Kintaroe

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So they make a rock-paper-scissors combat and call it innovation in gaming? Lol. It feels like porn was an afterthought in this game, kind of like modern Oneone1 games, where they make a story and add hentai afterward. Karryn is mechanics first and porn an afterthought. Rem is obsessed with mechanics he impresses himself with, while Sachinama just makes a billion facial differences so that he will have a harder time making new CG according to standard.

They based all the porn on mechanics and now it feels more like a demo than a game. Honestly, it didn't change much from 0.7, 0.6 versions. The enemies are all bland, though the yeti is a bit of twist amongst them. The only characters that have hentai-related powers is the Nerd and the Doctor, and they're both fairly bland abilities. For all their talk about eroticism, this game is coming up lacking, the portrait changes are too minimal.

Gym is not even mechanically interesting, it's like the god-awful bar job but has some porn in it. Meltys Quest was at least reasonably erotic in content, but Karryn feels like a step backward if they leave it like this. Actually, they will have to change their perspective on how they do things, if they want to fix Karryn - which I doubt will happen.
all this essay shitting on the game, why are you even here wasting your time then
 

Bimbo Barbie

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Don't charge money like a product then! Just ask people to donate money for free to help him with his creative art.
So, in your selfserving opinion, anyone who offers a service or product that doesn't meet up to your (probably impossible) standards is not allowed to ask money for a compensation for their time. Not to mention you're pirating the game like a crook and complaining about it, implied if this is what you truly believe. I think that's a pretty dumb way of thinking... very low iq indeed.

Besides. The game is great. What are you even talking about. If any game on this entire site should get on a list of 'deserving monetary compensation for a great contribution to the h-culture', then it should be team Remtairy for trying to up the standards.

If you don't like me for some reason like some other internet keyboard warriors here who make a sport out of facepalming my posts like a religion that's also not a great reason to just crap all over a dev/team that at least was upfront enough to just say what was on his mind about the project. Like I said, he's not yanderedev. The team made a great product. I don't know what peoples problem is other than (free) instant gratification and self-serving consumerism. Stop being a tard.
 

Bimbo Barbie

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I'd agree with you if it was just him. But it's clearly a lot more if he is getting harassed to the point the Dev has to take a break. Karryn was created to cater to the wants of the players of Karryn. The dev created it to sell to any potential players, not because he just wanted to make it randomly. If those players are demanding change then either the product changes course to meet their demands or something like this happens. What the dev wants literally does not matter, it doesn't matter for any game in existence. The player's /payers wants are the ONLY thing that matters. It might sound harsh but this is not a unique situation. We can see it happen over and over with Battlefield, Ghostbusters, Velma, Halo etc.
Besides anything you said, you're missing the point here. There is a complete game available on Steam. The product is in it's finished state. It's not a gacha game, there is no promise of continued development, and they did at least a decent job cleaning up bugs and sticking to polishing the game after release. It's not fair to demand more and more.
And yes the DLC had been announced and placed on the horizon, he adresses that, but it's not the main game. There was even a beta, so he's not pulling a yanderedev. I think that's a good comparison to make here.

And no man, the players demands is not all that matters, not by a long shot (players didn't design the game for one, players judge a product with their wallet and are not involved in the development journey), and you're naming a bunch of mass production companies with normie-AAA-titles that enlist hundreds of people to their firm they have to feed. That's like comparing your local restaurant to mcDonalds. It's not politicized or drowned in bureaucracy... Gremory is a local mom and pop shop just trying to make good food and doing the things they love to do. And it seems the joy is being sucked out of it.

I don't know why people have such a hard time cooping with reality. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on wanting to be toxic or not, since at least you made some reflection on the way you sound a bit harsh. Dissapointment, I can understand, but the reasoning not. Your argument may not be solid, but at least you have that sense of decency still present. I commend you.
 

Rakasob

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Bruh. The fact he even released a DLC like Stray pubes (which I remember some guy on this thread thought up like a year ago and worked up some art for as I gave feedback on said art for 'a mod') is already quite spectacular imo. Not coming through on promises doesn't bother anyone when it comes to politicians. So people should look in the mirror if they want to send death threats. Go murder some politician or something, at least they deserve it. :)

Also. He seriously took his time to write lol. Legend. People who use more than 5 sentences to communicate deserve respect. Not trying to simp. But if this is it for him, that's fine with me. Historty has been made, and he sure as hell wasn't a yanderedev.



Edit: Some fat neet wrote he thought this game wasn't innovative, and that it wasn't erotic or something. He should just go and watch porn already or something if all he cares for is moving pictures. Your mom reads shitty cheap romantic dimestore novels and I don't hear her complain, so what's up your butt? Sad the DLC is on hold or something? What are you doing on this thread cursing in a church for? Go play some 'pick boner option' dialogue VN's if a real attempt to making a game bothers you enough to take a dump on someones hard work. Also, Dragonball Legends is also a 'rock-scissor-paper' combat game. Top 10 mobile game on the planet. Breaks with conventions amongst competitors for 'not' being an excuse to sell jpegs through a slotmachine with extra step. Same thing goes for KP. Finally an actual game that finishes what it set out to do with clear succes. I'd love to hear you take a dump on DB Legends just to hear you tear down my comparison and explain how all this 'rock-paper-scissors' combat is not "innovative" again. Your brain is big and cultured I'd love to learn more senpai.
Nice adhom, but I'm right and you're wrong.
 

