RPGM Completed Karryn's Prison [v1.3.0.61 FULL + DLCs] [Remtairy]

[Rakasob]

So they make a rock-paper-scissors combat and call it innovation in gaming? Lol. It feels like porn was an afterthought in this game, kind of like modern Oneone1 games, where they make a story and add hentai afterward. Karryn is mechanics first and porn an afterthought. Rem is obsessed with mechanics he impresses himself with, while Sachinama just makes a billion facial differences so that he will have a harder time making new CG according to standard.

They based all the porn on mechanics and now it feels more like a demo than a game. Honestly, it didn't change much from 0.7, 0.6 versions. The enemies are all bland, though the yeti is a bit of twist amongst them. The only characters that have hentai-related powers is the Nerd and the Doctor, and they're both fairly bland abilities. For all their talk about eroticism, this game is coming up lacking, the portrait changes are too minimal.

Gym is not even mechanically interesting, it's like the god-awful bar job but has some porn in it. Meltys Quest was at least reasonably erotic in content, but Karryn feels like a step backward if they leave it like this. Actually, they will have to change their perspective on how they do things, if they want to fix Karryn - which I doubt will happen.

 

[Bawunga]

But Rem said HE doesn't want to, he PERSONALLY prefers not to do this. What you fail to understand is that he says dev's personal growth > your pleasure. He sees what you want, but he wouldn't do it.

I don't know how else to put it, he doesn't want to work for you, he wants to work for his vision of what creativity is, and get better as a creator. It's arguable if it's right or not, after all people did put A LOT of money into him, so morally speaking he should consider their interests as at least something he has to please. Then again, creativity doesn't work well on demand, and if you pressure an author his work would be rather hollow, and he'll get disheartened in process, but KP doesn't exactly require too much of his genius wasted to make more content.

So is he right? Or is he wrong? No idea. After all, he does try to please people at the same time, he doesn't completely ignore them, it just didn't work trying to combine their interests and his creativity as it is right now into one thing.

While I think that's all completely valid in a vacuum, it falls apart when you remember that this is a product he's selling, as in, a consumer is supposed to pay for this.

Flexing your creative muscles is all well and good, but the entire problem here is that he didn't meet the expectations of the consumer, thus the poor feedback. Perhaps he wouldn't be having this creative crisis if he didn't tailor the product to his own whims, but those of the people he's supposed to be selling to.

A DLC job addon is also probably the wrong place to do this kind of mold-breaking, save it for the next product where it might gel more with the content there rather than awkwardly jamming it here.

 

[Bimbo Barbie]

rems latest post, for those people wanting gym content, he address it.

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Bruh. The fact he even released a DLC like Stray pubes (which I remember some guy on this thread thought up like a year ago and worked up some art for as I gave feedback on said art for 'a mod') is already quite spectacular imo. Not coming through on promises doesn't bother anyone when it comes to politicians. So people should look in the mirror if they want to send death threats. Go murder some politician or something, at least they deserve it.

Also. He seriously took his time to write lol. Legend. People who use more than 5 sentences to communicate deserve respect. Not trying to simp. But if this is it for him, that's fine with me. Historty has been made, and he sure as hell wasn't a yanderedev.

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Edit: Some fat neet wrote he thought this game wasn't innovative, and that it wasn't erotic or something. He should just go and watch porn already or something if all he cares for is moving pictures. Your mom reads shitty cheap romantic dimestore novels and I don't hear her complain, so what's up your butt? Sad the DLC is on hold or something? What are you doing on this thread cursing in a church for? Go play some 'pick boner option' dialogue VN's if a real attempt to making a game bothers you enough to take a dump on someones hard work. Also, Dragonball Legends is also a 'rock-scissor-paper' combat game. Top 10 mobile game on the planet. Breaks with conventions amongst competitors for 'not' being an excuse to sell jpegs through a slotmachine with extra step. Same thing goes for KP. Finally an actual game that finishes what it set out to do with clear succes. I'd love to hear you take a dump on DB Legends just to hear you tear down my comparison and explain how all this 'rock-paper-scissors' combat is not "innovative" again. Your brain is big and cultured I'd love to learn more senpai.

 

[NitrogeniuM]

Sir do u know What's happening file game.exe is lost?

Truthfully have no idea, never encountered it so I don't know the fix to that but i guess redownloading the game could help, maybe your download was corrupted so give it a try

 

[Bimbo Barbie]

But Rem said HE doesn't want to, he PERSONALLY prefers not to do this. What you fail to understand is that he says dev's personal growth > your pleasure. He sees what you want, but he wouldn't do it.

I don't know how else to put it, he doesn't want to work for you, he wants to work for his vision of what creativity is, and get better as a creator. It's arguable if it's right or not, after all people did put A LOT of money into him, so morally speaking he should consider their interests as at least something he has to please. Then again, creativity doesn't work well on demand, and if you pressure an author his work would be rather hollow, and he'll get disheartened in process, but KP doesn't exactly require too much of his genius wasted to make more content.

