f96zonetrooper

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My problem is not about days in Game, it's about days per update tess release and the gap she takes. So, yeah, even few days in game are like years for us in real life calculation. And yes, i'm 90% sure, it will take 5 more years to complete. And also 95% sure that this game never see it's end.

And you may counter me as "what about other devs, she is doing lot more than them, literally thousands of renders etc..", But at last, when I see the future of the game, it is not that hopeful for me.
If you could choose between a completed shorter game with endings and a longer abandoned game with more content but unfinished story, what would be your choice?

I personally bother not too much with endings and completeness but enjoy the game while there are new updates.
 

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Surely it's a bit premature to speculate Tess will never complete the game when she's reliably been delivering sizeable updates for years now and there's no indication of her noticeably slowing or stalling in output.

I haven't been a huge fan of the last two updates contentwise on the dom side but she's still delivering sizeable updates at a slightly better pace than 1 a year.
 
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If you could choose between a completed shorter game with endings and a longer abandoned game with more content but unfinished story, what would be your choice?

I personally bother not too much with endings and completeness but enjoy the game while there are new updates.
That's your take. But, sorry, I will choose completed short game if I know earlier that the long game going to abandon in future. I want complete feel.
 

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If you could choose between a completed shorter game with endings and a longer abandoned game with more content but unfinished story, what would be your choice?

I personally bother not too much with endings and completeness but enjoy the game while there are new updates.
Assuming both games had a minimum level of quality, I think most would pick the finished game. If I already know a game is confirmed abandoned, I wouldn't even bother trying it as I've already played too many of them.
 
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That's your take. But, sorry, I will choose completed short game if I know earlier that the long game going to abandon in future. I want complete feel.
Assuming both games had a minimum level of quality, I think most would pick the finished game. If I already know a game is confirmed abandoned, I wouldn't even bother trying it as I've already played too many of them.
I don't know if there are many or any comparable "completed" KG-like games? I think it is kind of unique ...
(Note : I know the "Femdom Finder" threads ...)
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KG (E1-E8.2) so far has ca 22k renders and ca 96k lines of script.
see https://f95zone.to/threads/karlssons-gambit-v0-8-2b-final-grym-gudinna-games.50840/post-15939334 for details.
It will be somewhere around 25k-30k renders once Episode 8 is finished. That's impressive.
 

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Surely it's a bit premature to speculate Tess will never complete the game when she's reliably been delivering sizeable updates for years now and there's no indication of her noticeably slowing or stalling in output.

I haven't been a huge fan of the last two updates contentwise on the dom side but she's still delivering sizeable updates at a slightly better pace than 1 a year.
We went from a full chapter a year, to a half-chapter a year, to now approx 1/6 of a chapter a year with her now going through major life events and contributing to another IP. If anything, she'll have less time to dedicate to this project.

At this point, Im just hoping that certain milestones are reached before abandonment. Kane meeting his parents. Actually, at this point thats all I want.
 

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We went from a full chapter a year, to a half-chapter a year, to now approx 1/6 of a chapter a year ...
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You have to take into account that between 2020 and 2025
- the render rate increased from ca 2k to 5k renders per year and
- the render count per update increased from 450 (E1) to 5k (E8.1->E8.2).

01/2025 | 0.8.2 Final | 5001 Static / 115 Animations
02/2024 | 0.8.1 Final | 3311 Static / 37 Anims
04/2023 | 0.7 Final ..l| 4171 Static / 53 Anims
06/2022 | 0.6 Final ..l| 3516 Static / 41 Anims
10/2021 | 0.5 Final ..l| 2162 Static
04/2021 | 0.4 Final ..l| 1750 Static
10/2020 | 0.3 Final ..l| ..993 Static
07/2020 | 0.2 Final ..l| ..653 Static
04/2020 | 0.1 Final ..l| ..450 Static
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Assuming both games had a minimum level of quality, I think most would pick the finished game. If I already know a game is confirmed abandoned, I wouldn't even bother trying it as I've already played too many of them.
Well, I ended up downloading two abandoned games from here, because they really caught my attention. I got to the end of the part where they were abandoned, and felt worse because I liked them so much.

Yeah, I know. What a masochist :devilish:!
Not everyone realises that because one is Dom Kane's path and the dialogue where Elena messes up was in the Sub path, if I recall correctly :LUL:.
 

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Not everyone realises that because one is Dom Kane's path and the dialogue where Elena messes up was in the Sub path, if I recall correctly :LUL:.
The first two are from Dominique's evil path in E6 if Dom Kane is at least a bit evil.

if dominiquestestpass and evil >= 5:
... jump domtheatreevil

The last is from sub path in E7 : purplejoy
 
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Not everyone realises that because one is Dom Kane's path and the dialogue where Elena messes up was in the Sub path, if I recall correctly :LUL:.
Why does it matter if it's the dom or sub path?

At the very least, Veronica, Elena and Yvette all know. That went from only 1 person on the board knows to 3 people on the board knows very fast.

In season 2, Juliette and Dominique are suddenly playing together, so Juliette knows as well. I suppose whether Juliette knew this at the time Dominique made this comment or has only just learned this recently is up for debate. But regardless, by season 2 that's another board member that knows about Dominique's 'secret' nature.

This is just speculation, but do you really think Alessandra doesn't know? Because if she does... then you literally cannot name a board member that doesn't know lol

There's other things too that are mostly speculation though like:

-> Raven says to Kane in season 2 that if he's seen the treatment of Amara, he better not say anything to Kwame or he will get on Dominique's shitlist. Not sure how much she knows, but at the very least this kind of implies that Dominique isn't as nice as she pretends to be and Raven isn't even an executive.

-> Elena made that comment "You're not fooling anyone" when there's a bunch of people in the room. Kind of implies that it's an open secret.