DemonLord98

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i've read his post, its clear that a large amount of negative feedback is being provided because the DLC wasn't what people wanted and the game felt unfinished. You and I don't know the data regarding feedback, the dev does. And he is clearly bothered by the large negative criticism he is receiving.

I don't know what the second point is, the game was clearly made for profit. He has made a successful game before and he has all the proper channels for player funding. it is in no way comparable to an artist drawing fan art or something. Sure not every aspect has to be made to appease the playerbase (although it 100% should be) but atleast the vast majority of any product should be made to satisfy the people funding it.

No lol, all of those products were created with the creator's vision of what the consumer base wanted. And it turned out the creators vision and the customers wants were completely unaligned. Which resulted in massive backlash. Same thing is happening here. A great case study for this actually would be the sonic movie. The sonic design was terrible and everyone was raging against it, Jim Carrey came out for the artists vision (much like you) and was against changing anything. But changing the design was probably the best decision they ever made.

If that is the case, then it was probably because your vision and your consumers wants were always aligned. But if the two sides were to ever have a complete disagreement, I'd say the consumer's wants take 100% priority (given you are being paid).
I would NEVER have paid to go see Sonic if they kept that fucking awful original design!
 

tetrayrok

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I know that feel so fucking bad. It's awful.



But this is the same moronic logic that Nintendo gives out to tell us why they won't make any more F-Zero games. Why do people always have to overcomplicate this stuff?

If people want more content, then give them more content. It's literally as simple as that. You don't need to reinvent the fucking wheel, no one asked you to reinvent the wheel, no one even wants you to reinvent the wheel because the wheel is fucking fine and that's why they bought it in the first place. For fuck's sake, this asinine logic pisses me off so fucking much whenever it pops up.
I don't think the issue is that he doesn't want to make content for the GYM DLC. It's the fact that his brain is frozen on how to mechanically do it in a way that he and rem accepts. He's essentially writer blocked being the only writer in a company.
 
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EmilIrving

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I would NEVER have paid to go see Sonic if they kept that fucking awful original design!
I would never have gone seen it either if that design stayed. But let's be real. That change only happened due to the fanbase, which is usually divided on almost everything but the original Sonic games, Sonic 06, Sonic Generation, Sonic Frontier, and movie Sonic design, has united for the outcry.
 

Bawunga

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I don't think the issue is that he doesn't want to make content for the GYM DLC. It's the fact that his brain is frozen on how to mechanically do it in a way that he and rem accepts. He's essentially writer blocked being the only writer in a company.
There's probably an element of that, but IMO there's also some stubborness going on (in that they had a vision of what they wanted to do, and being told that that doesn't match up with what other people wanted is difficult to accept) and also even though Rem didn't mention it, the fact that putting his hands up and saying they made a mistake, going back and just caving to what people want would also be a signifcant (and expensive) timesink, which for a DLC is too much to justify.
 

EmilIrving

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There's probably an element of that, but IMO there's also some stubborness going on (in that they had a vision of what they wanted to do, and being told that that doesn't match up with what other people wanted is difficult to accept) and also even though Rem didn't mention it, the fact that putting his hands up and saying they made a mistake, going back and just caving to what people want would also be a signifcant (and expensive) timesink, which for a DLC is too much to justify.
Unfortunately true. Rem practically shot himself in the foot now. He should have just released the DLC anyways, as after all this time, he is in a perma-lose-lose situation. If he and Sachi rework the idea, the price might go up and people already shitting on the DLC will have the justification to say Rem is price-gouging (which will be more true than not, but not the for the reason they will use). But if he makes no attempt to make changes, then what was the point of waiting all this time for?
 
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vocalnight

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So, did they really release a DLC with different hair colors but didn't update the cut-in images hair color or is just me that is still seeing the purple hair in all of them?
 

EmilIrving

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So, did they really release a DLC with different hair colors but didn't update the cut-in images hair color or is just me that is still seeing the purple hair in all of them?
Not just you, I am tempted to ask about that in the discord if it hasn't been mentioned yet.
 

Neriel

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Some takes here are something. Did anybody even bother to look at the feedback the Gym Beta got? The vast majority didn't demand a rework or something. They just wanted some sort of gameplay added that is more in line with what KP is about. And there were multiple ideas people were throwing around, that would not need any more CGs or voicework or anything.

Also just as a Side Note, the idea that they wanted the Gym to be something unique and different, well they failed in achieving that. It is basically Glory Hole 2.0, with that the Desire System is pointless, as a pure Karryn there is no reason to do the Side Job and as a Slut Karryn you just pick what you want to see, for no real reason other to look at pretty pictures. Also there is no direction on what you should do. You just do stuff. That is why the Side Job gets stale extremly fast.
 
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