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Im also a bit shocked they let olivia and kane get away with the shit they do. Having Olivia sit on Kane's lap on a throne while Kane is basically lording over them was quite the imagery. I was expecting at least juliette to say something about that.
Yes, this is my favorite non-sex scene in the update, and it is undoubtedly very profound in terms of the hints and signals sent to the Karlsson sisters. I have two versions here.
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Yes, this is my favorite non-sex scene in the update, and it is undoubtedly very profound in terms of the hints and signals sent to the Karlsson sisters. I have two versions here.
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I'm more surprised why alessandra is silent in this throne scene. Because, after playing all the sister's routes, it's alessandra the one who is actively encouraging kane to become like more like her and enjoy the life as z4 rather than becoming z5, because of her goal towards female supremacy and her trust on olivia to become z5. And that's the gambit queen's plan (callista) too if gambit suceeds. Olivia all her life is trained and groomed to become chariman (acting, physical training, music etc) while kane is destined to become her advisor, in whatever way according to his dom/sub orientation.

Of course, this is only one plan. Callista have other plans like revolution too. Olivia have other plans like saying no to female supremacy and can submit to kane, making the way more easy for kane to become z5. But, still I expected to see some opposition from alesandra as she is one of the few who knows too much about gambit and her dad.
 

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It would have been kinda funny if tess implemented in a choice at the beginning when speaking with Elena, and the option to respond with something like; "No thanks, I'll just finish my sentence" and "Guard!.. take me back to my cell!". Then a game over... or a few bonus scenes of how MC life plays out in jail. (totally something Miron or Darktoz would do BTW) Plus it would have been cool to call their bluff too, and watch the reaction. That is what I would have done IRL... MC already knows they need him. And it just increases his bargaining position and leverage.
Idk... just something that i always thought when playing through the start.

Edit: I mean, it would save you the player a fuk ton hours of convolution after chapter 4 and on, at least.
I kid! I kid!, I love the game!... most of it :sneaky:
 
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Question:

Back in the day (story wise) there was supposed to be a 'welcoming party' for Olivia. I think it was either a fashion show or a casino. Did that ever happen / and I somehow missed it?

I've found the story of this game harder to follow the last 4-5 updates, as frankly too many new characters come in, and I lose track of the few that were interesting. Olivia has feels like she's gone from the 2nd main character to a rare supporting character at best (it could be the narrow paths I choose)
 

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One of the highlights of the game for me was at the start of these televised games when they force sub Kane to say something for the camera expecting him to be compliant and he tells everyone watching, all the karlssons, all the VIPs, all the viewers, to go fuck themselves. Made all the witches mad and they all joined in on stomping him but it was worth it!
If I knew how to find those scenes without having to wade through the rest of the sub route, I'd do it. Problem is, I can't tolerate the sub stuff long enough to see something like what you're describing. But I do act out on the dom route by refusing to answer questions when the game allows that, or refusing practicaly anything that Kitty and some others want, etc.
 
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as frankly too many new characters come in
That has been my main complaint for years. I even remember telling tess that on this forum or patreons... She obviously didnt like that constructive criticism because... crickets after that. (and more and more new characters that feel pointless and forced as hell) But yes, i agree 100 of course.
 
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Elena literally said to kane that he shouldn't be sad about missing his parents because joining with Olivia means creating a new family and he can expand his family if he want like including claudia.
Damn it. You guys with all this talk; now I have to run another route (Dom Evil Kane + Olivia) just to see the things you're talking about.

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Yes, this is my favorite non-sex scene in the update, and it is undoubtedly very profound in terms of the hints and signals sent to the Karlsson sisters. I have two versions here.
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Maybe it's just me but I've seen this kind of vibe from Juliette throughout the entire game, not just toward Kane directly but also toward the DeKocks. She strikes me as openly hating the DeKocks for some reason, moreso than the other Karlssons; maybe the hate is there for the others but just hidden better. Juliette doesn't seem like one to halfstep anything so...
 

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Haha yes, but its like super rare that Kane can act out. Strangest thing is, this just gives -1 sgame point. So its a really low penalty. But most of the time we get decisions like: yes I want to lick your shoes or yes I want to lick your shoes now and I hope I can do it a lot more often in the future ...

There is not really a way to play Kane constantly as openly defiant. Maybe because if he would constantly said that he hates everyhting about it, it would clash even more with Patreons guidlines about consent and stuff (even though I think KG is already heavily in violation of that rules :ROFLMAO: and a lot of others too actually).
Patreon never cares about man's consent and tess is using this to her advantage more than any other dev and also trying her best to please her patreon overlords by showing middle finger to demon and juli-demon romance.
 

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If Olivia has a guy who treated her like shit in her former life killed, that scares Juliette, but Kane constantly fucking over his best friend is apparently hot as fuck to these women.
Im also a bit shocked they let olivia and kane get away with the shit they do. Having Olivia sit on Kane's lap on a throne while Kane is basically lording over them was quite the imagery. I was expecting at least juliette to say something about that.
Because if Kane goes hard on Jake that means Kane is being corrupted (Karlssons cheer) and it's not just cruelty, it's betrayal (double cheer from Karlssons). JMO...
 

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Question:

Back in the day (story wise) there was supposed to be a 'welcoming party' for Olivia. I think it was either a fashion show or a casino. Did that ever happen / and I somehow missed it?

