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Well, for anything about the sub stuff I'll have to take your word for it; I have no way of knowing. As others mentioned, in the discord the dev was emphatic that she abhors incest and never would include it in her work so I don't see how Delilah could be Kane's half sister; on my route, they had consensual sex while Kane was in prison. Maybe that didn't happen on the sub route; I don't know.

This is why I enjoy threads like this; I get to learn things I didn't see (because it's not on my route).

No idea who (or how many) hold(s) the "trigger"; that was just my guessing. It seemed to me like that was a means to ensure that Kane had to endure the gambit without help and since Veronica seems to be the "referee" of the gambit, so to speak, I assumed it was her. I could be completely wrong on that. You are right that Callista still is limiting to whom she reveals herself but it's unclear to me who represents a threat to her/Kane. We know it's not Elena and probably not Dominique since she knows
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... Good intrigue.
No I meant Nadia is Kane's half sister, not Delilah. Nadia is kind of upset about stuff that is done to sub Kane and dont want to interact with him in sexual stuff.
I actually think it should be none of the sisters, as the one who holds the trigger could have an unfair advantage over the others? Also how much do all the sisters know about the gambit? Veronica knows of course, Olivia if she is the sister from the intro, but the other three?
 

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Actually, we do know why Alexander's sisters left. They adored Callista and after Casllista walked in on Alexander shagging Elena, Callista's BFF, they all became so angry over Alexander's betrayal of Callista that they left Alexander. It's not clear (to me, at least) where the sisters went nor what happened to them but some hints were dropped that
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Unless its revealed in this update, we have no real idea why the sisters left, my theory goes along different lines then the elena incident.

I thought that Nadia is not Cynthias daughter, but Coles. Which would explain why she cares so much about Kane, even when he is a sub, and doesn't get involved in stuff with him.

Doesn't Callista say somebody can not know that she is alive, I assumed that would be the person that holds the trigger and Veronica knows Callista lives.

I also think it is hinted that the woman with the pyramid, that Olivia meets in the flashback, is one of Alexanders sisters.
Yes Nadia is Kane's true sister and yes the woman with the pyramid is the sister that survived. Yea, at the moment the only person that makes sense is alessandra. Olivia, Juliette and Dom need Kane alive to win the gambit. Veronica and Elena know she's alive and astrid would never. This leaves us Yvette and Alessandra. I don't see Yvette turning on her daughters, and Callista did stay in costume when she met alessandra. So by process of elimination, she has to be the mysterious owner of the trigger
 

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Unless its revealed in this update, we have no real idea why the sisters left, my theory goes along different lines then the elena incident.



Yes Nadia is Kane's true sister and yes the woman with the pyramid is the sister that survived. Yea, at the moment the only person that makes sense is alessandra. Olivia, Juliette and Dom need Kane alive to win the gambit. Veronica and Elena know she's alive and astrid would never. This leaves us Yvette and Alessandra. I don't see Yvette turning on her daughters, and Callista did stay in costume when she met alessandra. So by process of elimination, she has to be the mysterious owner of the trigger
Or maybe somebody that is not actually part of the Karlsson family? In the Veronica/Alexander flashback, he trained with Kitty, so it must be Kitty ;). But seriously it could be someone he deeply trusted, they would make it fair, so Kyomi comes to mind, because she could be honor bound to fulfill Alexanders wishes and she also doesn't really align with any of the sisters directly.
 

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Or maybe somebody that is not actually part of the Karlsson family? In the Veronica/Alexander flashback, he trained with Kitty, so it must be Kitty ;). But seriously it could be someone he deeply trusted, they would make it fair, so Kyomi comes to mind, because she could be honor bound to fulfill Alexanders wishes and she also doesn't really align with any of the sisters directly.
Kiyomi knows of callistas existence, it wasnt said out right, but Kiyomi implied that she knew in her convo with otto
 

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While I see your point, IMO Alexander is alot worse esp when we compare how he raised his kids to how Callista raised hers. While yes, Callista fucked him by throwing him into this dangerous world with little to no training, she's doing what she feels that she has to do for his survival. Will that stop me from betraying her at the first opportunity? nope. If Tess allows the player, my Kane is gonna tell callista exactly what he thinks of her.

To address the first part, I think Callista's ultimate plan iw to run the Karlsson syndicate through her son. which is why it would be a betrayal to Callista if Kane turns out to be a tyranical leader.
I don't think her plan is to run Karlsson's company through Kane. Her plan is to make Olivia as queen and Kane as something like Queen Consort dom path or queen servant in sub path. Whether the flashback conversation with Kane or the conversation with elena on bridge or the conversation with veronica in lab, totally proves this.

If Kane wants to be a leader of company, that would be totally his plan and choice. No one is eligible to take that credit behalf of him. Especially callista. I can count on my fingers of characters who wish to see Kane as king of Karlssons. Like Nadia, Katsumi and also surprisingly Tess (cameo in dom path).

And remember, this is only callista's Plan A, she have revolution plan and island4 plans too.
 
