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If not for that and the two endings, there is basically nothing in the adventure that paints a picture of a deep romance. Even more so when you take into account none of Karryn's solo scenes even mentioning the Emperor. She only mentions him when failing her mission becomes likely and she wants to motivate herself to keep going. It comes off as respect rather than love.
What do you mean? It happens all the time in the early parts of the game. Secretary and Lady Stance are the two energy moves you'll have to use when Karryn has no other actions she can take, and she doesn't learn Pleasure Stance until she's a slut. She'll always have voice lines speaking about comparing the inmates to the emperor.
The game could have really benefited from having a comparable Empress Ending to the Happy End where you actually got to see their romance in full swing...or at least some kind of significant reward for the effort from a gameplay perspective :cry:
I 100% disagree.

If the dev's a cuck and likes cuck elements, asking them to include stuff they don't enjoy isn't good imo. I think creatives should be free to make the stuff they want to make instead of the stuff people want to see.
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Bitch you literally said nothing. Don't post next time.
 

lithis

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I can't be the only one that thinks the gameplay in this is an absolute stinker, right? For a game with so much combat it sure has a really bad and repetitive combat system. Not to mention there's very little strategy other than "pick dexterity and spam it" even though there's a rock-paper-scissors thing going on. The porn in this must be unequivocally god-tier to justify this score lol.

Or maybe I just really fucking hate jrpgs and can't stand them, I dunno.
 

eugene67

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I can't be the only one that thinks the gameplay in this is an absolute stinker, right? For a game with so much combat it sure has a really bad and repetitive combat system. Not to mention there's very little strategy other than "pick dexterity and spam it" even though there's a rock-paper-scissors thing going on. The porn in this must be unequivocally god-tier to justify this score lol.

Or maybe I just really fucking hate jrpgs and can't stand them, I dunno.
sounds like you need to play more, the game is quite a bit deeper than the level at which you're engaging with it
 
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Karryn needs to be wet, naked or at least partially naked, her cock & other related desire must be equal to or greater than 100, enemy needs to be not angry and be able to initiate the kind of sex you want to see happen. If that sex happens enough times eventually a passive related to it will be unlocked allowing Karryn to perform the sex skill without waiting for enemies to use it on her(sex requirements are mostly unchanged). These skills are your "sex on command" skills. If you learn how to play the game you won't need cheats.
That´s the thing, I used the cheats to put her in the state I thought it´ll work, wet, horny, cock and vaginal desire above 100 the Orc boss tonkin only enemy on the field while being horny too, make her loose her stamina so she´ll be on the ground naked, everything I thought made sense and, even after many turns, nothing.
Weird thing, I remember a while ago (years) when I played, she´ll get raped easily.
 

Purple_Heart

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That´s the thing, I used the cheats to put her in the state I thought it´ll work, wet, horny, cock and vaginal desire above 100 the Orc boss tonkin only enemy on the field while being horny too, make her loose her stamina so she´ll be on the ground naked, everything I thought made sense and, even after many turns, nothing.
Weird thing, I remember a while ago (years) when I played, she´ll get raped easily.
Like I said, the enemy needs to be able to initiate it. Most enemies can join any pose but not all of them can start every pose. It is possible that boss don't have the ability to start vaginal sex pose. It is also possible it can start it but has a low chance to do so. Try using the searchbar in this thread, maybe you can find someone who managed to get the boss start a vaginal sex pose.
 
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ThatHero

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What do you mean? It happens all the time in the early parts of the game. Secretary and Lady Stance are the two energy moves you'll have to use when Karryn has no other actions she can take, and she doesn't learn Pleasure Stance until she's a slut. She'll always have voice lines speaking about comparing the inmates to the emperor.
Those are the exact things I'm referencing. When you pair them up with the other things she says pre-slut, I don't (personally) take it as if she's comparing them romantically. More along the lines of a, "The guy I used to work under was a great man...these guys I have to be around 24/7 now are freakin' losers," type of mindset. Add into that how the mechanics work narratively (Karryn has to "want" something to happen for her to allow it), and that's just the impression I get.

I 100% disagree.

If the dev's a cuck and likes cuck elements, asking them to include stuff they don't enjoy isn't good imo. I think creatives should be free to make the stuff they want to make instead of the stuff people want to see.
I'm not saying devs can't do what they want, I'm just saying it sucks as the audience to not get something worthwhile for the effort. It doesn't have to be a fleshed out ending, but you just get a less meaningfully tangible reward for going for the Empress Ending. You get to experiment and see the content at your leisure in the Happy End + get to see a unique scene, but the Empress one just boots you to New Game+. No scene, no gameplay changes/additions, heck you even lose access to the Sound Test since it's only available in the Happy End.

