VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 FinalB1] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Yeah but sometimes, you don’t really focus on the events happening, your just rushing through everything with out taking into consideration of what’s involved/the context… I.e. character development, relationships, ect. but hey, Dom players don’t like to go in depth into things on the sub side and the vice versa with Sub players trying to play dom routes… me personally, I play everything authentically but I don’t really have that motivation/concentration when I play the dom side as I play the sub side! That’s why we have users like Stan the Man and Mav

Very good point indeed Silver.

I use it a lot for timeline stuff, seeing exactly when a scene switches and to what, as not all the SubPaths are the same (or dom paths if not at K9) so I find it a useful tool (the pick a diff choice/replay function) purely for that alone. As you say though, with no real context of the prior scene on the diff path, you're not really getting the full picture.

 

[Stan5851]

There will be an auction route in the very far future if you don’t pick a main mistress to serve, Juliette, Dominique, Delilah, Chastain, etc. but Yes, Kane can be ranked S+ tier (Possibly)… me and Tess even joked of Zach and Kane having a Buy one get one Free sale LMAOO

I was already imagining this dialog between Cole and Kane in the very end of the game..

Cole: Well, hello, son! I can finally give you a hug!

*The hug scene*

Cole: Your mom told me that you were interested in science and grew up to be a capable and confident boy. But I want you to tell me yourself, son, what you've accomplished while I was away.

KaneSub: Dad, I've turned into a slave with calluses on my knees, an enlarged anus and a surgically altered tongue, and tomorrow I'll be auctioned off for rich Mistresses to buy me for their perverted entertainment.

Cole:.......*he sounds of a heart attack*

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[SlowGoesSlow]

I was already imagining this dialog between Cole and Kane in the very end of the game..

Cole: Well, hello, son! I can finally give you a hug!

*The hug scene*

Cole: Your mom told me that you were interested in science and grew up to be a capable and confident boy. But I want you to tell me yourself, son, what you've accomplished while I was away.

KaneSub: Dad, I've turned into a slave with calluses on my knees, an enlarged anus and a surgically altered tongue, and tomorrow I'll be auctioned off for rich Mistresses to buy me for their perverted entertainment.

Cole:.......*he sounds of a heart attack*

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All part of Galaxy Brain Callista's plan.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Yeah but sometimes, you don’t really focus on the events happening, your just rushing through everything with out taking into consideration of what’s involved/the context… I.e. character development, relationships, ect. but hey, Dom players don’t like to go in depth into things on the sub side and the vice versa with Sub players trying to play dom routes… me personally, I play everything authentically but I don’t really have that motivation/concentration when I play the dom side as I play the sub side! That’s why we have users like Stan the Man and Mav

Very good point indeed Silver.

I use it a lot for timeline stuff, seeing exactly when a scene switches and to what, as not all the SubPaths are the same (or dom paths if not at K9) so I find it a useful tool (the pick a diff choice/replay function) purely for that alone. As you say though, with no real context of the prior scene on the diff path, you're not really getting the full picture.

True, you can't do it for all scenes, but certain scenes work great with it, such as the bridge scene and Olivia with the slave.

 

[jadepaladin]

How much does Elena change when she is evil versus when she is good? I know about the various flags, like her opinion of Kane as a worthy partner for Olivia and how their moralities have to match, but we set Elena's alignment at the end of episode 4 and the only thing I can think of off the top of my head where she is rather sadistic is that new scene in ep 8 pt 2 where Kane is a sub and rejects the Olivia/Elena sponsorship and I don't know if that's more of Olivia being evil with Elena following suit, or Elena being evil.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

How much does Elena change when she is evil versus when she is good? I know about the various flags, like her opinion of Kane as a worthy partner for Olivia and how their moralities have to match, but we set Elena's alignment at the end of episode 4 and the only thing I can think of off the top of my head where she is rather sadistic is that new scene in ep 8 pt 2 where Kane is a sub and rejects the Olivia/Elena sponsorship and I don't know if that's more of Olivia being evil with Elena following suit, or Elena being evil.

This sounds like a question for stan the man. He's probably the good alignment expert here

 

[uwu0uwu]

Good dom route question...

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[Bloker997]

Good dom route question...

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isnt there the same amount of scenes with her, no matter if she is evil or not?

 

[jadepaladin]

Good dom route question...

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I think Dominique has the same amount of scenes for now but I'd have to check. Pretty sure whenever you're gonna get a Dominique scene after you've "set her flag" there are two variants. The only exception is a good Kane meeting Dominique initially in ep 3 or 4 but that's not sexual, and it's before her "good/evil flag."

I think Kane losing the demon flag changed the story for Dominique and Juliette but I don't know to what extent. I want to say it opened a door for a possible harem...but I'm not 100% sure on that. I did notice there's way less D vs J and more J vs V.

 

[alideh]

any have All paths (dom/sub) save files?

 

[Stan5851]

I think Kane losing the demon flag changed the story for Dominique and Juliette but I don't know to what extent. I want to say it opened a door for a possible harem...but I'm not 100% sure on that. I did notice there's way less D vs J and more J vs V.

