MilesEdgeworth

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So, does nobody know how to troubleshoot this game? For the record, I went back to the 0.8.2 finalB version of the game, played all the way to the screen that tells you to save, saved there on 2 separate runs. copied those save files into 0.8.31 TestB's saves folder, and these also just give error messages without loading! Here is the traceback report ren'py gave me:

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So, any idea what's happening and why I can't load any save? I was hoping I'd sacrifice this weekend to Dark Queen Olivia and Goddess Juliette :love:, not to staring at code like an idiot, o_O so any help would be greatly appreciated! Have a great night everyone!
Don't know if you want to put in so much effort, but the best way is probs use the sancho mod for season 1 which automatically collects saves for season 2 and remove the mod once you hit chapter 2.
 
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I think so.

This chain of events in 8.3.1test starts with :
Code:
if k1pro or k2 or k3 or k4:
It requires bflagsubone :
Code:
if marialivessub:
    $ bflagsubone = True
The event to save Maria should be available to all subs (K2-K4) and should happen before getting demoted to K1pro at the end of E6.
Interesting. It means, when the time comes K1 kane will be saved by the sponsorship mistress or veronica, otherwise murdered.
 

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Don't know if you want to put in so much effort, but the best way is probs use the sancho mod for season 1 which automatically collects saves for season 2 and remove the mod once you hit chapter 2.
You mean do it all again? Cause I have used Sancho mod for season 1 for all of my 3 runs (2 sub ones with different sposors + 1 secret sub) and I have saves from the end of the last update, not from season 1, and it is those saves that don't load in the new test version...

Did you consider that ren'py games have 2 save locations and that Tess did not change the name of the folder in AppData for the test? This may cause problems if you switch between different versions who all use the same AppData folder.

Save Locations :
1. in the game folder, eg ...\KarlssonsGambit-0.8.31TestB-pc\game\saves
2. in AppData :
path : C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\Tess_is_wonderful

I actually renamed my v0.8.2b Tess_is_wonderful folder before playing the test version to not corrupt it.
Thanks for the answer! I just copied my old saves (from a different PC) into the "saves" folder inside the game, so I will try the AppData ren'py path as well and update this post if it worked. (or didn't) Thanks for the suggestion anyway! :)

EDIT: I'm still getting a very long error message even if I put the saves in the app data Tess_is_wonderful folder - this is the traceback:

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I can't tell from any of this what the issue is - most of them seem to be "event" related errors... :unsure: Could it be that it's bc I used a mod in 0.8.2B Final? Sancho mod is no longer around ofc, but I think I used a similar more basic mod when I played the last version. (that tells you what values a choice affects and so on) Did any of you guys use a mod on the previous version and, if so, did you have to do something to make the saves portable to this one?

EDIT 2: Was there any mod for the last version, or do I misremember? I might just give up, import the season 1 saves again and skip scenes for about an hour or so, but I wanted to avoid that as I changed my laptop since the last update and the old one is slow and kinda broken, so it's a hassle to boot it up and copy more saves
 
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Could it be that it's bc I used a mod in 0.8.2B Final? Sancho mod is no longer around ofc, but I think I used a similar more basic mod when I played the last version. (that tells you what values a choice affects and so on) Did any of you guys use a mod on the previous version and, if so, did you have to do something to make the saves portable to this one?
If you used Steely's mod for 8.1/2....then you will not be able to continue until he updates it (which he most likely won't until the full release is out).

This is the same for 98% of WT mods out there, you have to wait for the updated mod (same version as game) until you can continue.

This is not new news.
 
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O yea, there are no mods for the test version and yes steely said he wouldnt update it for the test version because too much work for a version thats not final.

I realized one thing that I havent seen is Juliette scheming. Other than her scheme of teaming with dom on sub kane ( which was dom's idea). Her whole plan has been to just show Kane how much fun it is being around her. All the other non veronica sisters are scheming and Juliette's apparently too wrapped up in being evil.
 

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O yea, there are no mods for the test version and yes steely said he wouldnt update it for the test version because too much work for a version thats not final.

I realized one thing that I havent seen is Juliette scheming. Other than her scheme of teaming with dom on sub kane ( which was dom's idea). Her whole plan has been to just show Kane how much fun it is being around her. All the other non veronica sisters are scheming and Juliette's apparently too wrapped up in being evil.
I fear the ones who are evil at scheming than the ones who are honest at evil.

So, even though Juli may be the most evil sister.. When its time, I'm sure it will be more easy to handle juli compare to other sisters. (excluding olivia, because she is flexible for all factions) .