As a dev, I'd want the more fulfilling experience to be the one that requires more time/effort. Most games are built with that in mind, having alternate game modes unlocked, an extended last act, or a post-game of some kind.
 

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What do you mean? It happens all the time in the early parts of the game. Secretary and Lady Stance are the two energy moves you'll have to use when Karryn has no other actions she can take, and she doesn't learn Pleasure Stance until she's a slut. She'll always have voice lines speaking about comparing the inmates to the emperor.

I 100% disagree.

If the dev's a cuck and likes cuck elements, asking them to include stuff they don't enjoy isn't good imo. I think creatives should be free to make the stuff they want to make instead of the stuff people want to see.

Bitch you literally said nothing. Don't post next time.
Yes. And?
 

hawkhunter

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Wow people gave this game 1 or 2 stars, saying its just bad overall.
Someone wrote the game mechanics are from the 80s. Which obviously is a design choice and this choice is extremely refined I think.
Others said that the game is way too hard even on easy mode. I guess these people play a lot of MMORPGs and are used to be baby sitted? Because this game is partially a learning experience on how to handle challenges and strike certain balance choices.

This is all my personal opinion of course but I was a little surprised that someone could rate this a 1 star game with such high qualities in gameplay smoothness, fighting depth and art quality as a few examples.
 

Purple_Heart

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Wow people gave this game 1 or 2 stars, saying its just bad overall.
Someone wrote the game mechanics are from the 80s. Which obviously is a design choice and this choice is extremely refined I think.
Others said that the game is way too hard even on easy mode. I guess these people play a lot of MMORPGs and are used to be baby sitted? Because this game is partially a learning experience on how to handle challenges and strike certain balance choices.

This is all my personal opinion of course but I was a little surprised that someone could rate this a 1 star game with such high qualities in gameplay smoothness, fighting depth and art quality as a few examples.
Giving it 1 or 2 stars may seem too harsh but in the end that's just their own opinion and there is no such thing as the perfect review.

Also, there are external factors such as the community around the game, they affect those reviews too. If a lot of reviewers are rating the game perfect one would play the game expecting perfection which can easily end up with a huge disappointment.

In my opinion game is good enough for 4 stars but one of those stars is entirely thanks to english voiceover. I'd certainly rate it 3 stars if it didn't have any. Game has a unique charm that I like but at the same time I can see its flaws and rooms for improvements and I don't think they should be ignored.

All things considered I think it is a good porn game but an average game compared to regular games. I'd play this when I am horny and in the mood for masturbating but I wouldn't enjoy it without the sex content(I know this because I didn't enjoy my "pure" run, at all).
 

hawkhunter

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Giving it 1 or 2 stars may seem too harsh but in the end that's just their own opinion and there is no such thing as the perfect review.

Also, there are external factors such as the community around the game, they affect those reviews too. If a lot of reviewers are rating the game perfect one would play the game expecting perfection which can easily end up with a huge disappointment.

In my opinion game is good enough for 4 stars but one of those stars is entirely thanks to english voiceover. I'd certainly rate it 3 stars if it didn't have any. Game has a unique charm that I like but at the same time I can see its flaws and rooms for improvements and I don't think they should be ignored.

All things considered I think it is a good porn game but an average game compared to regular games. I'd play this when I am horny and in the mood for masturbating but I wouldn't enjoy it without the sex content(I know this because I didn't enjoy my "pure" run, at all).
I felt like that too on some comments. That they went in with huge expectations.

Yeah we all tried the pure virgin run and savescums :p (Well I did. Would be too infuriating without)
 
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I'm not saying devs can't do what they want, I'm just saying it sucks as the audience to not get something worthwhile for the effort.
Feels like that ending is the dev laughing at you for doing that, and I think that's fully justified.

Buying a porn game and avoiding all the porn. You genuinely deserve to be made the butt of a joke. Like the present for getting all Korok seeds being shit.

As a dev, I'd want the more fulfilling experience to be the one that requires more time/effort. Most games are built with that in mind, having alternate game modes unlocked, an extended last act, or a post-game of some kind.
I disagree with this mindset.

The most fulfilling experience in undertale is not the genocide end.

The game is an adult game, where the core erotic focus is a main heroine getting raped and turning into a slut. If you avoid the core conceit of the game, it makes absolute perfect sense to me, that the dev gives you shit.
 
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