Purple_Heart

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ah well I would like if sometime all those who have great ideas and say that the game is better thanks to them, they have the courage to make their own game, to see if they are so successful with their "opinions and ideas"

Now being creative is very easy, you just have to take a game that is not yours, say how it should be and do exercises of arrogance where you are always right and the developer does not know what he is doing.
I don't understand your point of view. Are you saying developer deserves all the credit for how good this game turned out to be compared to many other trash rpgm games?
 

danadana

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I don't understand your point of view. Are you saying developer deserves all the credit for how good this game turned out to be compared to many other trash rpgm games?
nah it doesn't matter if you haven't understood me let's leave it here, I've already said what I wanted to say so I don't care about the rest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Purple_Heart

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nah it doesn't matter if you haven't understood me let's leave it here, I've already said what I wanted to say so I don't care about the rest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Since you are refusing to explain yourself I am assuming this is what you are basically saying:
"Blah blah blah developers know everything, blah blah blah others don't know anything."
This has got to be one of the most retarded arguments I've heard this year. Also:
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Neriel

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You literally just made my point.
Are you really that stupid? That is how ALL the images are drawn in the game. Here the other arm you claim the AI could do, while the other arm couldn't be done by AI

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Your argument makes zero sence. Wanna dig your hole even deeper? Go ahead be my guest.
 

droglob

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Are you really that stupid? That is how ALL the images are drawn in the game. Here the other arm you claim the AI could do, while the other arm couldn't be done by AI

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Your argument makes zero sence. Wanna dig your hole even deeper? Go ahead be my guest.
Why are you using what someone else pretended i said as an argument against me? I mentioned the right arm because it's what immediately sticks out like a sore thumb at first glance. You know why you and "Proofs?? The Special Rooster" have to cling to semantics? Because that's all you have. The arm with the obscured hand is slightly different and objectively worse while the arm with the fully visible hand is exactly the same save for retouched lighting to match? No fucking shit, you don't say!

Do you even know how art works? You think those pieces were originally drawn individually instead of a full picture that then just gets torn down to be modular? The AI makes it's pass at the pictures and then the guy goes in and replaces the mangled bits. Eat some fucking walnuts or something, will you?
 

Ktwoc

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Unfortunately, that was just people's illusions. They never said they were going to do it. I would have liked it too, but seeing the fauna of people complaining about everything they say or do, accusing the artist of using AI without proof and explaining to the developer how to make a successful game under subjective opinions from their homes without understand a shit (if ppl are so creative, if ppl are so incredible create your own game let's see how it goes), so I understand that he wants to send everything to hell and make a new game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What this game has made clear is that it has been a success and it has been without listening to the imbecilities of many enlightened people who like to play being developers with other people's games. :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
So people are mad at the only dev that has finished his game and did post content??
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Neriel

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Why are you using what someone else pretended i said as an argument against me? I mentioned the right arm because it's what immediately sticks out like a sore thumb at first glance. You know why you and "Proofs?? The Special Rooster" have to cling to semantics? Because that's all you have. The arm with the obscured hand is slightly different and objectively worse while the arm with the fully visible hand is exactly the same save for retouched lighting to match? No fucking shit, you don't say!

Do you even know how art works? You think those pieces were originally drawn individually instead of a full picture that then just gets torn down to be modular? The AI makes it's pass at the pictures and then the guy goes in and replaces the mangled bits. Eat some fucking walnuts or something, will you?
And the only thing you have is "It looks AI". And when faced with facts you have to really reach far to come up with anything. Yeah shocking that the obscured arm that is in the shadow of Karryns body has different illumination. My mind is blown. But I have wasted enough time with someone that has no clue what they are talking about. Keep digging buddy.
 

sifena7986

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Oh... so he hasn't been trolling. That's kind of sad

The funniest thing that the only argument he came up with after all this verbal gymnastics can be shattered by the fact that this lighting on invisible parts has been that way years before redrawing started.

