VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.31 TestB] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[minibaer12]

I have a question for the insiders: What's the deal with version number 0.8.3.1? Does this mean that there will be further updates beyond v0.8.3? .2, .3, etc.?

 

[FinrayB]

Lol, I got blocked by the creator on Patreon for leaking.

I mean.. at least you saved yourself a few hundred bucks

 

[BurgRoyce]

The writing has always had major issues. Most people don't read books and don't know what good writing is. And that's fine, it's really all relative and pointless. I don't believe for a second she wrote out 200 pages or whatever of content, if she did it was scribbles and rambling, not an actual outline or treatment. Most of this is clearly made up as she goes along for every update.

Which again, is totally fine. It's a porn game, and it's a great one. But it was always mind boggling to me to treat this is as high literature, as some have tried to.

There's another possibility: Maybe Tess really wrote a document with a fuckton of pages.. Full of incoherences

 

[harsha_26]

I have a question for the insiders: What's the deal with version number 0.8.3.1? Does this mean that there will be further updates beyond v0.8.3? .2, .3, etc.?

Her Initial plan for episode 8 is three parts. 8.1, 8.2, 8.3.
Both 8.1 & 8.2 released as whole parts. But, she changed plans and divided 8.3 into two parts namely 8.3.1 & 8.3.2.
8.3.1 (test version) is released, soon she will release 8.3.1 final release.
And god knows when she will develop and release 8.3.2 (which intended to the last part of episode 8).

 

[minibaer12]

Her Initial plan for episode 8 is three parts. 8.1, 8.2, 8.3.
Both 8.1 & 8.2 released as whole parts. But, she changed plans and divided 8.3 into two parts namely 8.3.1 & 8.3.2.
8.3.1 (test version) is released, soon she will release 8.3.1 final release.
And god knows when she will develop and release 8.3.2 (which intended to the last part of episode 8).

I won't deny it, but I was kind of expecting your answer. And I won't deny that I don't approve of her decision!

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Yea, but no one (including Alessandra) actually knows what Olivia is truly thinking. She lies as easily as she breaths. Hell, even her thoughts (which only the readers see) are lies.

What's bumming me out though is that it now seems that Olivia and Alessandra have known each other for a long time, which makes their first meeting in episode 1 completely nonsensical. Before this update, the logical conclusion was that Olivia knew more than she let on when she had first met Alessandra, and that Alessandra knew that Olivia knew more than she was letting on. But now it seems that they have known each other the whole time which makes that whole conversation they had when they met completely absurd. I've always thought that the writing was fantastic, but now I'm starting to have doubts. This update was doo-doo.

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[f96zonetrooper]

I won't deny it, but I was kind of expecting your answer. And I won't deny that I don't approve of her decision!

It's caused by the increasing number of renders per update due to more animations and branching of the story ...

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[MilesEdgeworth]

yea the game is getting really big which likely means not only will we lose certain paths, but will also likely lose the ability to kill characters during the game since that would create a need for even more renders.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Yea, but no one (including Alessandra) actually knows what Olivia is truly thinking. She lies as easily as she breaths. Hell, even her thoughts (which only the readers see) are lies.

What's bumming me out though is that it now seems that Olivia and Alessandra have known each other for a long time, which makes their first meeting in episode 1 completely nonsensical. Before this update, the logical conclusion was that Olivia knew more than she let on when she had first met Alessandra, and that Alessandra knew that Olivia knew more than she was letting on. But now it seems that they have known each other the whole time which makes that whole conversation they had when they met completely absurd. I've always thought that the writing was fantastic but now I'm starting to have doubts. This update was doo-doo.

Did you re-read the first scene of Season 1 with Alexander Karlsson in the hospital, now knowing that Olivia knew the doctor?
ak "Can you play her song? One last time."
I posted the script here :
https://f95zone.to/threads/karlssons-gambit-v0-8-31-testb-grym-gudinna-games.50840/post-18650518

It seems Tess planned the deception of the players right from the start to have more surprising reveals throughout the VN ...

