VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalA2] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

but not the true dom path. I raised my concerns with Tess for this issue, but she ignored.

This. I've brought up the path numerous times and pretty much always been told..WAI.

Played upto 8.2, But never concentrated on chapter names. Can somebody explain?

1. Karlssons Gambit (no special chapter name)
2. Chessboard Completition
3. Queen's Pawn Game
4. King's Reveal
5. Queen's Blood
6. Queen's Melody
7. Princess's Gaze, Prince's Soul
8. 1. Joker's Game - Return of the Queen, 8. 2. Joker's Game - Return of the Great Knight.

Directly ref what is happening in the game world with ref to plot/characters (same with the title card screens, which I will resume my posts on when the update is out).

 

[hoochimama]

Kane once being a K4 is completely ignored bar one earlier ref. It's completely forgotten.

Strange, it at least felt like there was a bit more than just a couple of references to it over the course of the game, often accompanied by warnings that you could easily return to that status if you screwed up. Even if it's just an illusion, I liked it.

If you are a good guy and take choices like leaving food for all the prisoners [...] you will fall into K4 category by deafult. This is very normal when someone is going through blind playthrough unless they either see the walkthrough or take some badass dom decisions in prison.

Player inherently expects to get a lower score because of the seemingly less selfish choice but didn't expect a meal that's just described as less tasty would leave you physically weaker to the point of failing the physical test, as if you had chosen to go on an empty stomach (a choice I wouldn't have made).
I like curve balls and a good deal of unpredictability anyway and was looking for a spartacus revenge fantasy so the slave/sub beginning made for a better start. Gave me better reason to hate these people (Katsumi showing you that pic of your brother and her plans for him was really nice).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

to be fair a dom is an alpha so he takes everything for his benefit so it makes sense that you get rewarded for keeping the food to yourself and not helping zach. Honestly, a true dom player is a self-serving asshole. A dom with a good alignment doesnt really make sense but I get why it had to be made for this game.

 

[Silver_Crow117]

to be fair a dom is an alpha so he takes everything for his benefit so it makes sense that you get rewarded for keeping the food to yourself and not helping zach. Honestly, a true dom player is a self-serving asshole. A dom with a good alignment doesnt really make sense but I get why it had to be made for this game.

Meh it’s not good enough…. Oh well

 

[kinkyshin]

Strange, it at least felt like there was a bit more than just a couple of references to it over the course of the game, often accompanied by warnings that you could easily return to that status if you screwed up. Even if it's just an illusion, I liked it.


Player inherently expects to get a lower score because of the seemingly less selfish choice but didn't expect a meal that's just described as less tasty would make such a difference as to result in failing the physical test, as if you had chosen to go on an empty stomach (a choice I wouldn't have made).
I like curve balls anyway and was looking for a revenge story so the slave/sub beginning made for a better start, made me hate them more.

Being punished for giving away your food I understand... It's stupid though that encouraging Zach gives you a slavepoint.
In reality, it costs you nothing to encourage someone, and you're gaining a potential ally...

I think it's safe to say that the program is far from perfect.

to be fair a dom is an alpha so he takes everything for his benefit so it makes sense that you get rewarded for keeping the food to yourself and not helping zach. Honestly, a true dom player is a self-serving asshole. A dom with a good alignment doesnt really make sense but I get why it had to be made for this game.

So, Cole isn't a true alpha/dom because he's not a self-serving asshole?

Ultimately, the self-serving asshole Alexander was murdered by his own daughter (a fitting end for him) meanwhile Cole is everything that Alexander wished he was. A scientific genius. Loved by Callista. A true hero that saves humanity.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

So, Cole isn't a true alpha/dom because he's not a self-serving asshole?

Ultimately, the self-serving asshole Alexander was murdered by his own daughter (a fitting end for him) meanwhile Cole is everything that Alexander wished he was. A scientific genius. Loved by Callista. A true hero that saves humanity.

No Cole is somewhere in between.
That's what happens to most self-serving assholes. All he had to do was leave his daughter alone, however, his arrogance led him to believe that he could continue to torture his daughters without any consequences. A similar fate likely awaits evil dom Kane after the events of this game.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Being punished for giving away your food I understand... It's stupid though that encouraging Zach gives you a slavepoint.
In reality, it costs you nothing to encourage someone, and you're gaining a potential ally...

Slave points are a measure how good Kane aligns with the guards.
Patricia likes to bully her victims and does not want them encouraged, so encouraging Zach earns a slave point.

On the other side there are 2 options to reduce slave points if you made a deal with Pat :
- "I better not say anything at all. Especially talking about Patricia meeting me, I am quite sure that would alter how she treats me today" -> $ slavepoints -= 1
- "I have no questions, Mistress Patricia." -> if patdealyes: $ slavepoints -= 1

So you can get 2 slavepoints from other sources and still come out as K6.

