VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[harsha_26]

Wow, I didn't know my bad english would disturb everyone lol. Sorry guys. Now I understand why tess never revealed what is canon.

 

[harsha_26]

I admit k1 is a bit stress. Yeah his mother never thought him how to survive but atleast taught him how to feminine and love and enjoy. So, as long as he being a sub and continues to satisfy the mistresses, especially olivia and be careful with mistress like Julliate, he won't end up as dead. And he can be happy too because of the upbringing, his mother always taught to follow the female (olivia) and support her. And that's how k4 path will run and rise.. So yeah, sub-MC (not slave MC) feels more natural and canon.

And yeah, that concludes that unfortunately Dom paths are just a after thought and may be a "what if" Scenario. This all makes sense if you Observe the story and faction sheets. MC never meant to be a king.

Yes, Alexander needs a male heir but rest of the world, even decocks and new Paris are habituated with femdom and slavery and wants to maintain that status quo. And we know who is trying so hard to maintain the status quo. The so called "soft" Karlsson's mistress "Dominique" and the brutal juli is her loyal sister. That's why we have threesome scene (actually five some) in Dom path last update with those two sisters.

Veronica is pragmatic. She plays by the situation but her ultimate goal is island4. And its proved in upcoming spin off game (although tess clarified that no path is canon. Spin off game is just a one possibility).

That leaves Alessandra.

Even through callista agreed to put him under programme, after alexander died, why MC is still in the program? Who are those "two women" who trapped him jail? Evil Dom MC is a choice to kill him and that's how you get "demon" Stat (but tess is dropping that stat for whatever reason). Why Callista not trying to get him out?

Again, Alessandra Alessandra Alessandra.
Why you think she don't have romance path for absolute DOM MC?

 

[jadepaladin]

Wow, I didn't know my bad english would disturb everyone lol. Sorry guys. Now I understand why tess never revealed what is canon.

You're fine. Saying things are canon is just easy bait. Don't worry about it too much.

 

[harsha_26]

The game does have a Canon ending to apply to future game. It actually has two canons, one sub one dom, that will be a throuple of Olivia and Veronica(based on hints in discord). This is the Canon for the future game TQA. But Miss Tess also said don't get too caught up in canon and just pick what you want or enjoy.

One sub and one Dom.. So, may be we have to select a initial option of how MC end up with olivia and veronica. Dom & Sub.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

You're fine. Saying things are canon is just easy bait. Don't worry about it too much.

My brain was squeezing it self seeing the word canon so many times Its personally whatever you want to be in a game like this

Also Cynthia is a faction leader for Sub Kane in WS C.. Assuming she’ll want to take over as the dominant head… so food for thought there…

 

[honeryx]

I tried to have saves of different ranks. I don't consider any of them intelligence based at all. For the most part it's just callous self survival that raises your rank. Shows of "power" and selfishness are dressed up as intelligence. When I first played this game I actually thought it was social commentary on our world, but later on I began to think I was reading that into it. I can't definitively state it one way or the other, just I haven't seen anyone else mention that so I lean towards the latter.

I still do want to see the project finished, and think at some point all the parts being combined into one long game is going to end up as something special for an AVN (It already is of course, but even moreso), but ultimately it's still just an indie AVN. Just something for fun that doesn't really mean anything more than that. Anyway that's my own personal opinion and stance on it in general.

 

[jadepaladin]

My brain was squeezing it self seeing the word canon so many times Its personally whatever you want to be in a game like this

Also Cynthia is a faction leader for Sub Kane in WS C.. Assuming she’ll want to take over as the dominant head… so food for thought there…

It could be worse. You ever seen cannon used instead?

 

[Maviarab]

It could be worse. You ever seen cannon used instead?

Tried to use it once...didn't like it. Kept my Minolta.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

heres a canon question. Is Kane canon smart or a canon meathead.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

heres a canon question. Is Kane canon smart or a canon meathead.

My Answer

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[Hazardgaming]

I’m not overly convinced that Callista actually has a plan. She raised Olivia.. whom in my game is the personification of evil. It’s likely even worse in the slave/servant path(s).

Callista blames Olivia’s behaviour on Alexander’s DNA rather than the 20 odd years that she spent raising her. Sure.. it’s all Alexander’s fault. Those are some impressive accountability dodging skills.

The real question is whether Callista is lying about the supposed “kill switch” or if she planted it there herself.

It’s all Alexander’s fault.. he did it!


I also like how Elena asks Kane if he enjoyed himself during the game show nonsense, even if you outright reject any and all participation. She then says how the Karlsson Group survived even Alexander, when she and the other women are gleefully murdering and torturing.. those are some impressive self reflection skills Elena. Almost as impressive as Callista’s.


As for Kane being smart or not. The guy hasn’t been portrayed as being overly bright, as no matter how many characters drop hints.. he just doesn’t seem to get any of it.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

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OMG you scared me. I saw that red hair and thought you was pulling juliette style punishment tactics on me.

 

[harsha_26]

1. The revolution is a backup plan just in case Kane is as rotten as the sisters. I doubt that Astrid would screw over her own sister. As of now they're under the assumption he isnt so they're just putting things in place.

2. Cynthia is the dominique version of a good person. She's raising two kids that arent hers and she wiants to protect Kane. Yet, she considers poor people beneath her . which is why she treated that waiter like that.

3. She does but she's more concerned with the greater good of all people not just her scene. She's willing to put her son in danger to ensure the safety of the world and it's inhabitants

Greater good.. Yeah fuck her.. Dumbwit Queen.

