VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[ramvivat]

How many people do you think you can feed with that tiny island soil? And even in that soil crops seem to fare worse and worse...

The mechanism of soil formation can be explained on the fingers like this: rocks are chipped and crushed under the influence of external forces of nature, the impact of flora and fauna. The crushed stones contain the remains of plants and animals, waste products of their vital activity. All this begins to rot under the influence of bacteria, and various microorganisms and worms settle here. They increase the fertility of the soil, process it.

bacteria and worms are taken from the island as part of the "living soil" - I think the island will perfectly tolerate "bleeding" in the form of a one-time donation of several dozen cubic meters of fertile soil, which remains to be mixed with ordinary dead soil and the target field is filled with this. to improve fertility, the soil is mixed with fertilizer (human shit). sown with seeds. seeds are taken from the "doomsday vault" on the Spitsbergen archipelago.
itadakimasu! and no need to reinvent the wheel! =)

 

[Stan5851]

yea we def know callista is thought to be alive when Alexander is near death cuz veronica even tells him she wouldn't want to see him. It all comes back to the why. My current theory is that she faked her death for Kane's benefit; pretty much everybody of importance but Kane, and possibly Dom and Juliette, know she's alive at this point.

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[The_Man_With_No_Name]

The mechanism of soil formation can be explained on the fingers like this: rocks are chipped and crushed under the influence of external forces of nature, the impact of flora and fauna. The crushed stones contain the remains of plants and animals, waste products of their vital activity. All this begins to rot under the influence of bacteria, and various microorganisms and worms settle here. They increase the fertility of the soil, process it.

bacteria and worms are taken from the island as part of the "living soil" - I think the island will perfectly tolerate "bleeding" in the form of a one-time donation of several dozen cubic meters of fertile soil, which remains to be mixed with ordinary dead soil and the target field is filled with this. to improve fertility, the soil is mixed with fertilizer (human shit). sown with seeds. seeds are taken from the "doomsday vault" on the Spitsbergen archipelago.
itadakimasu! and no need to reinvent the wheel! =)

Soil is fucked up from a global ecological disaster. Almost the whole planet is uninhabitable. The nature of it is such that even by trying to replenish nutrients it doesn't last long for subsequent crop rotation. They found uncorrupted soil under ice that they are trying to use as a base to develop more uncorrupted soil.

Ultimately though let's not get too autistic about everything or else no fiction would make sense.

 

[Stan5851]

The mechanism of soil formation can be explained on the fingers like this: rocks are chipped and crushed under the influence of external forces of nature, the impact of flora and fauna. The crushed stones contain the remains of plants and animals, waste products of their vital activity. All this begins to rot under the influence of bacteria, and various microorganisms and worms settle here. They increase the fertility of the soil, process it.

bacteria and worms are taken from the island as part of the "living soil" - I think the island will perfectly tolerate "bleeding" in the form of a one-time donation of several dozen cubic meters of fertile soil, which remains to be mixed with ordinary dead soil and the target field is filled with this. to improve fertility, the soil is mixed with fertilizer (human shit). sown with seeds. seeds are taken from the "doomsday vault" on the Spitsbergen archipelago.
itadakimasu! and no need to reinvent the wheel! =)

Mechanisms that work in our still-living world may simply not be suitable for the post-apocalyptic world in which the events of the game take place. If it were that simple, Cole wouldn't have been working on his project for so many years, and the scientists in JF's labs wouldn't be fiddling with all these plants that barely grow and require very unconventional fertilizer in the form of living people.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

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She knew it was only a chance for a positive outcome which for her was better than him getting wacked. She hoped for better for him and laments his suffering but saw it as the only way to keep him safe (unless he gets k1). She still hopes that even in the sub state he can get an alliance through Olivia for a better future even as a servant. That's more or less what she says to Elena on the bridge for Sub path.

 

[Stan5851]

She knew it was only a chance for a positive outcome which for her was better than him getting wacked. She hoped for better for him and laments his suffering but saw it as the only way to keep him safe (unless he gets k1). She still hopes that even in the sub state he can get an alliance through Olivia for a better future even as a servant.

