided to throw Kane down the stairs to the stinking basement and condemn him to be a slave might have different thoughts about Callista, but in the end, it was their choice to remain a confident guy who wasn't afraid to stand up for his family and even suffer for it in prison, or to voluntarily become a slave. So Callista did what she could, and then it's up to us.

 

[harsha_26]

I’m not overly convinced that Callista actually has a plan. She raised Olivia.. whom in my game is the personification of evil. It’s likely even worse in the slave/servant path(s).

Callista blames Olivia’s behaviour on Alexander’s DNA rather than the 20 odd years that she spent raising her. Sure.. it’s all Alexander’s fault. Those are some impressive accountability dodging skills.

The real question is whether Callista is lying about the supposed “kill switch” or if she planted it there herself.

It’s all Alexander’s fault.. he did it!


I also like how Elena asks Kane if he enjoyed himself during the game show nonsense, even if you outright reject any and all participation. She then says how the Karlsson Group survived even Alexander, when she and the other women are gleefully murdering and torturing.. those are some impressive self reflection skills Elena. Almost as impressive as Callista’s.


As for Kane being smart or not. The guy hasn’t been portrayed as being overly bright, as no matter how many characters drop hints.. he just doesn’t seem to get any of it.

Oh elena.. Yeah fuck her too. My most hated characters in the entire game of all paths are
Elena as first and
Callista as second.

Most loving character of all paths -
All Hail Nadia. I know she is bit of a sadist, but when it comes to Decocks family, she cares so much than Callista or her so called best friend Elena.

Why can't Elena on hanging brridge conversation with Callista as something like - "Sorry Callista for humiliating your son and literally treating like a trash and furniture. But I enjoyed it very much. That scene where she put him in inside car decker and the games with VIPs particularly, made me so happy". So much for friendship with Callista.


And she is nothing better in Dom path too. She only cares about Olivia. All board members are evil ans wants to maintain slavery as status quo. I think best path is to go for evil Dom and treat all the board members as shit.

Nadia: Kill all the Karlssons.
Callista: Leave Hate, look for the future. (The so called self righteous queen while son is suffering with brutal, torchured slavery).
Nadia: Sorry, I can't be you.

Thank you Nadia not agreeing with the ~Gambit~ Dumbwit Queen.

 

[Stan5851]

It's an interesting scientific fact: for the most part, Callista is hated only by those players who voluntarily decided to make Kane a slave. Everyone else either approves of Callista's actions or has taken a wait-and-see attitude, waiting for a long overdue heart-to-heart talk withwith mutual hugs, explanations and apologies.

BTW, when I wasn't banned in Tess's discord, she wrote that Callista would fight to the last man for sub Kane. So if you're a sub player, know that mommy is there to save your sub Kane's ass (unless you do everything you can to make sure that doesn't happen).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I learned my lesson about clicking on Stan spoilers. NTY.

Miles is too prejudiced against Callista. As I've written many times before, we need a thorough heart-to-heart between her and Kane, only there can we understand her intentions and whether she's guilty of anything. As far as I'm concerned, no, she's not. Kane was able to reach K9 in only 1 week and is one step away from getting K10->M, which is a direct path to executive Z ranks.

That being said, Callista did not prepare him for this program in any special way by giving him insider information on the Karlssons like she did for Olivia.

Ofc, those who decided to throw Kane down the stairs to the stinking basement and condemn him to be a slave might have different thoughts about Callista, but in the end, it was their choice to remain a confident guy who wasn't afraid to stand up for his family and even suffer for it in prison, or to voluntarily become a slave. So Callista did what she could, and then it's up to us.

I try to give her the benefit of the doubt, but the more we learn about how little control that alexander had at the end, the more it becomes apparent that this wasnt about Alexander or his threats.

 

[Hazardgaming]

It's an interesting scientific fact: for the most part, Callista is hated only by those players who voluntarily decided to make Kane a slave. Everyone else either approves of Callista's actions or has taken a wait-and-see attitude, waiting for a long overdue heart-to-heart talk withwith mutual hugs, explanations and apologies.

BTW, when I wasn't banned in Tess's discord, she wrote that Callista would fight to the last man for sub Kane. So if you're a sub player, know that mommy is there to save your sub Kane's ass (unless you do everything you can to make sure that doesn't happen).

