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harsha_26

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You should consider the date of release for these episodes.

Some "Evil" Veronica content dates back to 2020.
I guess that in the past years Tess has changed her plans for Veronica, so if Tess would look at Season 1 again she might rewrite some of the scenes to better fit the current narrative.
Yeah, This could be right. But It is Tess we are talking about. She never accpets her faults, especially when it comes to veronica. She is like her alter ego while astrid is for anais.
 

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Yeah, This could be right. But It is Tess we are talking about. She never accpets her faults, especially when it comes to veronica. She is like her alter ego while astrid is for anais.
Her alter ego is Alessandra and Anais's alter ego is Delilah.
 

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Her alter ego is Alessandra and Anais's alter ego is Delilah.
I said those according to my thoughts towards them. Because, she always said that veronica is her best character with so many heroic plans, and Yvette reminds her of her own mother and Astrid is totally a anais game's Main LI. She gives value to the two characters and given them immortality powers.

But true, that cruel girl delilah also will be survived just because she is the real alter ego confirmed by anais. Although I never seen tess saying Alessandra is her alter ego.
 

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AfaIk :

You can play the game without a save from Season 1.
All 330+ variables taken from Season 1 are initialised with default values in the script before loading.
If loading fails due to a missing "Karlssons.gambit.s1" you get an error which can be ignored.
You will then proceed with default values which will usually give you the default dom events due to how branching is coded. All your rank variables are false, so you usually get the "else"/"elif True" branch.

Example : default -> e8kdomstart

Code:
label eightforkone:

    if k1pro or k2 or k3 or k4:
        jump subisland
    elif True:
        jump e8domstart

...

label e8domstart:

    if k9:
        jump e8k9start
    elif True:
        jump e8kdomstart

2. If you want to change default values, you can do the following :

Place the following file "initialisation.rpy" in folder "...\KarlssonsGambit-0.8.31TestB-pc\game".
(Right-click -> Save target as ...)
Use an editor like Notepad++ and edit the (default) values in lines 234 - 571
Rank variables are spread out since all variables are grouped per Episode when first used.
k9 is currently highest rank.
The custom names are last.

Important :
You have to start the game once to get the edited initialisation.rpy compiled to initialisation.rpyc.
Exit KarlssonsGambit.exe and start again so that your edited defaults are used.

Use Start, select "None" and ignore the following error.


If you later want to get rid of this "cheat" :
- delete the *.rpy and the respective *.rpyc file in the "\game" folder.
- delete/move all saves since these saves are likely "corrupt" since they probably do not represent a set of variable values obtained by a regular playthrough.
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In case you get unexpected results/errors, don't report them in the forum/discord since they are based on "cheating".

Important Note :
This file initialisation.rpy belongs to KarlssonsGambit-0.8.31TestB-pc. Don't use it with other versions of KG!!!

Have fun.
Over three hundred variables? That's insane for a single developer!
 
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And Veronica becoming the so called "saviour" is canon no matter what path or decisions you take. Kane choices are useless for her ultimate fate. Your only choice is to join her (B), or co-exist (A&C), or let her go (evil factions). "The greatest immortal goddess". This kills all my thrill of this game for veronica.
Absolutly agree on this. I think Veroinca and Dominique are actually the worst of the sisters. Juliette and Alessandra are just fucking psychopaths that are seriously fucked in the head. Dominique actually understands what she's doing is wrong but still enjoys it. Veronica on the other hand is trying to justify everything with the greater good ... but if she is such a fucking genius as the game tells you all the time, she should have tried to find a better way.
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I think its a big miss that there will be no ending in which Kane frees himself with help of the revolution and can go on a murder spree and gets to kill off all the fucked up bitches - including Veronica. Basically a let the world burn ending in which Kane can destroy all of Veronica's work and dooms the world, just because he has seen the worst of humanity and doesn't think it's worth saving.

I think my biggest criticism of the game is that it is very often just too evil to actually enjoy it as fapping material. But maybe thats just me :unsure:
 

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I said those according to my thoughts towards them. Because, she always said that veronica is her best character with so many heroic plans, and Yvette reminds her of her own mother and Astrid is totally a anais game's Main LI. She gives value to the two characters and given them immortality powers.