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Or maybe somebody that is not actually part of the Karlsson family? In the Veronica/Alexander flashback, he trained with Kitty, so it must be Kitty ;). But seriously it could be someone he deeply trusted, they would make it fair, so Kyomi comes to mind, because she could be honor bound to fulfill Alexanders wishes and she also doesn't really align with any of the sisters directly.
Kiyomi knows Callista is alive. She recognized her in the submarine welcome scene. So did Sonya.
 

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Unless its revealed in this update, we have no real idea why the sisters left, my theory goes along different lines then the elena incident.



Yes Nadia is Kane's true sister and yes the woman with the pyramid is the sister that survived. Yea, at the moment the only person that makes sense is alessandra. Olivia, Juliette and Dom need Kane alive to win the gambit. Veronica and Elena know she's alive and astrid would never. This leaves us Yvette and Alessandra. I don't see Yvette turning on her daughters, and Callista did stay in costume when she met alessandra. So by process of elimination, she has to be the mysterious owner of the trigger
Definitely not Alessandra. Yes she is the best in evil scheming and won many medals and trophies in it, but my gut feeling is that she is not the one. My bet is still on olivia.
 

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Definitely not Alessandra. Yes she is the best in evil scheming and won many medals and trophies in it, but my gut feeling is that she is not the one. My bet is still on olivia.
I understand your reasons, but Olivia/Kane pairing is a very hard pushed ending. And If Kane learns that the only reason he had to endure all of this is Olivia, how could he forgive her? The Olivia knows of her heritage and the gambit thing must already feel like an extreme berayal of her, but being the reason it can be enforced on him, is even harder.


Edit: how about there is no bomb and Alexander just made Callista believe there is one :ROFLMAO:
 

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I understand your reasons, but Olivia/Kane pairing is a very hard pushed ending. And If Kane learns that the only reason he had to endure all of this is Olivia, how could he forgive her? The Olivia knows of her heritage and the gambit thing must already feel like an extreme berayal of her, but being the reason it can be enforced on him, is even harder.


Edit: how about there is no bomb and Alexander just made Callista believe there is one :ROFLMAO:
May be it's not olivia. As Tess once said, we might be looking all in one dimension. So, if we think of this in multi dimension, then, Although the scene with Alexander death bed is with olivia, there is no guarantee that she is has the remote to kane's kill switch. Both could be entirely different persons too.
 

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PickerLewd note: yes, it's Anais's writing style, which makes it hard to understand anything :HideThePain:.
Yeah...there's a a problem with that, although I did like that she had a sense of humor.
I'm more math/gaming/creative drawing kind of girl than beautiful writer so I stop while not digging bigger hole, haha!
And from the looks of it, Tess' involvement in TQA as a writer is not so much a whim as a pressing need. :KEK:
 
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Definitely not Alessandra. Yes she is the best in evil scheming and won many medals and trophies in it, but my gut feeling is that she is not the one. My bet is still on olivia.
Olivia needs Kane alive to inherit the company. Unless it's claudia which would be out of left field or someone we arent introduced to, Alessandra is the only one that makes sense.
 

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Then why the evil domoness in sub path is very interested to kill k1 kane?
Maybe because demoness evil is kinda stupidly evil? I am actually serious with that, maybe Olivia being super extremly evil to Kane, while he is extremly unsuccesfull, is just Olivia fucking up for the first time. Up to this point Olivia can't really make mistakes, but after the game show, things might get more serious for her too. Based on the final conversation of Veronica and Alessandra at the end of the current content, I asume that the happy time for the Karlssons is coming to an end and they can be themselves in danger too (in Episode 10 one of them can die, according to the discord). Since Kane dying is an early game over this could be a first taste of Olivia needing to be smart now too. Also I still think Kane dying early will just mean open war between the Karlssons and the DeCocks, therefore possible bad end for Olivia too.

Olivia needs Kane alive to inherit the company. Unless it's claudia which would be out of left field or someone we arent introduced to, Alessandra is the only one that makes sense.
They you assume the masked sister in the conversation with the Gambit Queen is not Alessandra? I think it is kinda hinted, that the masked sisters knows that the queen is Callista (the comment about the speaker fun and the voice changer, made me thought so), which would also eliminate Alessandra as the trigger holder.

Maybe the trigger holder is just the unknown 7th board member (or is the 7th member just Astrid and I missed that?).
 
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Maybe because demoness evil is kinda stupidly evil? I am actually serious with that, maybe Olivia being super extremly evil to Kane, while he is extremly unsuccesfull, is just Olivia fucking up for the first time. Up to this point Olivia can't really make mistakes, but after the game show, things might get more serious for her too. Based on the final conversation of Veronica and Alessandra at the end of the current content, I asume that the happy time for the Karlssons is coming to an end and they can be themselves in danger too (in Episode 10 one of them can die, according to the discord). Since Kane dying is an early game over this could be a first taste of Olivia needing to be smart now too. Also I still think Kane dying early will just mean open war between the Karlssons and the DeCocks, therefore possible bad end for Olivia too.


