VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

Yea, I remembered that Olivia was jumping around and speaking while Kane was likely being born.
But regardless if she's a year old or three years old, I don't think she invented a bomb?

Lot of talk here but I'll say this...whether she did or she didn't...how and when did they get it into Kane hmmm? I'm pretty sure it wasn't when he was a 6 month featus....

That...is the more relevent question don't you think? Expecially on the dom path.

 

[harsha_26]

How many of you think we never to see the end of KG and she will abandon the game in somewhere around 10 or 11th episode?

 

[kinkyshin]

Lot of talk here but I'll say this...whether she did or she didn't...how and when did they get it into Kane hmmm? I'm pretty sure it wasn't when he was a 6 month featus....

That...is the more relevent question don't you think? Expecially on the dom path.

Yea, I would've assumed that Kane was given the 'bomb' when Callista had been forced to take Olivia.
But yea... I guess he wasn't even born yet.

Also, has Tess ever made any mention if Kane and Nadia are twins or not?

 

[Stan5851]

Lot of talk here but I'll say this...whether she did or she didn't...how and when did they get it into Kane hmmm? I'm pretty sure it wasn't when he was a 6 month featus....

That...is the more relevent question don't you think? Expecially on the dom path.

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[Stan5851]

But still, you believe jules got the remote control but not the alesandra lol.

Anyway, personally, I hate Alesandra the most in Karlsson sisters and next veronica (non-Stacy). Since Veronica is another immortal goddess like her full sister Astrid and de-cock bitch deliah, I feel so happy if we get chance to take some revenge against Alesandra.

It's not a matter of believing or not believing. To be honest, I have no idea who Calista's real enemy is, who doesn't know she's alive. I simply speculated on who could have done it, assuming we agree (?) with the statement that the original idea to plant the bomb on Kane (as a guarantee that Calista would keep her promises and not help him win the Gambit) belonged to Alexander.

So I don't know what to believe yet, but if Callista has no secret enemies, then we have to consider those we do have. And here, literally everything comes into play, from the potential psychological portrait of one sister or another to things like the fact that Jules hates Veronica, which means she's probably not too thrilled with Callista, whom V still idolizes.

So this whole situation with the bomb remote in Kane's body (if this "bomb" is indeed what we think it is) looks even more confusing than the “who is the 7th member of the Board and is it Astrid or not” question that we have already discussed a hundred times..As always, we have too little initial data.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[harsha_26]

It's not a matter of believing or not believing. To be honest, I have no idea who Calista's real enemy is, who doesn't know she's alive. I simply speculated on who could have done it, assuming we agree (?) with the statement that the original idea to plant the bomb on Kane (as a guarantee that Calista would keep her promises and not help him win the Gambit) belonged to Alexander.

So I don't know what to believe yet, but if Callista has no secret enemies, then we have to consider those we do have. And here, literally everything comes into play, from the potential psychological portrait of one sister or another to things like the fact that Jules hates Veronica, which means she's probably not too thrilled with Callista, whom V still idolizes.

So this whole situation with the bomb remote in Kane's body (if this "bomb" is indeed what we think it is) looks even more confusing than the “who is the 7th member of the Board and is it Astrid or not” question that we have already discussed a hundred times..As always, we have too little initial data.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I thing to mention, when some of players are discussing about bomb theory in discord, Tess suddenly came in conversation and said we are trying to predict all this in a one dimensional way but it is not. And she referred the multiple dimensions of Pink Cube (or triangle I don't remember) given to Olivia. What is that mean, I don't know.

My guess, May be, the bomb theory is not about one Karlsson sis. Multiple big persons involved.

 

[Stan5851]

I thing to mention, when some of players are discussing about bomb theory in discord, Tess suddenly came in conversation and said we are trying to predict all this in a one dimensional way but it is not. And she referred the multiple dimensions of Pink Cube (or triangle I don't remember) given to Olivia. What is that mean, I don't know.

My guess, May be, the bomb theory is not about one Karlsson sis. Multiple big persons involved.

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[kinkyshin]

Alessandra looks like an imp.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Callista was still pregnant when she first ran away with Kane. She was caught soon after and forced to take Olivia with her.
I think we can safely assume that's when the bomb was planted (to ensure that Callista would have Kane and Olivia in the gambit). So Veronica would've been like a year old lol.

Why can we safely assume that he'd be able to safely place a bomb in a baby. A bomb that has to account for growth and all kind of other things likely to set off a bomb.
Besides, Kane had the option of saying no to the gambit when he was in jail. What wouldve happened then? Id argue that the bomb was placed in Kane likely shortly before he entered the gambit.

 

[kinkyshin]

Why can we safely assume that he'd be able to safely place a bomb in a baby. A bomb that has to account for growth and all kind of other things likely to set off a bomb.
Besides, Kane had the option of saying no to the gambit when he was in jail. What wouldve happened then? Id argue that the bomb was placed in Kane likely shortly before he entered the gambit.

Does that really make sense though?

You're telling me Callista faked her own death and THEN the Karlsson Group planted a bomb inside of him!?

Literally the whole reason that Callista did fake her death was because of this bomb lol

Like, at this point in time the DeKock Syndicate is so strong, they could just pick him up and he is safe lol... which completely goes against the whole concept of why Kane even needed to participate in the Gambit in the first place.

Clearly Yvette is not a villain, she is the active contributor for revolution path along with Astrid and even if it's true, Veronica should have already know this truth and alerted callista, but it seems, mother and daughter are still in good relations. I'm not it won't be possible, but very unlikely.