The loss of the demon flag should only affect those players who play the "pure" EvilDom route, having Juliette as a sponsor and future LI..I've only play 2 Dom saves out of my 12 so far, but the Evil save is my lowest priority. So if anyone having demon EvilDom Kane and the rs with Jules (and completed sarlacc scene), in the pt2 has already noticed the change in Jules's narrative promised by Tess (whatever that means), feel free to post what the difference is..Though something tells me that there may not be any separate scenes with her in pt2.

About the harem D+J, well I'd like to believe that, but so far it looks too good to be true. Besides, Tess doesn't accept incest, so it's unrealistic. Some incest jokes were even made in the scene with Dominique and Juliette, which was pretty funny, but it doesn't change Tess' attitude towards it...

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We already have an approved list of LI's + harems that DomKane will be allowed to have in this game...Though now we have a new harem, a genuine and real one that Tess hasn't mentioned yet and consisting of only Lily for now.... But its importance is unlikely to be comparable to harems like Olivia and Katsumi or Olivia and Veronica (the secret harem at the end of the game, which will be very hard to get).

 

[Shabrani_Goudou]

I would have loved an opposite to the secret sub path, like a secret dom path for K2-4, maybe like an SM one without the sub attitude, where everything plays mostly the same, except Kane enjoys what's happening to him, but he gets better and quicker at putting the puzzle together, stays kind of dommy with his interactions, keeping a slightly defiant gaze and being as capable as he is in the dom path but keeping himself voluntarily at K4 or whatever he wants, because he knows something's fishy, that he is kind of important and wants to fuck with them bitches' plans while also keeping them intrigued and interested.

Then discovering that Liv, even if good, is a little bitch to him at his rank, so he decides that he will fuck with her too and also with Elena, because she deserves it and that would be very funny, eh.

Yeah that's a lot of things needing to go well, but I had fun imagining shit like that, credible in the world/lore or not.

Because apart from the secret sub path with Alessa, i'm kind of playing the other sub paths like that

 

[Stan5851]

any have All paths (dom/sub) save files?

#13,833

 

[jadepaladin]

The loss of the demon flag should only affect those players who play the "pure" EvilDom route, having Juliette as a sponsor and future LI..I've only play 2 Dom saves out of my 12 so far, but the Evil save is my lowest priority. So if anyone having demon EvilDom Kane and the rs with Jules (and completed sarlacc scene), in the pt2 has already noticed the change in Jules's narrative promised by Tess (whatever that means), feel free to post what the difference is..Though something tells me that there may not be any separate scenes with her in pt 2.

About the harem D+J, well I'd like to believe that, but so far it looks too good to be true. Besides, Tess doesn't accept incest, so it's unrealistic. Some incest jokes were even made in the scene with Dominique and Juliette, which was pretty funny, but it doesn't change Tess' attitude towards it...

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We already have an approved list of LI's + harems that DomKane will be allowed to have in this game...Though now we have a new harem, a genuine and real one that Tess hasn't mentioned yet and consisting of only Lily for now.... But its importance is unlikely to be comparable to harems like Olivia and Katsumi or Olivia and Veronica (the secret harem at the end of the game, which will be very hard to get).

I only mentioned the D+J harem because of this:

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My understanding on this harem would be that D and J would never touch each other sexually (due to Tess's stance on incest) and instead it would be like the scene we got in the latest update where they are in the room together, enjoying themselves separately but in the presence of Kane and doing stuff with him separately.

 

[jadepaladin]

I would have loved an opposite to the secret sub path, like a secret dom path for K2-4, maybe like an SM one without the sub attitude, where everything plays mostly the same, except Kane enjoys what's happening to him, but he gets better and quicker at putting the puzzle together, stays kind of dommy with his interactions, keeping a slightly defiant gaze and being as capable as he is in the dom path but keeping himself voluntarily at K4 or whatever he wants, because he knows something's fishy, that he is kind of important and wants to fuck with them bitches' plans while also keeping them intrigued and interested.

Then discovering that Liv, even if good, is a little bitch to him at his rank, so he decides that he will fuck with her too and also with Elena, because she deserves it and that would be very funny, eh.

Yeah that's a lot of things needing to go well, but I had fun imagining shit like that, credible in the world/lore or not.

Because apart from the secret sub path with Alessa, i'm kind of playing the other sub paths like that

I get what you're saying but it sounds like Jake. He's doing just enough to tread water, and is passive aggressive while doing it. The only difference is it's not exactly working out for him. It sounds interesting though. Not sure who Kane would be able to get one over on. It's obviously not gonna work with any of the sisters, the vipers are too proud, maybe...Junko.

 

[Stan5851]

I only mentioned the D+J harem because of this:

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My understanding on this harem would be that D and J would never touch each other sexually (due to Tess's stance on incest) and instead it would be like the scene we got in the latest update where they are in the room together, enjoying themselves separately but in the presence of Kane and doing stuff with him separately.