They you assume the masked sister in the conversation with the Gambit Queen is not Alessandra? I think it is kinda hinted, that the masked sisters knows that the queen is Callista (the comment about the speaker fun and the voice changer, made me thought so), which would also eliminate Alessandra as the trigger holder.

Maybe the trigger holder is just the unknown 7th board member (or is the 7th member just Astrid and I missed that?).
Open war? could be. But, I wont be surprised if they stop going to war, especially cole for the "greater good" and play the savior game instead. Cynthia also may not care that much if cole is not giving a damn about it. Callista alone can't able to do anything even she wants to and she may realize it is already too late to take revenge and join the savior gang instead. I sound of like a doomer man, but bro, Tess is not interested in giving Kane true rewards for being a MC. She just sees him as a pawn instead of protagonist.
 

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Open war? could be. But, I wont be surprised if they stop going to war, especially cole for the "greater good" and play the savior game instead. Cynthia also may not care that much if cole is not giving a damn about it. Callista alone can't able to do anything even she wants to and she may realize it is already too late to take revenge and join the savior gang instead. I sound of like a doomer man, but bro, Tess is not interested in giving Kane true rewards for being a MC. She just sees him as a pawn instead of protagonist.
Get your points, but there already is a lot of tension between the two familys/companies. And I assume at least Callista (and maybe Cole just for her too) will stop giving a fuck about the greater good if Kane dies and Nadia is also very protective of sub Kane.
Kane might not be the most important person in the world but he is a key piece for the truce between the Karlssons and the DeCocks. When he is just killed off I still think it will trigger a lot of shit.
I also have this stance, since this would actually feel like satisfying storytelling to me. I understand your point about him just being a pawn, but he still is the protagonist of the story ;).
Also an early game over, if it is not just a game over screen (lol) should show a little bit of what happens afterwards and an open war that bascially destroys both families -with Veronica just saying fuck it and leaves- could show a world ending scenario without spoling too much for future content.

Edit: I admit maybe I just think something like this would happen, because I want evil decisions basically having consequences ;).
 

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Get your points, but there already is a lot of tension between the two familys/companies. And I assume at least Callista (and maybe Cole just for her too) will stop giving a fuck about the greater good if Kane dies and Nadia is also very protective of sub Kane.
Kane might not be the most important person in the world but he is a key piece for the truce between the Karlssons and the DeCocks. When he is just killed off I still think it will trigger a lot of shit.
I also have this stance, since this would actually feel like satisfying storytelling to me. I understand your point about him just being a pawn, but he still is the protagonist of the story ;).
Also an early game over, if it is not just a game over screen (lol) should show a little bit of what happens afterwards and an open war that bascially destroys both families -with Veronica just saying fuck it and leaves- could show a world ending scenario without spoling too much for future content.

Edit: I admit maybe I just think something like this would happen, because I want evil decisions basically having consequences ;).
On the dom-good route, Kane is the key because he offers the bridge between the two power families--Karlssons & DeKocks. Killing him off would be no bueno.

And if he
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Oh, and I believe Cole is the 7th board member as a founder. Unless Alexander was able to kick him off, I'd expect there were enough votes to keep him there. Guess we'll find out in the coming updates.
 
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Then why the evil domoness in sub path is very interested to kill k1 kane?
Hard to say without seeing the sub path, but if Elena isn't correcting that action, she's fucking up.
They you assume the masked sister in the conversation with the Gambit Queen is not Alessandra? I think it is kinda hinted, that the masked sisters knows that the queen is Callista (the comment about the speaker fun and the voice changer, made me thought so), which would also eliminate Alessandra as the trigger holder.

Maybe the trigger holder is just the unknown 7th board member (or is the 7th member just Astrid and I missed that?).
Nope I know for a fact that the masked figure is Alessandra. She knows the queen is hiding her identity, but she has no idea who the queen is, nor did Callista reveal herself to her.
 

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Hard to say without seeing the sub path, but if Elena isn't correcting that action, she's fucking up.


Nope I know for a fact that the masked figure is Alessandra. She knows the queen is hiding her identity, but she has no idea who the queen is, nor did Callista reveal herself to her.
The Walkthroug claims Kane can die if Olivia doesn't says he is protected, so he should be able to die here, I assume in the last game, since we learn on sub path, that everybody who doesn't make it past a certain point in that game, while somebody is finishing it, will be killed by the VIPs.

Intresting, I also assumed it is Alessandra, but how can you be sure? Also I was under the impression she knows who the queen is but, yeah it is not certain, so you could be right. So you think Callista is playing her, to ensure Kane lives?

Oh, and I believe Cole is the 7th board member as a founder. Unless Alexander was able to kick him off, I'd expect there were enough votes to keep him there. Guess we'll find out in the coming updates.
But then Dominque would hold a board member hostage, this seems to be a very dangerous game to play. Also in the converstaion between the masked sister and the Gambit Queen it is stated that all board members can vote. But I don't assume a imprisoned Cole actually can vote.
 
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