madchef

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This is a personal opinion, but I feel like the game needs development on the in-game maps.
Usually in most games, we have thoughts and descriptions of the objects and feelings of the characters when they enter certain areas. Something like in resident evil when you pressed an random object on the map, it would launch a brief dialogue about what is that object and how is it perceived. In some RPGs, almost everything on the maps has this characteristic and you feel the MC thoughts a little more.

It doesn't happen almost anywhere here at Karryn's. Take for example the public bathroom on the second floor. Here we have a lot of objects that clearly the Karryn of the beginning would take with disgust such as urinals, the floor and broken mirrors, etc. But when you walk in, absolutely nothing happens except for the glory hole job that takes 99% of the dialogue in this place.
Even now with the scandalous mode, I thought new dialogue would have been added to the cum covered posters but it keeps repeating the same old thing (or a miss something) and it feels like Karryn really doesn't give a shit about his surroundings.

I have no idea if the dev made a clarification on this aspect or not. The game is still in development but I feel like the maps are being relegated with the idea of "nobody cares about this when everyone comes for the porn". Well, the dialogue could just change depending on the slut level if you want a little more sauce for example.
Well, people have grown so used to text heavy H-RPGMaker games, it is hard for them to imagine that things can be done differently. I personally am often bored with these supposedly lewd descriptions of the obvious. 'Show, don't tell' is one of the golden rules of narration. Do you really need to be able to click on a broken mirror, which will do nothing apart from a few lines of text with their flavour affected by current slut level: 'oh, a broken mirror, these prisoners are filthy savages!'; oh, a broken mirror'; 'oh, a mind-broken cumbucket in a broken mirror'? It would make sense, for example, if some areas would require a certain slut level for the Warden to be accessible, so a line or two explaining why she'll not go in there would feel natural and not overexpository. But I don't need further explanation of increasing popularity of the Bar, when I can clearly see it getting crowdier and crowdier. Or the Reception queues. Or the toilet stalls constantly occupied. Or the long line by the class room.

90% of this game is played in battles and minigames with similar battle mechanics. Map exploration is kept to minimum and there are no fetch quests or press button in area A to activate door in area B puzzles. With such setup, it's kinda no big deal that the surroundings are primarily serving as background, mute and with limited interactivity, barebones as them oldschool games used to be. It is in the battles is where you'll read so much smut your eyes will bleed.
 

HeadsExplode

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Well, people have grown so used to text heavy H-RPGMaker games, it is hard for them to imagine that things can be done differently. I personally am often bored with these supposedly lewd descriptions of the obvious. 'Show, don't tell' is one of the golden rules of narration. Do you really need to be able to click on a broken mirror, which will do nothing apart from a few lines of text with their flavour affected by current slut level: 'oh, a broken mirror, these prisoners are filthy savages!'; oh, a broken mirror'; 'oh, a mind-broken cumbucket in a broken mirror'? It would make sense, for example, if some areas would require a certain slut level for the Warden to be accessible, so a line or two explaining why she'll not go in there would feel natural and not overexpository. But I don't need further explanation of increasing popularity of the Bar, when I can clearly see it getting crowdier and crowdier. Or the Reception queues. Or the toilet stalls constantly occupied. Or the long line by the class room.

90% of this game is played in battles and minigames with similar battle mechanics. Map exploration is kept to minimum and there are no fetch quests or press button in area A to activate door in area B puzzles. With such setup, it's kinda no big deal that the surroundings are primarily serving as background, mute and with limited interactivity, barebones as them oldschool games used to be. It is in the battles is where you'll read so much smut your eyes will bleed.
I think it would give more character to her in terms of stuff like the posters to see her reactions to various aspects of the prison (thinking cell doors "get in the way" more as she gets sluttier etc) but I definitely feel the HRPG fatigue of checking every bookcase and other prop because of "There's an item between the pages!" or "Who would store money in a toilet?" situations. I waste a lot less time doing the rpg version of pixel hunting when the game makes it pretty clear there's nothing there like this, which I'm thankful for as well.
I'm glad I'm not trying to open every single box or break every pot used as background decoration or look at every piece of paper thinking its a secret note.
 

madchef

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I think it would give more character to her...
Well, I have this theory that Karryn's character and her story being underdeveloped is a deliberate artistic choice on part of the dev. There are too many places in the game where the player is gently reminded that this is just a spoofy porn game and the Warden is not a fully fleshed dramatis persona, but just a vehicle for your sex fantasy, a rubber doll almost. Notice how she can 'talk' to various NPCs in the corridors, but it is them talking and revealing their personalities and agendas, while Karryn never says anything, except when interacting in order to open a side job scene or purchase meal or freebie. Collectively, these all-male NPCs seem to represent... us, the players, the only actors who bring the 'story' to life.