But it still doesn't answer the question of how Kane (Dom or sub) was helped by Callista's faked death.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

But it still doesn't answer the question of how Kane (Dom or sub) was helped by Callista's faked death.

I don't know. "She's the world's smartest person " just like "Olivia is the world's greatest actress"

She has such an impact by her presence in that world that it would only help Kane by being around. She's not Alex so she shouldn't care about looking unfair and giving Kane an edge, especially when the sisters have home-field advantage. So I can't think of anything.

Until a good reason is revealed I'll just assume its her 10 dimensional hyper-reality chess that she's playing.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

But it still doesn't answer the question of how Kane (Dom or sub) was helped by Callista's faked death.

Maybe we’ll see that in part 3? Even Kane is asking that question lol

 

[ramvivat]

Mechanisms that work in our still-living world may simply not be suitable for the post-apocalyptic world in which the events of the game take place. If it were that simple, Cole wouldn't have been working on his project for so many years, and the scientists in JF's labs wouldn't be fiddling with all these plants that barely grow and require very unconventional fertilizer in the form of living people.

oh comon! you see your own eyes trees on the island. =) that meand that island have live fertile soil.

 

[Stan5851]

She knew it was only a chance for a positive outcome which for her was better than him getting wacked. She hoped for better for him and laments his suffering but saw it as the only way to keep him safe (unless he gets k1). She still hopes that even in the sub state he can get an alliance through Olivia for a better future even as a servant. That's more or less what she says to Elena on the bridge for Sub path.

I'm certainly not a sub player, but in light of the fact that Callista has a lot of influence and will now still be part of the “saviors of the Earth” -faction B (for both routes -Dom and Sub), imo, it would be correct, if the dev would have given a chance to the high-level sub Kane to “change his mind” and with Callista's help to move to, say, K7(Dom) rank, that wouldn't take a freshly minted Dom Kane to the very top of the power pyramid (Z5), but at least would allow him not to be a slave of these sadistic bitches anymore. I think such help from his mother would remove all questions and would be Callista's best apology for everything.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

I'm certainly not a sub player, but in light of the fact that Callista has a lot of influence and will now still be part of the “saviors of the Earth” -faction B (for both routes -Dom and Sub), imo, it would be correct, if the dev would have given a chance to the high-level sub Kane to “change his mind” and with Callista's help to move to, say, K7(Dom) rank, that wouldn't take a freshly minted Dom Kane to the very top of the power pyramid (Z5), but at least would allow him not to be a slave of these sadistic bitches anymore. I think such help from his mother would remove all questions and would be Callista's best apology for everything.

She claimed in a flash back that no matter what happens or how bad things got for him, she would have plans to help him.(again k1 probably not included )

 

[Stan5851]

oh comon! you see your own eyes trees on the island. =) that meand that island have live fertile soil.

The islands are not the entire African mainland. From what we've been shown, the soil outside the islands is much worse, hence the problems with starvation and stuff..In any case, I don't think it's worth trying to transfer the technology we're used to into a post-apocalyptic world (even if it's called Earth) created by the author's imagination. Sometimes it's better to leave everything as it is, take this world as a given and just enjoy the game.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

The islands are not the entire African mainland. From what we've been shown, the soil outside the islands is much worse, hence the problems with starvation and stuff..In any case, I don't think it's worth trying to transfer the technology we're used to into a post-apocalyptic world (even if it's called Earth) created by the author's imagination. Sometimes it's better to leave everything as it is, take this world as a given and just enjoy the game.

St Helena island has to import agriculture to sustain its population even in our world let alone an apocalyptical one.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

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I think her efforts are to keep Kane alive. Seth is mainly there for Astrid's benefit, so he's safe. My initial theory is that there are only two people around with Callista's blood. If Callista is thought to be dead, it makes Kane that much more valuable to the Karlssons. I know there's more to it, but that's my first hypothesis with the little information we have.