But true, that cruel girl delilah also will be survived just because she is the real alter ego confirmed by anais. Although I never seen tess saying Alessandra is her alter ego.
I say that because Tess introduced herself as grymm gudina just like Alessandra does. That plus might just be me but those two resemble each other
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Absolutly agree on this. I think Veroinca and Dominique are actually the worst of the sisters. Juliette and Alessandra are just fucking psychopaths that are seriously fucked in the head. Dominique actually understands what she's doing is wrong but still enjoys it. Veronica on the other hand is trying to justify everything with the greater good ... but if she is such a fucking genius as the game tells you all the time, she should have tried to find a better way.
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I think its a big miss that there will be no ending in which Kane frees himself with help of the revolution and can go on a murder spree and gets to kill off all the fucked up bitches - including Veronica. Basically a let the world burn ending in which Kane can destroy all of Veronica's work and dooms the world, just because he has seen the worst of humanity and doesn't think it's worth saving.

I think my biggest criticism of the game is that it is very often just too evil to actually enjoy it as fapping material. But maybe thats just me :unsure:
No. I can definitely say it's not just you.

But yes, there are more in doms that support the "good domination" compare to evil dom. In evil dom also, some dom players want to work alongside evil sisters and have evil romance instead of burning or over throwing them under his legs.

Most of the players who truly want to burn the karlssons (*Long Ranger) or atleast have them all under his legs (*Red Domination) have left this game already except players like me still hanging to it somehow.

*Note if you are not familiar: Long Ranger and Red Domination are cancelled endings.
 
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Absolutly agree on this. I think Veroinca and Dominique are actually the worst of the sisters. Juliette and Alessandra are just fucking psychopaths that are seriously fucked in the head. Dominique actually understands what she's doing is wrong but still enjoys it. Veronica on the other hand is trying to justify everything with the greater good ... but if she is such a fucking genius as the game tells you all the time, she should have tried to find a better way.
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I think its a big miss that there will be no ending in which Kane frees himself with help of the revolution and can go on a murder spree and gets to kill off all the fucked up bitches - including Veronica. Basically a let the world burn ending in which Kane can destroy all of Veronica's work and dooms the world, just because he has seen the worst of humanity and doesn't think it's worth saving.

I think my biggest criticism of the game is that it is very often just too evil to actually enjoy it as fapping material. But maybe thats just me :unsure:
Holy fucking yes! THANK YOU! So much this! I couldn't possibly agree more!

As someone who's been "stuck" at the end of chapter 6 for like 2 years because the kinks and the nature of this VN is so hard to digest it almost makes me sick, all I want or care about is the complete obliteration of The Karlsson Group and anyone that's a part of it. At least everyone ranked K5 and above. I'd like to decimate The Cocks too eventually but the Karlsson's come first.

And the fastest way to do it is to kill Veronica. Then that disgusting bitch Calista and Olivia. Elena and Yvette are inconsequential and the other sister bitches would run the Group down into the dirt in a week with Veronica, Calista and Olivia out of the picture.

I remember hating most of these characters so much I used to fantasize about them getting the Clarence Darby "treatment" in Law Abiding Citizen :ROFLMAO:

I mean really, how does Kane resist the urge to bash in the skull of every character he meets since the moment Elena intrduced herself to him? These people are pure evil.
 

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I say that because Tess introduced herself like grymm gudina just like Alessandra does. That plus might just be me but those two resemble each other
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Shit.. Now it's awkward to think that the one I hate the most resembles and could be alter ego to dev herself lol. Why god.. Why??
 
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Holy fucking yes! THANK YOU! So much this! I couldn't possibly agree more!

As someone who's been "stuck" at the end of chapter 6 for like 2 years because the kinks and the nature of this VN is so hard to digest it almost makes me sick, all I want or care about is the complete obliteration of The Karlsson Group and anyone that's a part of it. At least everyone ranked K5 and above. I'd like to decimate The Cocks too eventually but the Karlsson's come first.

And the fastest way to do it is to kill Veronica. Then that disgusting bitch Calista and Olivia. Elena and Yvette are inconsequential and the other sister bitches would run the Group down into the dirt in a week with Veronica, Calista and Olivia out of the picture.