But hey, he feels like it's an AI, then why should he back it up with any proofs. It's the only truth if he says so

Here are "unnecessary" proofs from v1.0.1j:
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honestly, I find that AI/non-IA debate dry, tasteless and useless.

my position on this is art from an AI trained on art pieces from artists unaware of that appropriation and not credited just to pump out thousands of pictures to make a quick buck off of unsuspecting consumers, either by selling galleries or games incorporating said art, should be shut down and sued to oblivion.

An artist training an AI on his own art and make manual correction on the AI product with the goal of streamlining the art of his own game and enhance his workflow to give content faster to the consumers is fine by me, especially if the original art is already existing and the artist don't steal/train on others, then, AI just become another tool of graphic design, much like a photographer touching up pictures of a marriage or another important life event.

the only thing I would frown upon is said artist becoming a lazy bum and churning new original content only using AI and even then, it still fine as long it's his art seeding the AI and we have no right to critique his production methods at that point.

if it's bothering you people, just vote with your wallet by not buying the game. if you didn't bought the game and downloaded it there, you are in an even less position to complain, outside maybe a "it seems like IA art, I don't like it" and close the sterile debate right then and there.
 
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droglob

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Oh... so he hasn't been trolling. That's kind of sad

The funniest thing that the only argument he came up with after all this verbal gymnastics can be shattered by the fact that this lighting on invisible parts has been that way years before redrawing started.

But hey, he feels like it's an AI, then why should he back it up with any proofs. It's the only truth if he says so

Here are "unnecessary" proofs from v1.0.1j:
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That is literally not the exact same shading as the AI picture (not even the same art for the left one). So before you were just the classic dumb fanboy (of a porn game lmao). Now you are straight up lying, which means you have an agenda.
 

danadana

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So people are mad at the only dev that has finished his game and did post content??
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Basically, but because the developer releases content that they don't like, they start kicking and crying very loudly and start saying that they are right and that the developer is doing it wrong because he doesn't make content adapted to their tastes. The developer has to continue like this and ignore them for a while, one thing to listen to people and another thing is when the people take ownership of your project and tell you what you have to do, but if the project fails later, who is going to have problems and may go bankrupt is the developer and not the one who believes he has good ideas and wants to improve the game based on his subjectivity and personal tastes.

and then there are those that I call the AI seekers, they are ppl who have a little knowledge of drawing and go through the threads searching for what they believe is AI without any type of proof and with a success rate of 100% when the tags say AI cg or because the game is cataloged as "this art has been created with AI" if you remove those two signs the rate success drops to 0%
 

droglob

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honestly, I find that AI/non-IA debate dry and useless.

my position on this is art from an AI trained on art pieces from artists unaware of that appropriation and not credited just to pump out thousands of pictures to make a quick buck off of unsuspecting consumers, either by selling galleries or games incorporating said art, should be shut down and sued to oblivion.

An artist training an AI on his own art and make manual correction on the AI product with the goal of streamlining the art of his own game and enhance his workflow to give content faster to the consumers is fine by me, especially if the original art is already existing and the artist don't steal/train on others, then, AI just become another tool of graphic design, much like a photographer touching up pictures of a marriage or another important life event.

the only thing I would frown upon is said artist becoming a lazy bum and churning new original content only using AI and even then, it still fine as long it's his art seeding the AI and we have no right to critique his production methods at that point.

if it's bothering you people, just vote with your wallet by not buying the game.
You are putting this into theoretical scenarios when there's no need, you can just examine the real example in front of you. No one asked or wanted this, a lot of people don't like this, it's taking an absurd amount of time to produce even though AI is doing all the heavy lifting. It's just pure milking. People wanted the other half of the game to actually exist, instead they got this because it's the easiest way for the dev to pretend to be busy. If this was any of the missing content done through AI you would not be seeing even 10% of this backlash.

Fact of the matter is: anyone who is familiar with this game's development and still does not see the ever more evident pattern, is either doing it on purpose or a grade A moron.
 
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some of these posters are so weird. the only thing they do other than cranking their meat is typing up dissertations on how they're getting cheated by devs they're stealing from anyway.
Piracy is not stealing when will you people get it right? Piracy is it's own thing.
No I'm not arguing morality, I'm arguing semantics cause I'm a smartass don't @ me.
 
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