 

[Stan5851]

heres a canon question. Is Kane canon smart or a canon meathead.

My Answer.

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Time will tell if he's smart and determined enough to one day become Z5, lead a Сorporation, and conquer all those cock-hungry bitches. But this guy definitely got smarter in 0.8.2. So I have faith in D.Kane, this finally wised up guy will cope and prevail with the support of my lovely (and canon to me) good Olivia.

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[Stan5851]

Greater good.. Yeah fuck her.. Dumbwit Queen.

Miles is too prejudiced against Callista. As I've written many times before, we need a thorough heart-to-heart between her and Kane, only there can we understand her intentions and whether she's guilty of anything. As far as I'm concerned, no, she's not. Kane was able to reach K9 in only 1 week and is one step away from getting K10->M, which is a direct path to executive Z ranks.

That being said, Callista did not prepare him for this program in any special way by giving him insider information on the Karlssons like she did for Olivia.

Ofc, those who decided to throw Kane down the stairs to the stinking basement and condemn him to be a slave might have different thoughts about Callista, but in the end, it was their choice to remain a confident guy who wasn't afraid to stand up for his family and even suffer for it in prison, or to voluntarily become a slave. So Callista did what she could, and then it's up to us.

 

[harsha_26]

I’m not overly convinced that Callista actually has a plan. She raised Olivia.. whom in my game is the personification of evil. It’s likely even worse in the slave/servant path(s).

Callista blames Olivia’s behaviour on Alexander’s DNA rather than the 20 odd years that she spent raising her. Sure.. it’s all Alexander’s fault. Those are some impressive accountability dodging skills.

The real question is whether Callista is lying about the supposed “kill switch” or if she planted it there herself.

It’s all Alexander’s fault.. he did it!


I also like how Elena asks Kane if he enjoyed himself during the game show nonsense, even if you outright reject any and all participation. She then says how the Karlsson Group survived even Alexander, when she and the other women are gleefully murdering and torturing.. those are some impressive self reflection skills Elena. Almost as impressive as Callista’s.


As for Kane being smart or not. The guy hasn’t been portrayed as being overly bright, as no matter how many characters drop hints.. he just doesn’t seem to get any of it.

Oh elena.. Yeah fuck her too. My most hated characters in the entire game of all paths are
Elena as first and
Callista as second.

Most loving character of all paths -
All Hail Nadia. I know she is bit of a sadist, but when it comes to Decocks family, she cares so much than Callista or her so called best friend Elena.

Why can't Elena on hanging brridge conversation with Callista as something like - "Sorry Callista for humiliating your son and literally treating like a trash and furniture. But I enjoyed it very much. That scene where she put him in inside car decker and the games with VIPs particularly, made me so happy". So much for friendship with Callista.


And she is nothing better in Dom path too. She only cares about Olivia. All board members are evil ans wants to maintain slavery as status quo. I think best path is to go for evil Dom and treat all the board members as shit.

Nadia: Kill all the Karlssons.
Callista: Leave Hate, look for the future. (The so called self righteous queen while son is suffering with brutal, torchured slavery).
Nadia: Sorry, I can't be you.

Thank you Nadia not agreeing with the ~Gambit~ Dumbwit Queen.

 

[Stan5851]

It's an interesting scientific fact: for the most part, Callista is hated only by those players who voluntarily decided to make Kane a slave. Everyone else either approves of Callista's actions or has taken a wait-and-see attitude, waiting for a long overdue heart-to-heart talk withwith mutual hugs, explanations and apologies.

BTW, when I wasn't banned in Tess's discord, she wrote that Callista would fight to the last man for sub Kane. So if you're a sub player, know that mommy is there to save your sub Kane's ass (unless you do everything you can to make sure that doesn't happen).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I learned my lesson about clicking on Stan spoilers. NTY.

Miles is too prejudiced against Callista. As I've written many times before, we need a thorough heart-to-heart between her and Kane, only there can we understand her intentions and whether she's guilty of anything. As far as I'm concerned, no, she's not. Kane was able to reach K9 in only 1 week and is one step away from getting K10->M, which is a direct path to executive Z ranks.

That being said, Callista did not prepare him for this program in any special way by giving him insider information on the Karlssons like she did for Olivia.

Ofc, those who decided to throw Kane down the stairs to the stinking basement and condemn him to be a slave might have different thoughts about Callista, but in the end, it was their choice to remain a confident guy who wasn't afraid to stand up for his family and even suffer for it in prison, or to voluntarily become a slave. So Callista did what she could, and then it's up to us.

I try to give her the benefit of the doubt, but the more we learn about how little control that alexander had at the end, the more it becomes apparent that this wasnt about Alexander or his threats.

 

[Hazardgaming]

It's an interesting scientific fact: for the most part, Callista is hated only by those players who voluntarily decided to make Kane a slave. Everyone else either approves of Callista's actions or has taken a wait-and-see attitude, waiting for a long overdue heart-to-heart talk withwith mutual hugs, explanations and apologies.

BTW, when I wasn't banned in Tess's discord, she wrote that Callista would fight to the last man for sub Kane. So if you're a sub player, know that mommy is there to save your sub Kane's ass (unless you do everything you can to make sure that doesn't happen).

I disapprove of what Callista has done as I value everyone’s freedom above all other things (even the survival of humanity). Had she asked Kane and planned it with him.. then I’d have been largely on board with Kane being a fake sadist and trying to climb the ranks.

As it stands, I’ll just have him be a K9 who refuses to be a willing participant of the insanity.