I remember a post by Tess that talked about changing the narrative for Juliette, but I didn't see the continuation you quoted there... So if it really was Tess who wrote that, then anything is possible.. And then such a "harem" (where the sisters don't touch each other) might make sense.

But then it should also mean that "pure" EvilDom Kane (and not a "demon" at that) probably won't have any more evil content with Juliette at all (like the scene on the yacht where no demon flag is needed).

I can't say I'll be sad in this case...Yeah, I like Jules herself (and in pt2 I think she became even prettier), but I definitely don't like the murders in some of her scenes...And that's why the option with evil Dominica and "new Jules" is totally fine with me. And if it will be realized what Tess voiced on behalf of her character (concerning Jules), I will be the most satisfied as a March cat eaten sour cream.

 

[Shabrani_Goudou]

I get what you're saying but it sounds like Jake. He's doing just enough to tread water, and is passive aggressive while doing it. The only difference is it's not exactly working out for him. It sounds interesting though. Not sure who Kane would be able to get one over on. It's obviously not gonna work with any of the sisters, the vipers are too proud, maybe...Junko.

Yeah obviously that's a stretch, and it does sound like Jake in retrospect, but we know we (as the MC) are important, so why not play with this. Liking it would be an obvious bonus ^^

I was thinking of Junko specifically yes, like reverse her pet play in whatever way and become her owner instead, thus impressing Dominique, who sees something, and go from there.

Then there is maybe Chanel, although a lot dicier, she seems to like an assertive Kane very much. That would probably interest Elena too.

Yeah, fanfic much, but I like to think that maybe, in the end, messing with a lot of them as a K4 can be possible.

 

[jadepaladin]

I remember a post by Tess that talked about changing the narrative for Juliette, but I didn't see the continuation you quoted there... So if it really was Tess who wrote that, then anything is possible.. And then such a "harem" (where the sisters don't touch each other) might make sense.

But then it should also mean that "pure" EvilDom Kane (and not a "demon" at that) probably won't have any more evil content with Juliette at all (like the scene on the yacht where no demon flag is needed).

I can't say I'll be sad in this case...Yeah, I like Jules herself (and in pt2 I think she became even prettier), but I definitely don't like the murders in some of her scenes...And that's why the option with evil Dominica and "new Jules" is totally fine with me. And if it will be realized what Tess voiced on behalf of her character (concerning Jules), I will be the most satisfied as a March cat eaten sour cream.

I grabbed it from the discord, in the channel where she breaks down all the things that trickle out from changes to the demon flag, like Angelica's promotion, etc. I only clipped that because it was relevant and I didn't want to throw a wall of text we've probably both read in here, though I was gonna put it behind a spoiler regardless so I guess it really didn't matter.

 

[Maviarab]

How much does Elena change when she is evil versus when she is good? I know about the various flags, like her opinion of Kane as a worthy partner for Olivia and how their moralities have to match, but we set Elena's alignment at the end of episode 4 and the only thing I can think of off the top of my head where she is rather sadistic is that new scene in ep 8 pt 2 where Kane is a sub and rejects the Olivia/Elena sponsorship and I don't know if that's more of Olivia being evil with Elena following suit, or Elena being evil.

There's not a great deal of difference (yet) on the DomPath, there are a couple of differences on the SubPath. However, this is not unusual for Tess, there are variables in Ch.2 that have not been used yet and Tess has form when it comes to using them several chapters later. As we get into it more, her demeaner will surely change based on these points.

Good dom route question...

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There is only one scene difference between them (EvilDominique has one extra scene, that can actually be missed and still be on her path. GoodDominique romance also has an extra scene which again, can also be missed without repurcussiuons, though most dom players should see this scene regardless). The romance flag triggers earlier for GoodDominique (Only triggered for EvilDomi in 0.8.2 for example). But seriously, there's nothing it really.

isnt there the same amount of scenes with her, no matter if she is evil or not?

I think Dominique has the same amount of scenes for now but I'd have to check. Pretty sure whenever you're gonna get a Dominique scene after you've "set her flag" there are two variants. The only exception is a good Kane meeting Dominique initially in ep 3 or 4 but that's not sexual, and it's before her "good/evil flag."

One scene difference each path.

I think Kane losing the demon flag changed the story for Dominique and Juliette but I don't know to what extent. I want to say it opened a door for a possible harem...but I'm not 100% sure on that. I did notice there's way less D vs J and more J vs V.

Demon flag did not affect Dominiques path at all, it was only relevent to one very long scene on Jules' path with Mercy. It doesn't really affect anything going forward now as any evil aligned Kane will get the same scenes now on her path.

any have All paths (dom/sub) save files?

Go away.

, so why not play with this.

Yeah, fanfic much, but I like to think that maybe, in the end, messing with a lot of them as a K4 can be possible.

But as you already ulluded it does not fit the lore, it's all rather moot isn't it? Never going to happen, no matter what's inside your head and it does very much break the narrative and lore.

 

[ItsEshi22]

Do we have a walk through for ch 8 part 2 yet?