-> Lastly, there's a lot of people (like Kiyomi) that say not to trust any Karlsson. Why would they say that if Dominique was anywhere near as benevolent as she pretends to be? :unsure:
 

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Why does it matter if it's the dom or sub path?
I mean, it's the kind of thing only an all-round player like you would notice :WeSmart:.

Someone who only plays the Dom path, like Stan or Maviarab, will see the scene where Dominique brags about her secret, unaware that almost the entire board knows about it, because they won't see Elena's part.

Someone who plays sub, like Silver, will see Elena's part, but won't understand its full meaning because he won't see the scene in which Dominique brags and reveals her secret to Dom Kane.

By the way, Kane's face in the scene with Dominique screams "rescue me" and "I'm being held captive" :ROFLMAO:.
Just look at his sad, unhappy face, he doesn't want to be there!
 

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I mean, it's the kind of thing only an all-round player like you would notice :WeSmart:.

Someone who only plays the Dom path, like Stan or Maviarab, will see the scene where Dominique brags about her secret, unaware that almost the entire board knows about it, because they won't see Elena's part.

Someone who plays sub, like Silver, will see Elena's part, but won't understand its full meaning because he won't see the scene in which Dominique brags and reveals her secret to Dom Kane.

By the way, Kane's face in the scene with Dominique screams "rescue me" and "I'm being held captive" :ROFLMAO:.
Just look at his sad, unhappy face, he doesn't want to be there!
Ohh, I understand now lol
 
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About Dominique :


In short :
There are 2 dialog passages that show that Kane can and Veronica does push Dominique to change ...
1. In E5 Kane has the option to tell Dominique to be more "selfish" (evil) (which opens the evil Dominique path where later Kane can whip Mercy).
2. In E6 Veronica tells Dominique that she does not consider supporting her while she hides her evil side. So Dominique has to change if she wants Veronica's support to take over the Karlsson Group.


1. In E5 on dom path in the bathscene you can choose between Veronica, Dominique and Juliette to talk.

Dominique (domkane55) :
... the reality is that this company sometimes must make tough decisions that require sacrifices. With resources, and even lives. It is not easy..."
d "...if you have some semblance of morality."
... I have always strived to use this company to change the world for the better...but still...even I wonder sometimes...if I'm walking the right path in life. "
d "Sometimes...I wonder if I should just be a little more ruthless and selfish. Maybe just enjoy my good fortune in life...and not care about others so much."
d "What do you think? If you were in my shoes right now?"

Choice :
"(In her position, I think she shouldn't worry so much about others. What's wrong with being more selfish and even ruthless for your own benefit first?)" if True:
$ dominiquestestpass = True
p "Well to be honest Dominique, I think you should consider yourself before others more. You can't save everyone, and it's a ruthless world out there."
p "In your shoes, I'd probably make sure I was enjoying myself first."
d "Interesting answer [pname]. I am a little surprised to hear you say that, but of course I will...take it under consideration."
d "I'm even more curious how you'll handle our time together tomorrow."


It's possible that Dominique's morality talk is just a test for Kane to see his moral PoV ... but it is also possible that Kane with this answer pushes Dominique to be more selfish and to embrace her evil side ... at least in the game this answer and a minimum of 5 evil is the key for Kane to join Dominique when she enjoys torturing Amara ...


2. In E6 e6botany2 Veronica and Dominique talk :

d "Why are you supporting [pname3] to take over The Karlsson Group?"
v "Are you sure that I am? And that I can't change my mind?"
d "The evidence points to this conclusion. I'll never understand why you won't support me."
d "I'd even support you second to myself if you desired the role, because I do consider the big picture. If not me, much better you than anyone else."
d "But somehow you can't see me moving us forward into the future? Especially with what is happening now? Why?"
v "My feelings today are not indicative of the future in perpetuity...only the present. [pname3] represents an unknown hope and she is strong, focused, and intelligent. Similar to both of us in many ways."
v "And as for you, most people believe you simply lack the ruthlessness to do what is necessary at times in a harsh world."
v "But I don't worry about that at all. It's in there. And I think we both agree that what some may call evil or ruthless...can also simply be...making tough choices that require sacrifice."
d "So then what are you worried about with me?"

v "You're not being true to yourself yet. You're still conflicted in your own mind, and a divided mind cannot rule. Juliette is a sociopath, but she knows that and embraces it."
v "Alessandra knows who she is too, and lives life on her own terms. You're trying to straddle the lines of who you think you are supposed to be versus who you truly are."
v "When I see the real Dominique Karlsson appear before me, then I am open to changing my mind. Because that woman is worth considering."

v "But for now, I believe what I believe. Don't feel too bad Dominique...I suffer with a similar conflict internally. Both good and evil pulling on my soul every day."
v "I've got to run now. I believe I can help this project more than I realized...and Dominique....consider if it's really [pname3] I'm so concerned about...or someone else."


Besides Kane's answer and support in E5 and E6, Veronica's talk may have pushed Dominique even more to drop the mask and act out her evil side to have a chance of Veronica's support.


My guess is that Dominique will change even more :
From moral good person to cruel sadist (whipping Amara) to remorseful switch, asking dom mc to punish her for her wrong doings (and probably release her with the magic of his magnificent dick. (cliche))
 
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By the way, Dominique looks gorgeous with her hair done and in her ball gown :PogChamp:.

I like her much more than Veronica, Alessa or Olivia.

Only my beloved blonde viper can rival her beauty :love:.
Wait who is your beloved blonde viper? Or do you mean Juliette?

a lot of stuff..
Not really sure what you're getting at here.
I think we can safely assume that she's going to embrace her evil side unless certain conditions are met and Cole influences her. It's been heavily implied by Tess that he is critical for her on her redemption path.
 
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