Alessandra. That girl. In her one of introductory scene, What she did to that small time businesswoman (Diane?) and her lover is still the saddest thing I ever seen in this game. She is the most I fear in this game.
 
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I fear the ones who are evil at scheming than the ones who are honest at evil.

So, even though Juli may be the most evil sister.. When its time, I'm sure it will be more easy to handle juli compare to other sisters. (excluding olivia, because she is flexible for all factions) .

Alessandra. That girl. In her one of introductory scene, What she did to that small time businesswoman (Diane?) and her lover is still the saddest thing I ever seen in this game. She is the most I fear in this game.
Funniest thing is it was the angelic Veronica that delivered them to her as a surprise present.

Also in terms of evil, making that dehydrated man count to 1000 was quite evil.
 
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You mean do it all again? Cause I have used Sancho mod for season 1 for all of my 3 runs (2 sub ones with different sposors + 1 secret sub) and I have saves from the end of the last update, not from season 1, and it is those saves that don't load in the new test version...
I would suggest to just start over using your Season 1 transfer files ...
Use "Skip (un)seen Text" (options, CTRL-key) to rush through known E8.1 and E8.2 content.
Do not bother too much with variables like sponsors ... it will likely take more years to get to a point where such variables will matter.

I guess your main goal is to see the new content, so you can just play as you like without aiming for perfection. You likely won't keep the E8.3.1.test save games anyway and replay E8.3.1 content with the final version and official walkthrough.
 

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Funniest thing is it was the angelic Veronica that delivered them to her as a surprise present.

Also in terms of evil, making that dehydrated man count to 1000 was quite evil.
Yeah that thing with dehydrated man also quite evil. And regarding veronica, yeah she is not a good person, that's for sure. Some like Stan5851 say she is good, lot say she is pragmatic. And guys like me consider her as evil (with chances of redemption as STACY). One thing with veronica is, no matter her personal views or flashback with MC, She wants stability of the company and business to run, that means to support co-existence of fellow sisters as long as gambit and island4 events are finished. That's why she turns blind eye to juli things and invests in alessandra evil sadism.

All main characters doing their schemes, all have plans. All have some amount of inside information on what the fuck is happening behind the screen. If anyone there who is oblivious to all these, just trying to survive and fuck some girls alongside is Dumb Kane.
 
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Rather than evil I think you're supposed to see Veronica as a superhuman alien intelligence who wants to do the Greater Good™ so any seemingly evil deeds she does - including collaborating or maintaining the peace with her evil sisters - such as delivering the couple to Alessandra are waved away as having been calculated to the smallest % probability as necessary to reach the greater good/save mankind.
 
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Rather than evil I think you're supposed to see Veronica as a superhuman alien intelligence who wants to do the Greater Good™ so any seemingly evil deeds she does - including collaborating or maintaining the peace with her evil sisters - such as delivering the couple to Alessandra are waved away as having been calculated to the smallest % probability as necessary to reach the greater good/save mankind.
And Veronica becoming the so called "saviour" is canon no matter what path or decisions you take. Kane choices are useless for her ultimate fate. Your only choice is to join her (B), or co-exist (A&C), or let her go (evil factions). "The greatest immortal goddess". This kills all my thrill of this game for veronica.
 

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... And regarding veronica, yeah she is not a good person, that's for sure. ...
You should consider the date of release for these episodes.

Some "Evil" Veronica content dates back to 2020.
I guess that in the past years Tess has changed her plans for Veronica, so if Tess would look at Season 1 again she might rewrite some of the scenes to better fit the current narrative.
 
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You should consider the date of release for these episodes.

Some "Evil" Veronica content dates back to 2020.
I guess that in the past years Tess has changed her plans for Veronica, so if Tess would look at Season 1 again she might rewrite some of the scenes to better fit the current narrative.
Yeah, This could be right. But It is Tess we are talking about. She never accpets her faults, especially when it comes to veronica. She is like her alter ego while astrid is for anais.
 

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Yeah, This could be right. But It is Tess we are talking about. She never accpets her faults, especially when it comes to veronica. She is like her alter ego while astrid is for anais.
Her alter ego is Alessandra and Anais's alter ego is Delilah.
 

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Her alter ego is Alessandra and Anais's alter ego is Delilah.
I said those according to my thoughts towards them. Because, she always said that veronica is her best character with so many heroic plans, and Yvette reminds her of her own mother and Astrid is totally a anais game's Main LI. She gives value to the two characters and given them immortality powers.

But true, that cruel girl delilah also will be survived just because she is the real alter ego confirmed by anais. Although I never seen tess saying Alessandra is her alter ego.
 