I remember hating most of these characters so much I used to fantasize about them getting the Clarence Darby "treatment" in Law Abiding Citizen :ROFLMAO:

I mean really, how does Kane resist the urge to bash in the skull of every character he meets since the moment Elena intrduced herself to him? These people are pure evil.
Where are players like you all these days lol. I thought i'm the only one having revenge thoughts on Karlssons in the absolute sense.
 

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Where are players like you all these days lol. I thought i'm the only one having revenge thoughts on Karlssons in the absolute sense.
May I remind you of my 4th path => Revolution Path Special, where my Kane is openly against everyone and everything?

But you don't know my 6th path, which I won't spoil, because the enemy is listening in!!!
 

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Where are players like you all these days lol. I thought i'm the only one having revenge thoughts on Karlssons in the absolute sense.
Probably just lurking as I usually do in this thread :LOL:

Most people here just go along with the sickening premise. Discussing how utterly evil, sinister or morally abhorrent the actions of most of the characters are doesn't come up nearly as much as I'd like it to.

I'm the one in the corner rooting for the asteroid to do this VN world a favor and wipe it from existence because there is nothing or anyone on there worth saving :p
 

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Shit.. Now it's awkward to think that the one I hate the most resembles and could be alter ego to dev herself lol. Why god.. Why??
eddie-murphy-nutty-professor.gif my bad
Where are players like you all these days lol. I thought i'm the only one having revenge thoughts on Karlssons in the absolute sense.
Tess got rid of the demon path to get rid of these players. Her attempts seem to have been largely sucessful
 
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May I remind you of my 4th path => Revolution Path Special, where my Kane is openly against everyone and everything?

But you don't know my 6th path, which I won't spoil, because the enemy is listening in!!!
Hmmm.. Now, I think for revenge paths (if tess ever have plans for it), revolution path looks better lol. I mean Faction C (evil). Revolution doesn't mean only good and democracy right??? :devilish:
But you have consider one point, Alesandra is in faction C (evil)..:rolleyes:
 
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I also think good Olivia on sub path feels very off. Even though she tries to keep her morals good, she still participates in extremly fucked up stuff. If we have the possiblity to play her as a good person there should be more chances to actually be one.

Also it is just sooo hard to actually like at least some of the female characters because so many of them getting off on people dying of starvation or just accepting this because ... well fuck people.

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No. I can definitely say it's not just you.

But yes, there are more in doms that support the "good domination" compare to evil dom. In evil dom also, some dom players want to work alongside evil sisters and have evil romance instead of burning or over throwing them under his legs.

Most of the players who truly want to burn the karlssons (*Long Ranger) or atleast have them all under his legs (*Red Domination) have left this game already except players like me still hanging to it somehow.

*Note if you are not familiar: Long Ranger and Red Domination are cancelled endings.
 

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I also think good Olivia on sub path feels very off. Even though she tries to keep her morals good, she still participates in extremly fucked up stuff. If we have the possiblity to play her as a good person there should be more chances to actually be one.
There's no shred of goodness or kindness in her. She needs to be offed too. Don't forget she is colluding with Calista. Every breath and every move out of her is simply acting. She is playing a part. She is deceiving and manipulating everyone and everything.

Like you said, at least Juliette and Alessandra are openly evil. They are transparent with their feelings and desires for the most part. Characters like Olivia are the ones you need to worry about.
 
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There's no shred of goodness or kindness in her. She needs to be offed too. Don't forget she is colluding with Calista. Every breath and every move out of her is simply acting. She is playing a part. She is deceiving and manipulating everyone and everything.


Like you said, at least Juliette and Alessandra are openly evil. They are transparent with their feelings and desires for the most part. Characters like Olivia are the ones you need to worry about.


What feels really strange, that if you are on dom path, good Olivia seems much better, simply because you are not involved with her that much. But the fact that you don't even get some kind of dommy mommy path with her feels off. I actually enjoy the writing for evil Olivia much more because then at least she feels as fucked up as Juliette and Alessandra. Not that I like evil Olivia, but at least she feels consitent.
 
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