 

[kinkyshin]

Slave points are a measure how good Kane aligns with the guards.
Patricia likes to bully her victims and does not want them encouraged, so encouraging Zach earns a slave point.

On the other side there are 2 options to reduce slave points if you made a deal with Pat :
- "I better not say anything at all. Especially talking about Patricia meeting me, I am quite sure that would alter how she treats me today" -> $ slavepoints -= 1
- "I have no questions, Mistress Patricia." -> if patdealyes: $ slavepoints -= 1

So you can get 2 slavepoints from other sources and still come out as K6.

So if Kane doesn't run fast enough during the testing, his relationship with the guards gets worse?

 

[DoverDad]

Cole is such a good guy, he stole his best friend's girl, it's that not an asshole move, I don't know what is

 

[HiHaHo]

Cole is such a good guy, he stole his best friend's girl, it's that not an asshole move, I don't know what is

bro, there is entire fetish dedicated to it....

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Cole is such a good guy, he stole his best friend's girl, it's that not an asshole move, I don't know what is

Alexander fucked Callista's best friend, it's only fair that Callista did the same to Alexander

 

[DoverDad]

Alexander fucked Callista's best friend, it's only fair that Callista did the same to Alexander

Not saying I don't agree, but everyone is trying to put Cole on this pedestal. If he did not fuck Callista, he would not be stuck on the island by himself and miss most of his children's lives. Yeah, Kane might not exist.

 

[kinkyshin]

Cole is such a good guy, he stole his best friend's girl

Best friend's ex. Big difference.

And besides that:

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it's that not an asshole move, I don't know what is

I can name a few:
-> Having a harem of sex slaves that are kept in cages.
-> Injecting your daughter with a terminal disease that cannot be cured.
-> Sexually assaulting anyone your own daughter.
-> Placing a killswitch inside your ex-gf's son.
-> Raising your daughters to become murderous lunatics (Juliette in particular).

Not saying I don't agree, but everyone is trying to put Cole on this pedestal. If he did not fuck Callista, he would not be stuck on the island by himself and miss most of his children's lives. Yeah, Kane might not exist.

You're seriously trying to make Cole take the blame this? Lol

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Im starting to think Alexander was always the same person, MOY was just love-blind until she caught him with Elena and cole just shocked Alex made a move against him. He mightve treated his allies good, but everybody else got treated like shiznit.

 

[DoverDad]

Best friend's ex. Big difference.

And besides that:

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I can name a few:
-> Having a harem of sex slaves that are kept in cages.
-> Injecting your daughter with a terminal disease that cannot be cured.
-> Sexually assaulting anyone your own daughter.
-> Placing a killswitch inside your ex-gf's son.
-> Raising your daughters to become murderous lunatics (Juliette in particular).


You're seriously trying to make Cole take the blame this? Lol

I will not hear blasphemous talks about the sweet, innocent kind, Juliette

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

I will not hear blasphemous talks about the sweet, innocent kind, Juliette

A reminder that Juliette is a sweet responsible girl who cares for animals.

 

[harsha_26]

I can name a few:
-> Having a harem of sex slaves that are kept in cages.
-> Injecting your daughter with a terminal disease that cannot be cured.
-> Sexually assaulting anyone your own daughter.
-> Placing a killswitch inside your ex-gf's son.
-> Raising your daughters to become murderous lunatics (Juliette in particular).

I wonder if Kane can able to do atleast half of these things in evil dom path.

 

[harsha_26]

Slave points are a measure how good Kane aligns with the guards.
Patricia likes to bully her victims and does not want them encouraged, so encouraging Zach earns a slave point.

On the other side there are 2 options to reduce slave points if you made a deal with Pat :
- "I better not say anything at all. Especially talking about Patricia meeting me, I am quite sure that would alter how she treats me today" -> $ slavepoints -= 1
- "I have no questions, Mistress Patricia." -> if patdealyes: $ slavepoints -= 1

So you can get 2 slavepoints from other sources and still come out as K6.

So, If you want to be a good savior boy and help prisoners for food and play as honest (not taking pat deal).. Yeah, you will end up with K4. I dont have problem with this, Because I'm the fan of Evil Dom path. So, my choices for my canon path are totally selfish and badass. But, I dont clearly understand these prison choices of a Selfish Kane taking good dom choices out of prison.

I mean, yes, he may think that.. "Well, I'm a good boy. But first, I will do anything I can to get out of this shithole prison and be a good boy out of prison". But, this is all headcanon for players. Kane doesn't given any coherency in game script.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Juliette is also into scientific research as proven by dumbo. Her and ronnie should be besties

 

[f96zonetrooper]

So if Kane doesn't run fast enough during the testing, his relationship with the guards gets worse?

I think the guards like winners, not loosers ...

The tests are not fair.
Imho : The tests are supposed to separate wolfs from sheep and check if the new wolfs fit into the wolfpack with its hierarchy ...

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