 

[Stan5851]

I think her efforts are to keep Kane alive. Seth is mainly there for Astrid's benefit, so he's safe. My initial theory is that there are only two people around with Callista's blood. If Callista is thought to be dead, it makes Kane that much more valuable to the Karlssons. I know there's more to it, but that's my first hypothesis with the little information we have.

Interesting theory, I had similar thoughts about their unique blood, but I left it until better times. Well, I'll share my theory on that.

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[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Interesting theory, I had similar thoughts about their unique blood, but I left it until better times. Well, I'll share my theory on that.
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Sounds reasonable enough. The only question I have is

Alexander's cover is gone, and now not only Callista, but all her plans to save Kane and Seth's lives may well be jeopardized, for no one will guarantee that Callista had no enemies ready to give an immediate order to find and eliminate her.

who is Callista's enemy that would be in a position to harm her? Dominique and Juliette? I can't think of anyone else.

 

[Stan5851]

Sounds reasonable enough. The only question I have is

who is Callista's enemy that would be in a position to harm her? Dominique and Juliette? I can't think of anyone else.

You don't think the two of them are enough? If Dominique was able to pull off the Cole thing without even Veronica realizing it for a long time, what (theoretically) could stop her from eliminating Callista? And I wouldn't be in a hurry to make Jules a stupid straight arrow, incapable of any meaningful plans..Dominique and Jules could do almost anything. And by the way, note that they are both in the same A faction.

Anyway, I have no other theory that logically explains the faking of Callista's death.¯\_(ツ)_/¯So I too take a seat in the audience and await the revelations of the next updates. Perhaps in pt3 we will have the long awaited conversation with Callista where these things are supposed to be explained.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

You don't think the two of them are enough? If Dominique was able to pull off the Cole thing without even Veronica realizing it for a long time, what (theoretically) could stop her from eliminating Callista? And I wouldn't be in a hurry to make Jules a stupid straight arrow, incapable of any meaningful plans..Dominique and Jules could do almost anything. And by the way, note that they are both in the same A faction.

I wasn't disputing. Just clearly stating who her enemies are and seeing if you could think of anyone else. And yeah Juliette is not stupid, she is just very direct most of the time so her plans usually involve her participating directly.

 

[kinkyshin]

Sounds reasonable enough. The only question I have is

who is Callista's enemy that would be in a position to harm her? Dominique and Juliette? I can't think of anyone else.

Uhh, the lovely ladies of New Paris? Charlotte is no joke. She even knows about Island 4 somehow.

Also, it's possible that Cynthia doesn't even know who is behind the revolution. I can't imagine Cynthia and Callista being too aligned forever. There's a lot to be said about Cynthia. Elena called her evil... Otto implied that he 'serves' Cynthia, but Callista is his true mistress, and he's all about the revolution. Hell, Astrid and Yvette are trying to hide it from Veronica. And the rest of the Karlsson Group is only slowly piecing together that it could be Yvette (someone close to Veronica, but not Veronica herself). Not sure if they're even aware that Astrid is awake. Likely not.

The power rests between Karlsson Group, DeKock Syndicate, and New Paris. Callista has no real power in any of these three groups and she has a glaring weakness which is that she is willing to die for people she considers family. Also, at the start of episode 8 (during the flashback on Cole's birthday or their anniversary or something), she seems to think that she's going to die and that Kane will never forgive her. Doesn't sound too promising.

Also, to Stan, Olivia definitely knows Callista is alive. Her reaction in the latest episode before they have fun with Cassandra tells it all when Kane says "If only Callista was still alive".

 

[PickerLewd]

But it still doesn't answer the question of how Kane (Dom or sub) was helped by Callista's faked death.

I don't see that it helped him in any way, on the contrary, it hurt him.

But Callista is part of the Gambit, one of those who respects its absurd rules, she started the game/gambit by faking her death.

I think Kane would never have gone to prison unjustly with Callista "alive", or the serious financial problems the brothers have as Seth's illness progresses.

So she had to find some way of starting up and activating all the flags.