I always imagined Juliette as the absolute bottom option that you can have for being a sub to someone but while still being alive, I don't think she would bother to kill you like her other slaves because she already has plenty of those, if she takes you in is because you caught her twisted interest, not to kill you (and also because Tess doesn't seem to go that way either).
I Mean she could be in a way... she does have a slave/servant path but she also has a weird romance path for sub Kane, so we'll see how that plays out lol but your right, Kane is a special case and that's important in the grand scheme of things!
So we still have a dom evil route. But we lost the demoness path for Kane with Olivia. We only have a watered down evil path for Juliette.(wanted a rlly evil route).
I always imagined Juliette as the absolute bottom option that you can have for being a sub to someone but while still being alive, I don't think she would bother to kill you like her other slaves because she already has plenty of those, if she takes you in is because you caught her twisted interest, not to kill you (and also because Tess doesn't seem to go that way either).
I could be wrong, but its seems to me that Tess had separated the possible love interests for subKane as 'slave' and 'sub' and there weren't many that fell under the latter (only Veronica, Olivia, Junko, and Claudia were listed). But it seems that she's changed her mind on Juliette and added a special route for subKane to not just be a slave to Juliette, but a submissive lover to her.
So... bottom option in comparison to the other actual sub romances, yes. But still much better than being a slave to anyone else.
Sounds to me like evil Olivia/evil Elena will never get bored of having Kane as a slave. (which was also supposed to the darkest content in the game iirc)
Phoebe treats Harry different for reasons that I personally don't think she would for Sub Kane... Has she humiliated sub Kane? Ofc! he's still in the program, but Phoebe has showed moments to Sub Kane... Not saying in the greatest terms but she wouldn't just kill Kane for the fun of it... And for Celeste, she's a wild card but at the same time, she hasn't really gotten that much development with sub Kane really... But we'll see more of that in this upcoming update so who knows... Kane isn't your average slave/individual... and all the characters know this (Which is why he's treated differently) But in the end we'll see right?
Not sure if that makes you feel relieved or even more sad but yea...
I could be wrong, but its seems to me that Tess had separated the possible love interests for subKane as 'slave' and 'sub' and there weren't many that fell under the latter (only Veronica, Olivia, Junko, and Claudia were listed). But it seems that she's changed her mind on Juliette and added a special route for subKane to not just be a slave to Juliette, but a submissive lover to her.
So... bottom option in comparison to the other actual sub romances, yes. But still much better than being a slave to anyone else.
Sounds to me like evil Olivia/evil Elena will never get bored of having Kane as a slave. (which was also supposed to the darkest content in the game iirc)
Right. I think we mostly agree, you're just a little bit more optimistic than I am about how Celeste/Phoebe would treat Kane is all lol
Yeah we pretty much agree but like you said, I see it as they wouldn’t have romance path but slave route… lol Oh! Also, Chastain has a weird romance path as well! Poor Kane with all the crazy gals out to get him one way or another
I have love/hate relationship with her. I admire her for her story and I always won't hesitate to express it to her. And that's what I done while talking with Tess. When it comes to criticis, we all very well know Tess won't entertain them in anyway and straightly block us without giving any chance. In here, it is different and no longer Tess is a participant here and never going to be anyway.
She will definitely have some sub in her. That's why she is still there for evil dom route so that domKane have a chance to make her submit. Don't you remember the conversation of domKane with Tess cameo on evil dom route?
In Karlsson's sisters, DomKane able to make Dominique, Juli, Olivia as submissive for sure. I mean, it will be mostly on the softer side of submissive action compare to subKane submissive hardcore action. It won't involve harsh maledom. Except whipping for Dominique as Tess said (also Dominique teased that too in 8.2 group sex scene and it will be consensual, she will encourage you to whip her happily).
I don't know alesandra, but veronica is only vanilla romance exclusive for domKane.
See, we all have issues with her on a different basis. But, calling her like that is uncalled. The game's story is still one the best I ever seen in AVNs and you have to atleast give credit to her on that.
Another weekly update, and I am getting much closer to being done with content and moving to editing!
I can admit my wedding stuff is starting to accelerate so I am trying to balance out a bit less design work too as I try and move to get this update out!