My wishful bet is on Alesandra but, my real bet is on.. Well.. Olivia.. How? Figure it out lol.

btw slight correction but here's a list of the people that know at this point:

Callista
Yvette
Cole
Kiyomi
Otto
Nadia (almost certainly)
Stefan (almost certainly)
Cynthia (almost certainly)
Astrid (almost certainly)
Veronica (almost certainly)
Olivia (most likely)
Elena (most likely)
Grym Gudinna (it's possible?)
And of course, whoever has the detonator.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Does that really make sense though?

You're telling me Callista faked her own death and THEN the Karlsson Group planted a bomb inside of him!?

Literally the whole reason that Callista did fake her death was because of this bomb lol

Like, at this point in time the DeKock Syndicate is so strong, they could just pick him up and he is safe lol... which completely goes against the whole concept of why Kane even needed to participate in the Gambit in the first place.

So again I ask, what happens if Kane says no to the gambit? If they put a bomb in his head to make sure callista has him participate, what happens if he simply says nty and decides to just stay in prison instead? Also it's not as if the Dekocks have a hacker that could disable said controls.... wait.

 

[kinkyshin]

So again I ask, what happens if Kane says no to the gambit? If they put a bomb in his head to make sure callista has him participate, what happens if he simply says nty and decides to just stay in prison instead?

I don't know. This is outside the scope of the story and not something I would ever bother to ponder. Ask Tess.

Also it's not as if the Dekocks have a hacker that could disable said controls.... wait.

Are you implying that Nadia can simply disable the 'bomb' or whatever it is inside of Kane?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I don't know. This is outside the scope of the story and not something I would ever bother to ponder. Ask Tess.


Are you implying that Nadia can simply disable the 'bomb' or whatever it is inside of Kane?

Its not outside the scope of the story, it was a very real option that couldve happened. If it was all about the baby bomb, then the choice shouldnt have been Kane's in regards to the game.

The bombs, the controls to said bomb? sure. If we're making baby bombs, let's go all the way out there.

 

[kinkyshin]

Its not outside the scope of the story, it was a very real option that couldve happened. If it was all about the baby bomb, then the choice shouldnt have been Kane's in regards to the game.

It is. It's like asking me what happens if Harry Potter refuses his Hogwarts letter. Like, I don't know man.

The bombs, the controls to said bomb? sure. If we're making baby bombs, let's go all the way out there.

I think we can safely assume that if Nadia could simply hack the controls to said bomb then she would've already done so. Regardless, I don't see how this relates to our discussion of when the bomb was placed inside of Kane.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

It is. It's like asking me what happens if Harry Potter refuses his Hogwarts letter. Like, I don't know man.


I think we can safely assume that if Nadia could simply hack the controls to said bomb then she would've already done so. Regardless, I don't see how this relates to our discussion of when the bomb was placed inside of Kane.

We're not talking about an acceptance letter to a school. We're talking about people being so desperate to include Kane in the gambit that they placed a baby bomb on him, then they gave Kane the choice of whether to join said gambit. Does that seem logical to you?

I think we can safely assume that Nadia wouldn't know about the baby bomb cuz like most things, Callista's would keepthat shit to herself. Besides, you bought up the Dekocks, not me.

But here's the real question, if Kane had a baby bomb placed on him why did the smartest woman in the world not try to do anything to remove or disable it? Surely she didnt just leave that shit to the whims of a madman.

 

[kinkyshin]

We're not talking about an acceptance letter to a school. We're talking about people being so desperate to include Kane in the gambit that they placed a baby bomb on him, then they gave Kane the choice of whether to join said gambit. Does that seem logical to you?

I think we can safely assume that Nadia wouldn't know about the baby bomb cuz like most things, Callista's would keepthat shit to herself. Besides, you bought up the Dekocks, not me.

But here's the real question, if Kane had a baby bomb placed on him why did the smartest woman in the world not try to do anything to remove or disable it? Surely she didnt just leave that shit to the whims of a madman.

You know what, I just realized you were right about everything and the bomb was placed inside Kane whenever you said it was.

 

[rai1230]

do we know who implemented the bomb inside kane??

 

[harsha_26]

Does that really make sense though?

You're telling me Callista faked her own death and THEN the Karlsson Group planted a bomb inside of him!?

Literally the whole reason that Callista did fake her death was because of this bomb lol

Like, at this point in time the DeKock Syndicate is so strong, they could just pick him up and he is safe lol... which completely goes against the whole concept of why Kane even needed to participate in the Gambit in the first place.


btw slight correction but here's a list of the people that know at this point:

Callista
Yvette
Cole
Kiyomi
Otto
Nadia (almost certainly)
Stefan (almost certainly)
Cynthia (almost certainly)
Astrid (almost certainly)
Veronica (almost certainly)
Olivia (most likely)
Elena (most likely)
Grym Gudinna (it's possible?)
And of course, whoever has the detonator.

"And Whoever is the detonator", Sorry, but you already mentioned her in your list.

 

[Sick Bubblegum]

There's no baby bomb, and the earth is not flat. It could be the threat of the disease inflicted on Seth and Astrid.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

This VN uses an impressive number of flags and variables. The data transfer from season 1 to season 2 contains more than 300 (!) values. Right from the start the player can make choices which increase/decrease variables but most of them seem to just store player actions and may trigger small dialog variations without changing the course of the story. For example elena_p, Elena's opinion on mc (player), can increase/decrease based on player choices but is NEVER evaluated so far, so the player can completely ignore the value when playing current version E1 to E8.2.

Is there a list of the really important variables which fork the story?

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