I've found the story of this game harder to follow the last 4-5 updates, as frankly too many new characters come in, and I lose track of the few that were interesting. Olivia has feels like she's gone from the 2nd main character to a rare supporting character at best (it could be the narrow paths I choose)
If you're dom, you won't see the party take place. It's taking place off screen. If you want to see the party, you have to be a sub.
(cough) URM (cough)
I know I can use urm to see the scene, but I still have to get rid of him anyway because my queen Olivia don't like him. Also whatever happened to the vibrating tongue he was supposed to get?
I'm more surprised why alessandra is silent in this throne scene. Because, after playing all the sister's routes, it's alessandra the one who is actively encouraging kane to become like more like her and enjoy the life as z4 rather than becoming z5, because of her goal towards female supremacy and her trust on olivia to become z5. And that's the gambit queen's plan (callista) too if gambit suceeds. Olivia all her life is trained and groomed to become chariman (acting, physical training, music etc) while kane is destined to become her advisor, in whatever way according to his dom/sub orientation.

Of course, this is only one plan. Callista have other plans like revolution too. Olivia have other plans like saying no to female supremacy and can submit to kane, making the way more easy for kane to become z5. But, still I expected to see some opposition from alesandra as she is one of the few who knows too much about gambit and her dad.
Olivia's her bestie, she'll likely back Olivia on whatever she does and vice versa.
 

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On another note, the dekocks are dumbasses. They're legit openly defying the Karlssons, its not like their absence would go unnoticed. Yet they leave their heir there alone and unprotected. Sure they probably wont do anything, but its still not smart to take the chance that it could happen.
 

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If you're dom, you won't see the party take place. It's taking place off screen. If you want to see the party, you have to be a sub.
I'd wondered about that, especially since I chose the party as my task (vs. the Game Show). In some ways, that makes the Party Planner selection kinda useless for us Doms, other than the bonus points we get w/ Veronica for skipping the show (that you end up being in anyway.)

Choosing the Party Planner task was supposed to allow the MC to work more closely with Olivia on the project, to.
 

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I'd wondered about that, especially since I chose the party as my task (vs. the Game Show). In some ways, that makes the Party Planner selection kinda useless for us Doms, other than the bonus points we get w/ Veronica for skipping the show (that you end up being in anyway.)

Choosing the Party Planner task was supposed to allow the MC to work more closely with Olivia on the project, to.
All party planning does is cost you one of those important brosis team points. I made that mistake for the longest time. Everything else is the same, you get to fuck hyori and a tease from celeste and alessandra if you pick the other task.
 

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Patreon never cares about man's consent and tess is using this to her advantage more than any other dev and also trying her best to please her patreon overlords by showing middle finger to demon and juli-demon romance.
Does patreon really care about womens consent? KG ignores that also often enough and for example Something Unlimited is on patreon for over 10 years and the whole premise of that game is to give a flying fuck about consent.

And I can't say im too sad about no demon route, acutally I would even prefer if she got rid of most of the killing stuff. Killing is just unsexy. Call me a hypocrite but I would very much prefer if every killing scene would be replaced with: 'Send them to the mines!' :ROFLMAO:. And yes this is mostly because this is a porn game and I want to enjoy my porn games and don't see people dying ... ;). Or just only do killing stuff when it actually has significance to the story. But most death scenes are just over the top, stuipidly evil bullshit. I enjoy intelligent evil much more than stupid evil. But thats just my opinion and I understand that you don't like that Kane's demon path got cut while Olivia's remains.
 

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Because if Kane goes hard on Jake that means Kane is being corrupted (Karlssons cheer) and it's not just cruelty, it's betrayal (double cheer from Karlssons). JMO...
Yeah but look at it like that: Ok, here is a guy that we put innocently in prison for 6 months to blackmail him to be part of our 'rehabilitation' programm. Luckily for him, he got into the good part of the programm, but now must have realized that the whole reason for the programm is to entertain us and our friends by killing the participants, haha. Ohh this guy enjoys being as evil as we, cool. Ohh wait he is actually part of one of the only families on the planet that could actually be a threat to us and he is willing to betray his best friend. Sounds like a great idea to give this guy more power and prepping him up to become our overlord. Sounds like a fantastic idea, what could go wrong? I am sure he will be a very benelovent ruler for us!

I dunno feels like they just digging their own graves.

I mean why should a evil Kane/Olivia duo let any of the sister live after they have taken over? Better to get rid of any potential competition.
Btw. I really hope that at some point Olivia will become kinda jealous when Kane fucks around. But only when it involves her sisters. Like she has no problems when Kane fucks women she sees as inferior to her ... those are just playthings and she has fun with them too. But somebody on her level? That's a nono.
 
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Btw. I really hope that at some point Olivia will become kinda jealous when Kane fucks around. But only when it involves her sisters. Like she has no problems when Kane fucks women she sees as inferior to her ... those are just playthings and she has fun with them too. But somebody on her level? That's a nono.
Drama would be fun, but I imagine it would be cuckquean fetish Olivia at most if anything. Dom path seems to play like basic harem wish fulfillment. Can a dom Kane refuse Olivia both sexually and in terms of help, antagonizing her as he can on the sub path? On the sub path Olivia and Elena swear to destroy you after you refuse them like that. Olivia also throws you into a cage next to her bed and forces you to watch her and Katsumi fuck each other as some sort of NTR punishment which is kinda cute, as if lesbianism registered as a bad thing to a straight man the way BG cheating/cuckolding does.

It's curious that the dom path netori scenes where Kane fucks some other guy's girl in front of him get more red-colored "warning super evil scene ahead" alerts than the actual snuff/murder ones.
 
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