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AfaIk :

You can play the game without a save from Season 1.
All 330+ variables taken from Season 1 are initialised with default values in the script before loading.
If loading fails due to a missing "Karlssons.gambit.s1" you get an error which can be ignored.
You will then proceed with default values which will usually give you the default dom events due to how branching is coded. All your rank variables are false, so you usually get the "else"/"elif True" branch.

Example : default -> e8kdomstart

Code:
label eightforkone:

    if k1pro or k2 or k3 or k4:
        jump subisland
    elif True:
        jump e8domstart

...

label e8domstart:

    if k9:
        jump e8k9start
    elif True:
        jump e8kdomstart

2. If you want to change default values, you can do the following :

Place the following file "initialisation.rpy" in folder "...\KarlssonsGambit-0.8.31TestB-pc\game".
(Right-click -> Save target as ...)
Use an editor like Notepad++ and edit the (default) values in lines 234 - 571
Rank variables are spread out since all variables are grouped per Episode when first used.
k9 is currently highest rank.
The custom names are last.

Important :
You have to start the game once to get the edited initialisation.rpy compiled to initialisation.rpyc.
Exit KarlssonsGambit.exe and start again so that your edited defaults are used.

Use Start, select "None" and ignore the following error.


If you later want to get rid of this "cheat" :
- delete the *.rpy and the respective *.rpyc file in the "\game" folder.
- delete/move all saves since these saves are likely "corrupt" since they probably do not represent a set of variable values obtained by a regular playthrough.
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In case you get unexpected results/errors, don't report them in the forum/discord since they are based on "cheating".

Important Note :
This file initialisation.rpy belongs to KarlssonsGambit-0.8.31TestB-pc. Don't use it with other versions of KG!!!

Have fun.
Over three hundred variables? That's insane for a single developer!
 
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And Veronica becoming the so called "saviour" is canon no matter what path or decisions you take. Kane choices are useless for her ultimate fate. Your only choice is to join her (B), or co-exist (A&C), or let her go (evil factions). "The greatest immortal goddess". This kills all my thrill of this game for veronica.
Absolutly agree on this. I think Veroinca and Dominique are actually the worst of the sisters. Juliette and Alessandra are just fucking psychopaths that are seriously fucked in the head. Dominique actually understands what she's doing is wrong but still enjoys it. Veronica on the other hand is trying to justify everything with the greater good ... but if she is such a fucking genius as the game tells you all the time, she should have tried to find a better way.
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I think its a big miss that there will be no ending in which Kane frees himself with help of the revolution and can go on a murder spree and gets to kill off all the fucked up bitches - including Veronica. Basically a let the world burn ending in which Kane can destroy all of Veronica's work and dooms the world, just because he has seen the worst of humanity and doesn't think it's worth saving.

I think my biggest criticism of the game is that it is very often just too evil to actually enjoy it as fapping material. But maybe thats just me :unsure:
 

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I said those according to my thoughts towards them. Because, she always said that veronica is her best character with so many heroic plans, and Yvette reminds her of her own mother and Astrid is totally a anais game's Main LI. She gives value to the two characters and given them immortality powers.

But true, that cruel girl delilah also will be survived just because she is the real alter ego confirmed by anais. Although I never seen tess saying Alessandra is her alter ego.
I say that because Tess introduced herself as grymm gudina just like Alessandra does. That plus might just be me but those two resemble each other
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Absolutly agree on this. I think Veroinca and Dominique are actually the worst of the sisters. Juliette and Alessandra are just fucking psychopaths that are seriously fucked in the head. Dominique actually understands what she's doing is wrong but still enjoys it. Veronica on the other hand is trying to justify everything with the greater good ... but if she is such a fucking genius as the game tells you all the time, she should have tried to find a better way.
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I think its a big miss that there will be no ending in which Kane frees himself with help of the revolution and can go on a murder spree and gets to kill off all the fucked up bitches - including Veronica. Basically a let the world burn ending in which Kane can destroy all of Veronica's work and dooms the world, just because he has seen the worst of humanity and doesn't think it's worth saving.

I think my biggest criticism of the game is that it is very often just too evil to actually enjoy it as fapping material. But maybe thats just me :unsure:
No. I can definitely say it's not just you.

But yes, there are more in doms that support the "good domination" compare to evil dom. In evil dom also, some dom players want to work alongside evil sisters and have evil romance instead of burning or over throwing them under his legs.

Most of the players who truly want to burn the karlssons (*Long Ranger) or atleast have them all under his legs (*Red Domination) have left this game already except players like me still hanging to it somehow.

*Note if you are not familiar: Long Ranger and Red Domination are cancelled endings.
 
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