Her psyche is only revealed in the descriptions of passives, which are exaggerated tropes whose only purpose is to satisfy the pervert in the player indulging his slut-in-the-making fantasy and do not tell us much about who Karryn is. Her infatuation with the Emperor also seems like a part of an erotic trope of a puppy love to be cured with a high dose of cum syrup, not anything serious.

But I could be wrong and all this is just an effect of working on the gameplay and mechanics first, with finishing narrative touches to be put at the very end of the production process.
 
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Can someone please explain what naked walking is? Is it a mod/tweak of the files, or is it a feature/gameplay element of the game itself?
Has scandalous state become the new kick counter? In that it makes a bunch of illiterate tards ask the same question that's been answered over and over again because they're too lazy or stupid to use the search feature for 1 minute?
 

Petrine12

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I think it would give more character to her in terms of stuff like the posters to see her reactions to various aspects of the prison (thinking cell doors "get in the way" more as she gets sluttier etc) but I definitely feel the HRPG fatigue of checking every bookcase and other prop because of "There's an item between the pages!" or "Who would store money in a toilet?" situations. I waste a lot less time doing the rpg version of pixel hunting when the game makes it pretty clear there's nothing there like this, which I'm thankful for as well.
I'm glad I'm not trying to open every single box or break every pot used as background decoration or look at every piece of paper thinking its a secret note.
Yeah, that's not a fun mechanic.

The thing about putting flavor text on random background objects is that once you do it a few times, you trigger the "have to check everything" gamer reflex, which leads to the above exhaustion. Because what if there is a title or item that you only get if you click on the exact right thing, and even worse if it's time sensitive.

For instance, I only knew about it because of this thread, but the pre-game advice cat gives a title after getting petted ten times. AFAIK that's the only type of title acquired like that, but I still have the needling thought in the back of my head: "should I click on everything multiple times?" And let's be real: I'm here to watch Karen get dicked in high quality CGs, not go on a scavenger hunt for text.

*edit: actually that last sentence is underselling the game. The combat is hella unique and the game overall is very addictive despite not being finished.
 
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zoomies

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One person promised a mod, but something he was missing -_- Still wondering when something like this will appear in the game? It just asks ... Like skins ...
the closest thing i have seen for that is in the chinese mod, but i don't know if it has been updated to the new release. it does have the condoms in the prostitution part of the mod.

just curious, what game are the images you posted from?

if you want to use the chinese mod, i think it was posted many pages back from tyrrandae .
i believe he translated the mod. you will have to search his posts to find it.
 

Pa3uk

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the closest thing i have seen for that is in the chinese mod, but i don't know if it has been updated to the new release. it does have the condoms in the prostitution part of the mod.

just curious, what game are the images you posted from?

if you want to use the chinese mod, i think it was posted many pages back from tyrrandae .
i believe he translated the mod. you will have to search his posts to find it.
To be honest, I don't know if it's a GAME or not, but it's ankoman's job - it's 100%. But at first glance there are similarities with Karryns ^ _ ^ .
Thanks for the advice with mod (author) ...
P.S. This comic ([Digianko (Ankoman)] SSS 14.5 (Ghost in the Shell) [Chinese] [輓歌個人漢化] [Digital])
 

buggzy313

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the closest thing i have seen for that is in the chinese mod, but i don't know if it has been updated to the new release. it does have the condoms in the prostitution part of the mod.

just curious, what game are the images you posted from?

if you want to use the chinese mod, i think it was posted many pages back from tyrrandae .
i believe he translated the mod. you will have to search his posts to find it.
they said the condoms are there but unusable i think
 
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