My prior week was 121 renders and I am now at 3,420 renders overall.
I am going to list my task list to give the best possible idea where I am overall and my goals (so this is from my own organized notes).
Episode 8.3.1 (Test and Final Version Taskings)
Start/finish last sub scene for Test Version 8.3.1 (starting the scene this week)
Start/finish last dom scene for Test Version 8.3.1
Wrap up started main (all players see) scene for Test Version 8.3.1
---- CONTENT COMPLETE for Test Version 8.3.1
---- Editing ----
Dialogue/script reading 1 script only -- corrections, tweaks, changes
Render Corrections Run 1 (just checking folder files one by one) -- list major/minor/nice to change priority renders
Render Corrections 1 -- Fix/Replace Major Category Renders (typically about 2 percent of all pictures in prior updates)
Dialogue script Run 2 -- playing game and reading dialogue with renders not just script, run 1
Render Corrections 2 -- Fix/Replace Minor Renders
Play Testing Runs 1 & 2 --> Dialogue/Renders/Full Notes/Branching/Checking Flags/Pts/Codes
Music
Play Testing Runs 3 through whatever it takes - notes, running all branches, testing, etc.
Full Editing of everything (whatever it takes) --> Goal of Test Version Alpha State
Play Testers One/Two (dom/sub path separate/first to see version outside of me)
Notes/tweaks from feedback
Play Testers 1-4 (three/four new, two on sub, two on dom)
Notes/tweaks
Anais playtest
Full testing/editing/kitchen sink, Anais/fiance/me/Testers 1-4 (final testing)
Final Changes -- create game version from Renpy file format
Final Testing w/same group as prior (now with compiled game version) last minute changes
----- Release Test Version 8.3.1 -----
More feedback from more people, identify all problems with coding, anything else missed.
Editing phase to fix anything that came up
Add additional large sub scene set piece
Add additional large dom scene set piece
Add all animations
All all final tweaks and new testing same process but usually faster since it's way less to cover (mostly just new content and good feedback from Test Version)
--- Release 8.3.1 ---
A bit of a rough format on this page, but generally the process above.
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I believe I am possibly within a month of being ready for the Test Version. I never like to make hard promises because I never know what can come up (which is the honest answer if anyone is being transparent) in either life or problems with the game/testing itself but I am getting pretty close now. I am being diligent and consistent in trying to finish everything so I am hopeful .
I will try and give a more loosely written update next week -- I wanted to kind of list this out for the record/transparency of where I am and what I am doing overall to try and release an update.
I have decided not to release the "Red Domination" ending and I'd also rather not say why I made that decision. We'll see what happens...
One thing I wanted to share is one of my biggest frustrations ever in KG. So when I first came up with the idea of the game itself, I had a very specific scene I imagined involving a specific dinner environment and a very detailed (tons of people, assets, etc.) set of events happening. In short, I really loved this idea more than any other scene I've thought of or done in this game (it has a sub and dom version). I've tried many times to figure out a way (as far back as I think Episode 4 or 5 even) to do it properly.
I even in the last year tried to consult with someone I consider easily one of the top five adult game developers in the world. Even he was at a loss at how I could pull it off given the Daz program (what we use to make scenes) and how much I wanted to try. So while I'm happy with the scenes I do, I am thinking of just writing this scene down the road as an "alternative" possible scene for fun but we'll see. Not a priority right now, just venting. I'm still thinking about it right now and lamenting not having it come to life. It's been something in my mind for oh... years now and yeah... anyway. Back to business.
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The pictures above in previews are of course from the sub side and a lot (not quite all) of that is optional content as most know that certain kinks I tend to make optional by design as I consider them as a bit stronger. The first image is pure Scarlett (it's THIS big Kane!) and a personality I like writing (I like her for some reason).
The next sub part is not really optional except specific little parts. The dom scene after that will mostly be straightforward based on a few prior things. But generally these are the last two big set pieces to wrap up and from there, it gets a lot more towards wrap up and editing.
It seems that Thad on your avatar is having a bad influence on you. Remember what happened to this naive guy, who trusted Celeste and Alexandra, who, ironically, is one of her in-game alter ego...Trusting a dev who has already broken some of her promises is quite reckless.