So is he right? Or is he wrong? No idea. After all, he does try to please people at the same time, he doesn't completely ignore them, it just didn't work trying to combine their interests and his creativity as it is right now into one thing.

At least this guy seems to get what being an artist is about. Juggling expectations isn't a definition of art, but a burden of doing business. And pleasing everyone on the internet is an impossible task so I suggest clueless losers to listen to reason for once in their life and treat other people like actual human beings instead of manufacturing devices.

 

[DemonLord98]

But Rem said HE doesn't want to, he PERSONALLY prefers not to do this. What you fail to understand is that he says dev's personal growth > your pleasure. He sees what you want, but he wouldn't do it.

I don't know how else to put it, he doesn't want to work for you, he wants to work for his vision of what creativity is, and get better as a creator. It's arguable if it's right or not, after all people did put A LOT of money into him, so morally speaking he should consider their interests as at least something he has to please. Then again, creativity doesn't work well on demand, and if you pressure an author his work would be rather hollow, and he'll get disheartened in process, but KP doesn't exactly require too much of his genius wasted to make more content.

So is he right? Or is he wrong? No idea. After all, he does try to please people at the same time, he doesn't completely ignore them, it just didn't work trying to combine their interests and his creativity as it is right now into one thing.

True. That's why he will not get any more of my money. For KP or any new game.

 

[DemonLord98]

At least this guy seems to get what being an artist is about. Juggling expectations isn't a definition of art, but a burden of doing business. And pleasing everyone on the internet is an impossible task so I suggest clueless losers to listen to reason for once in their life and treat other people like actual human beings instead of manufacturing devices.

Don't charge money like a product then! Just ask people to donate money for free to help him with his creative art.

 

[Suncatcher42]

i allow everything but vagina sex, still she gets too horny and i end up losing virginity in three rounds, is there a way to maker her not aroused at the start of the battle even by using cheats?

That's your problem. When she gets accustomed to oral/anal/titfucking/whatever, she gets passive traits that make her desire start higher and increase more rapidly, which makes it much harder to avoid going further.
I got a pure run, but I had to make sure to keep all her desires so low that she didn't even allow groping until the final battle. Immediately spend willpower to suppress anything that gets close to 50, then get good at pure combat and you should be fine.
Or just play a slut.

 

[doarcutine]

Don't charge money like a product then! Just ask people to donate money for free to help him with his creative art.

If you are referring to his subscribestar that is basically what he is doing.

 

[DemonLord98]

If you are referring to his subscribestar that is basically what he is doing.

No, Steam and other sites.

 

[doarcutine]

No, Steam and other sites.

you paid for the base game, not the gym dlc lol

 

[Kaiki-tan]

Don't charge money like a product then! Just ask people to donate money for free to help him with his creative art.

That's such a weird statement to make... You do realize that the majority of art in any form be it games, novels, shows or movies are usually not manufactured speically for X person's or people' wants in mind, more so for individualistic works that aren't from a massive team of creators. Obviously counter to what corporate giants or many artists doing it strictly for profit would make you believe.. It is not just algorithems and fan polls. More often than not what you want is different to what people want, the best to do is reach a middle ground (espiecally for games when factual things are involved). Although art is a combination of inspirations in the creator's conception of the thing they want to create and imagine it to be. You choose to play KP because what you like just happens to be in KP, he didn't create it specifically for YOU... Sure, it is a product, but so is literally nearly everything in this world. If you don't want to pay, then don't, antagonizing and complaining won't help. It's like telling a chef you didn't like the use of X ingredient in a dish after eating, sure he'll take your feedback into account, but if it goes against the principle and isn't a factual criticism, it is pointless.

 

[Bleh21]

That's such a weird statement to make... You do realize that the majority of art in any form be it games, novels, shows or movies are usually not manufactured speically for X person's or people' wants in mind, more so for individualistic works that aren't from a massive team of creators. Obviously counter to what corporate giants or many artists doing it strictly for profit would make you believe.. It is not just algorithems and fan polls. More often than not what you want is different to what people want, the best to do is reach a middle ground (espiecally for games when factual things are involved). Although art is a combination of inspirations in the creator's conception of the thing they want to create and imagine it to be. You choose to play KP because what you like just happens to be in KP, he didn't create it specifically for YOU... Sure, it is a product, but so is literally nearly everything in this world. If you don't want to pay, then don't, antagonizing and complaining won't help. It's like telling a chef you didn't like the use of X ingredient in a dish after eating, sure he'll take your feedback into account, but if it goes against the principle and isn't a factual criticism, it is pointless.

I'd agree with you if it was just him. But it's clearly a lot more if he is getting harassed to the point the Dev has to take a break. Karryn was created to cater to the wants of the players of Karryn. The dev created it to sell to any potential players, not because he just wanted to make it randomly. If those players are demanding change then either the product changes course to meet their demands or something like this happens. What the dev wants literally does not matter, it doesn't matter for any game in existence. The player's /payers wants are the ONLY thing that matters. It might sound harsh but this is not a unique situation. We can see it happen over and over with Battlefield, Ghostbusters, Velma, Halo etc.

