EmilIrving

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I would NEVER have paid to go see Sonic if they kept that fucking awful original design!
I would never have gone seen it either if that design stayed. But let's be real. That change only happened due to the fanbase, which is usually divided on almost everything but the original Sonic games, Sonic 06, Sonic Generation, Sonic Frontier, and movie Sonic design, has united for the outcry.
 

Bawunga

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I don't think the issue is that he doesn't want to make content for the GYM DLC. It's the fact that his brain is frozen on how to mechanically do it in a way that he and rem accepts. He's essentially writer blocked being the only writer in a company.
There's probably an element of that, but IMO there's also some stubborness going on (in that they had a vision of what they wanted to do, and being told that that doesn't match up with what other people wanted is difficult to accept) and also even though Rem didn't mention it, the fact that putting his hands up and saying they made a mistake, going back and just caving to what people want would also be a signifcant (and expensive) timesink, which for a DLC is too much to justify.
 

EmilIrving

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There's probably an element of that, but IMO there's also some stubborness going on (in that they had a vision of what they wanted to do, and being told that that doesn't match up with what other people wanted is difficult to accept) and also even though Rem didn't mention it, the fact that putting his hands up and saying they made a mistake, going back and just caving to what people want would also be a signifcant (and expensive) timesink, which for a DLC is too much to justify.
Unfortunately true. Rem practically shot himself in the foot now. He should have just released the DLC anyways, as after all this time, he is in a perma-lose-lose situation. If he and Sachi rework the idea, the price might go up and people already shitting on the DLC will have the justification to say Rem is price-gouging (which will be more true than not, but not the for the reason they will use). But if he makes no attempt to make changes, then what was the point of waiting all this time for?
 
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vocalnight

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So, did they really release a DLC with different hair colors but didn't update the cut-in images hair color or is just me that is still seeing the purple hair in all of them?
 

EmilIrving

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So, did they really release a DLC with different hair colors but didn't update the cut-in images hair color or is just me that is still seeing the purple hair in all of them?
Not just you, I am tempted to ask about that in the discord if it hasn't been mentioned yet.
 

Neriel

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Some takes here are something. Did anybody even bother to look at the feedback the Gym Beta got? The vast majority didn't demand a rework or something. They just wanted some sort of gameplay added that is more in line with what KP is about. And there were multiple ideas people were throwing around, that would not need any more CGs or voicework or anything.

Also just as a Side Note, the idea that they wanted the Gym to be something unique and different, well they failed in achieving that. It is basically Glory Hole 2.0, with that the Desire System is pointless, as a pure Karryn there is no reason to do the Side Job and as a Slut Karryn you just pick what you want to see, for no real reason other to look at pretty pictures. Also there is no direction on what you should do. You just do stuff. That is why the Side Job gets stale extremly fast.
 

silentwookie

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He should fix the bugs, release it, and do something else. People will decide with their wallets if it´s good or not (probably not).
But move on, dude
 
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EmilIrving

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Some takes here are something. Did anybody even bother to look at the feedback the Gym Beta got? The vast majority didn't demand a rework or something. They just wanted some sort of gameplay added that is more in line with what KP is about. And there were multiple ideas people were throwing around, that would not need any more CGs or voicework or anything.

Also just as a Side Note, the idea that they wanted the Gym to be something unique and different, well they failed in achieving that. It is basically Glory Hole 2.0, with that the Desire System is pointless, as a pure Karryn there is no reason to do the Side Job and as a Slut Karryn you just pick what you want to see, for no real reason other to look at pretty pictures. Also there is no direction on what you should do. You just do stuff. That is why the Side Job gets stale extremly fast.
Please, people there were suggesting either have the prisoners/guards working out there be sabotaged by being debuffed if Karryn had sex with them at the gym or have Karryn gain stats to course correct the individual player's build. The former truly doesn't help unless a slutty Karryn cannot get to them all without jumping from one dick to another unless she does a 'demonstration', but if the stripper job is anything to go by, anyone not horny would probably just leave. The latter will require a rework.
 

Shizusan

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A slut build save.
Maybe this one I hacked and made with modification, I never played the game really, may crash to get back to normal game I think talk to some npc's and start a scene which can warp you to the right area to be able to get back home. Should be transported to gallery test room with that save.

If you get into a battle in test room the sexual skills are hacked too, don't know if its everything in the game too many to test and some crash the game if you say use trainer skills made for gym but you're not in the gym or don't have the dlc it will crash by looking for files that aren't there or don't match up. Same with using goblin skills against a human I think. I can't remember but you probably don't need global if you make a save file24 and just overwrite with mine.
 
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Neriel

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Please, people there were suggesting either have the prisoners/guards working out there be sabotaged by being debuffed if Karryn had sex with them at the gym or have Karryn gain stats to course correct the individual player's build. The former truly doesn't help unless a slutty Karryn cannot get to them all without jumping from one dick to another unless she does a 'demonstration', but if the stripper job is anything to go by, anyone not horny would probably just leave. The latter will require a rework.
Ofc there were some suggetions like this. But let's have a look at posts, that actually recieved Upvotes for the most part:

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I could go for more but you get the point
 
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jacq2e

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Someone actually knows what staff efficency does? It don't seems to affect any money values. Even worse, when I try to farm it and repair the staff lounge, the money I get per days drop. How does it work exactly?
 

manscout

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Someone actually knows what staff efficency does? It don't seems to affect any money values. Even worse, when I try to farm it and repair the staff lounge, the money I get per days drop. How does it work exactly?
I do not remember the exact numbers and stuff, but I believe "staff efficiency" improves the effects of the "hire lawyer" and "hire accountant" edicts in level 2.

Unfortunately all those edicts come with a hefty flat expense increase (at least for the early game) in exchange for percentage increases to your income. So basically until you have an operation setup where you are gaining a lot of money, they are not worth having.
 

negroidprime

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Holy shit, this thread has become a total shitshow in few days, even more so than usual...
I mean i'm all about petty conflicts and stoking the coals but shit like this is why Jesus changed his middlename to "Fucking" and died in vain on the cross...
 

EmilIrving

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Jun 29, 2017
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"actually recieved Upvotes-"
Please don't use that as a reason.

The critiques those posters shared are right, you are right, but THAT shouldn't be the reason to point them out. As a pure Karryn, there is practically only moving from one prisoner/guard working out to another, observing their forms, and advising them. So yeah, it gets "old". But... This job is there so people that are doing a pure run won't feel jeopardized by this one and ignore it like the other side jobs due to the corruption themes.
 
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