I disapprove of what Callista has done as I value everyone’s freedom above all other things (even the survival of humanity). Had she asked Kane and planned it with him.. then I’d have been largely on board with Kane being a fake sadist and trying to climb the ranks.

As it stands, I’ll just have him be a K9 who refuses to be a willing participant of the insanity.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I disapprove of what Callista has done as I value everyone’s freedom above all other things (even the survival of humanity). Had she asked Kane and planned it with him.. then I’d have been largely on board with Kane being a fake sadist and trying to climb the ranks.

As it stands, I’ll just have him be a K9 who refuses to be a willing participant of the insanity.

Its like a whole list of things that she's done at the same time
1. The aforementioned forced participation in the gambit
2. Faking her death
3. Refusing to tell him who his father is
4. Keeping him from one side of his family
5. not even training him to excel in the gambit.

Now one or two things I can excuse, but it keeps piling up.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

It's an interesting scientific fact: for the most part, Callista is hated only by those players who voluntarily decided to make Kane a slave. Everyone else either approves of Callista's actions or has taken a wait-and-see attitude, waiting for a long overdue heart-to-heart talk withwith mutual hugs, explanations and apologies.

BTW, when I wasn't banned in Tess's discord, she wrote that Callista would fight to the last man for sub Kane. So if you're a sub player, know that mommy is there to save your sub Kane's ass (unless you do everything you can to make sure that doesn't happen).

Not sure I know any sub player that’s has outwardly showed disdain for Callista… I know for a fact that She’ll go farther for sub Kane than Cole…

 

[Maviarab]

Not sure I know any sub player that’s has outwardly showed disdain for Callista… I know for a fact that She’ll go farther for sub Kane than Cole… View attachment 4987177

Yup...Cole be all like....Man up Kane-san.

 

[Stan5851]

I learned my lesson about clicking on Stan spoilers. NTY.

Miles, it's just Tess and Liv. I like Silver's jokes with V's close-ups, but that's not the case, haha.

I disapprove of what Callista has done as I value everyone’s freedom above all other things (even the survival of humanity). Had she asked Kane and planned it with him..

That's why we need this heart-to-heart talk where Kane can hear from Callista all the explanations we've been waiting for.

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Yeah, that's exactly the phrase I was referring to. Although, admittedly, Callista's gonna have a hard time explaining things to sub Kane.

 

[Hazardgaming]

Miles, it's just Tess and Liv. I like Silver's jokes with V's close-ups, but that's not the case, haha.

That's why we need this heart-to-heart talk where Kane can hear from Callista all the explanations we've been waiting for.

Perhaps, but I just don’t see an explanation that covers the reason why she couldn’t have reached out to Veronica and made a deal. Which is exactly what Astrid argued for and what is happening.. except Kane isn’t excluded from the Gambit in this case and for some reason Callista isn’t pushing for it.

It would have been one thing if Veronica and everyone else absolutely loved Alexander or despised Callista. It’s why I wasn’t fond of her being the Gambit Queen.. she has easy access to Veronica, she’s well liked beyond Elena’s initial anger and she knows just about everything that is going to happen.

Let’s say that Kane does have some kill switch or bomb inside of him. It’s obviously going to be Veronica that disables it, as she has better knowledge regarding both biology and technology.

Alexander has no leverage considering that he’s both dead and unliked. His last will and testament means nothing beyond whatever Veronica decides to enforce.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Yeah, that's exactly the phrase I was referring to. Although, admittedly, Callista's gonna have a hard time explaining things to sub Kane.

Ironically enough, sub kane would be most likely to accept her explanation

 

[harsha_26]

Its like a whole list of things that she's done at the same time
1. The aforementioned forced participation in the gambit
2. Faking her death
3. Refusing to tell him who his father is
4. Keeping him from one side of his family
5. not even training him to excel in the gambit.

Now one or two things I can excuse, but it keeps piling up.

Raising Kane and Olivia like bro and sis for many years and now wants them to fuck other. And you see her dialogue with veronica.. "I maximised the odds of keeping them together" lol.

As I said, she is the most overhyped so called self righteous, "I know all" aka **Dumbwit Queen**.