 

[Kaiki-tan]

I'd agree with you if it was just him. But it's clearly a lot more if he is getting harassed to the point the Dev has to take a break. Karryn was created to cater to the wants of the players of Karryn. The dev created it to sell to any potential players, not because he just wanted to make it randomly. If those players are demanding change then either the product changes course to meet their demands or something like this happens. What the dev wants literally does not matter, it doesn't matter for any game in existence. The player's /payers wants are the ONLY thing that matters. It might sound harsh but this is not a unique situation. We can see it happen over and over with Battlefield, Ghostbusters, Velma, Halo etc.

That's just straight up incorrect and against the point though..
Rem wasn't necessarily harassed into break, but the DLC is something on his mind as it was promised, already finished technically and a step for the game. Don't forget that idiots that do dumb shit like harassing are also the extreme loud minority, literally ALWAYS...
Also art can become a product just like everything else to sell, like a painting, whether it was intended be sold to begin with doesn't matter as the whole point is whether direct or indirect player involvement was a thing, which wasn't. Sure, something can be created to appease people and for what considered to pull in, but not EVERY aspect of it.
Also your last statement is just bullshit on the highest extent. You proceeded to list products that I said specifically were the expectations like stuff from corporate giants i.e massive teams and IPs (more so towards franchises too) because their purpose is to appease expectations and make money. Which is still the popular but nonetheless the minority in an endless market with millions of products. You're aware of the player, but you also view yourself as the player. Just like as a concept artist and animator (myself) think about the consumer's view point while considering what I want to convoy... Saying that what the person who created X says doesn't matter for X is very naive anon, I think you still have some growing/exploring to do.

 

[Ramirad]

The player's /payers wants are the ONLY thing that matters. It might sound harsh but this is not a unique situation. We can see it happen over and over with Battlefield, Ghostbusters, Velma, Halo etc.

That is adolescent nonsense (as if there is one set of 'wants' of players).
Excepting a corporate gaming company seeking to maximise sales, what the developer would like to do - and has a vision for - is fundamental (as one can tell by abandoned games).

 

[ThatFurryYouKnow]

Things are heating up in the Karryn's Prison thread.

 

[Fapokso]

Stop writing paragraphs hurts to read

 

[Bleh21]

That's just straight up incorrect and against the point though..
Rem wasn't necessarily harassed into break, but the DLC is something on his mind as it was promised, already finished technically and a step for the game. Don't forget that idiots that do dumb shit like harassing are also the extreme loud minority, literally ALWAYS...
Also art can become a product just like everything else to sell, like a painting, whether it was intended be sold to begin with doesn't matter as the whole point is whether direct or indirect player involvement was a thing, which wasn't. Sure, something can be created to appease people and for what considered to pull in, but not EVERY aspect of it.
Also your last statement is just bullshit on the highest extent. You proceeded to list products that I said specifically were the expectations like stuff from corporate giants i.e massive teams and IPs (more so towards franchises too) because their purpose is to appease expectations and make money. Which is still the popular but nonetheless the minority in an endless market with millions of products. You're aware of the player, but you also view yourself as the player. Just like as a concept artist and animator (myself) think about the consumer's view point while considering what I want to convoy... Saying that what the person who created X says doesn't matter for X is very naive anon, I think you still have some growing/exploring to do.

i've read his post, its clear that a large amount of negative feedback is being provided because the DLC wasn't what people wanted and the game felt unfinished. You and I don't know the data regarding feedback, the dev does. And he is clearly bothered by the large negative criticism he is receiving.

I don't know what the second point is, the game was clearly made for profit. He has made a successful game before and he has all the proper channels for player funding. it is in no way comparable to an artist drawing fan art or something. Sure not every aspect has to be made to appease the playerbase (although it 100% should be) but atleast the vast majority of any product should be made to satisfy the people funding it.

No lol, all of those products were created with the creator's vision of what the consumer base wanted. And it turned out the creators vision and the customers wants were completely unaligned. Which resulted in massive backlash. Same thing is happening here. A great case study for this actually would be the sonic movie. The sonic design was terrible and everyone was raging against it, Jim Carrey came out for the artists vision (much like you) and was against changing anything. But changing the design was probably the best decision they ever made.

If that is the case, then it was probably because your vision and your consumers wants were always aligned. But if the two sides were to ever have a complete disagreement, I'd say the consumer's wants take 100% priority (given you are being paid).

 

[Bleh21]

Stop writing paragraphs hurts to read

woops

 

[JellyGlass]

I feel like he should just release the gym dlc as is and be done with the game for awhile or for good. Modders will keep working on it at this phase anyways.
The guy has been locked up in NYC since Covid I would be going insane too if I never touched grass. The eye surgery is crazy that he even considered it giving all he had to do is take breaks from the computer. He clearly isn't mentally alright right now but still really want to deliver a good product. I can respect that.
He really should just take a break from being on a computer all day go visit a park or something and talk to people in real life. I would bet he would be a lot better afterwords.