 

[kinkyshin]

Did you re-read the first scene of Season 1 with Alexander Karlsson in the hospital, now knowing that Olivia knew the doctor?
ak "Can you play her song? One last time."
I posted the script here :
https://f95zone.to/threads/karlssons-gambit-v0-8-31-testb-grym-gudinna-games.50840/post-18650518

It seems Tess planned the deception of the players right from the start to have more surprising reveals throughout the VN ...

Yea, I mean we knew this like 5 episodes ago...

Just because Olivia had spent time with Alexander doesn't mean that she and Alessandra had actually met before which now seems to be the case.

 

[harsha_26]

It's interesting to see what role Alessandra would play in pure dom paths (good and evil). Pure Dom routes has the lowest story content with her (except the netori stuff with celeste and co). Her plan is clearly about female supremacy directly (sub) or indirectly (ss) which is totally against most of pure dom goals (either it is revolution or kane ruling as single or sharing equal power with gambit girl).

 

[Igetby]

Man, Dominique's bullshit excuses for her sadism in her "good" path were really disgusting. Even insulting.
There's no way to redeem that bitch. At least Juliette's honest about her nature.

The further the story develops the more Juliete gets explained and Domonique just sounds more "super evil" for super evil sake.

 

[Igetby]

yea the game is getting really big which likely means not only will we lose certain paths, but will also likely lose the ability to kill characters during the game since that would create a need for even more renders.

Was acknowledged earlier this year around three paths were no longer in the picture.

 

[Don Sucio]

Her Initial plan for episode 8 is three parts. 8.1, 8.2, 8.3.
Both 8.1 & 8.2 released as whole parts. But, she changed plans and divided 8.3 into two parts namely 8.3.1 & 8.3.2.
8.3.1 (test version) is released, soon she will release 8.3.1 final release.
And god knows when she will develop and release 8.3.2 (which intended to the last part of episode 8).

Mhm, I don't like when devs divide chapters into many parts , it feels...disrupted.
I mean, she is spliting three parts into more parts

The amount of renders must be enormous?

 

[harsha_26]

Mhm, I don't like when devs divide chapters into many parts , it feels...disrupted.
I mean, she is spliting three parts into more parts

The amount of renders must be enormous?

My blind guess (might be wrong) is.. She got stuck in the storytelling. She knows her destiny (planned factions and endings already), but lost the path to destiny and going round in circles.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

My blind guess (might be wrong) is.. She got stuck in the storytelling. She knows her destiny (planned factions and endings already), but lost the path to destiny and going round in circles.

It's more : ... getting lost in details ...

Every meaningful choice adds additional effort ...

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[harsha_26]

It's more : ... getting lost in details ...

Every meaningful choice adds additional effort ...

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Wow, thanks for telling me that this game never going to be completed lol. Very sad.

 

[Merlin-Magic]

My blind guess (might be wrong) is.. She got stuck in the storytelling. She knows her destiny (planned factions and endings already), but lost the path to destiny and going round in circles.

My blind guess (might be wrong) is.. She got stuck in the storytelling. She knows her destiny (planned factions and endings already), but lost the path to destiny and going round in circles.

I think you are both right. Adding each path increases the complexity almost exponentially. This creates it's own problems, but if you loose focus in your writing, all these paths become nearly impossible to resolve. You cannot figure out where to continue with the story, because you have created too many possibilities. While the player is only dealing with possibly one or two paths, the developer has to maintain a story with all of those paths. If you are not 110% focused, you loose your ability to maintain almost any path to get to the final destination. Your story lines begin to fall apart and start to go in circles.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

yea, she has her traditional story, which is easy and straightforward. However then she has to then split up the non traditional part of the story into dom and sub. Then she has to split those two paths up according to levels. Its easy to see how the story can get out of hand from what one planned.
If Im not mistaken her original plan was for 14 endings, that's pretty much impossible with a one person operation.

 

[motseer]

yea, she has her traditional story, which is easy and straightforward. However then she has to then split up the non traditional part of the story into dom and sub. Then she has to split those two paths up according to levels. Its easy to see how the story can get out of hand from what one planned.
If Im not mistaken her original plan was for 14 endings, that's pretty much impossible with a one person operation.

You guys are leaving out one major loophole. This is a story that easily allows Tess an out by killing, trading or selling a few people. Heh, Jus' Sayin'