VN Ren'Py King of Stormhill [v0.4b] [AKT_669 AKKIRA]

[_Akkira_]

Yeah, different people have different lines where they declare it lesbian or not. For example, you might have a girl bang the MC, and as she's leaving the room another girl is walking in and she slaps her butt. For some that's lesbian, for me, I just see it as two girls being playful and not inherently sexual at all. Women are just natural more touchy-feely than men too so two girls could sleep in the same bed and cuddle and it isn't sexual at all, but some guys see it as a problem.

As far as the tag goes I think it depends on the context and if the girls are actually being sexual with each other. Like is one chick just grabbing other girl's boobs, or is she like licking and sucking on her nipples. One wouldn't be lesbian, girls can grab each other's boobs and it not be sexual. The other is 100% lesbian, licking and sucking nipples is a sex acts.

Long winded way of saying that lesbian stuff is not as clear cut as some other stuff, but I think that girls can be touchy-feely with out it being sexual. But if the intent is for them to be sexual gratifying each other, then it's lesbian.

Yeah, it’s a bit tricky. That’s actually the main reason why I thought it would be better to include the lesbian tag

 

[_Akkira_]

Just come across this when i tried ringing kate after i read her text saying her pic was on the news and she diidnt know what to do. View attachment 4788565

This error only happens if you call Kate, right? If that's the case, just avoid calling her for now. Some parts of the code are leftovers from when the game was a sandbox, so a few bugs might still appear. I'll fix this soon. Thanks for letting me know!

 

[vs2011xyz]

Sexy Bitches, Hell yeah.

 

[odbpm]

Voyeur scenes will exist but are fully optional and can be disabled.

Thank you for your comment! Just to clarify: the scene shows the protagonist's father having sex with his own girlfriend, not the MC's girlfriend.
There is no NTR involving the protagonist, so you don't need to worry about that.
I understand it's not everyone's favorite style, but these scenes are few and completely optional to watch.
The main focus of the game will be on the harem content, as I mentioned earlier, and that's where I'm putting my efforts now.

so i went thinking that i could disable it, but no option to do so. you can chose to watch it or not, but you still hear it when you walk by, you hear her moaning and saying "yes baby... fuck me" and first after then you get the option to watch or ignore.
after that i saw that rachel has affection/submission stats so i asume shes a LI and gonna be a part of mc's harem in the future. hearing or seeing a future LI with any other male then the mc is a hard skip for me atleast.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

so i went thinking that i could disable it, but no option to do so. you can chose to watch it or not, but you still hear it when you walk by, you hear her moaning and saying "yes baby... fuck me" and first after then you get the option to watch or ignore.
after that i saw that rachel has affection/submission stats so i asume shes a LI and gonna be a part of mc's harem in the future. hearing or seeing a future LI with any other male then the mc is a hard skip for me atleast.

Oh man, I hope not. I just downloaded it to play later, even though I almost never play the first release of a game because I want to be sure no bs happens. I downloaded it because the dev is communicating and seemed to be being open about the content, but if this is the case then I guess I miss understood the situation.

Future love interests having sex scenes with other guys is NTR to me (I don't care about the context, I hate it and it has the same effect, and especially if it happens no matter what you do), I know it probably won't get the tag. Even though it ought to since the term using on the site is romantic interest (meaning the Mc is just interested in her, not necessarily with her yet) and in Japan it would get the tag, but to me it is just as bad, and in some ways often worse because it feels like someone trying to pull one over on me. If she is a love interests then her having a sex scene with another guy is just going to cause problems in the long run.

If she is a love interest then the scene needs to be removed because it will only attract people who like NTR and like seeing love interests bang other guys and will drive away many harem fans.

There is never a reason to show a love interest fucking another guy unless you want to attracted NTR fans.

 

[odbpm]

Oh man, I hope not. I just downloaded it to play later, even though I almost never play the first release of a game because I want to be sure no bs happens. I downloaded it because the dev is communicating and seemed to be being open about the content, but if this is the case then I guess I miss understood the situation.

Future love interests having sex scenes with other guys is NTR to me, I know it probably won't get the tag. Even though it ought to since the term using on the site is romantic interest (meaning the Mc is just interested in her, not necessarily with her yet) and in Japan it would get the tag, but to me it is just as bad, and in some ways often worse because it feels like someone trying to pull one over on me. If she is a love interests then her having a sex scene with another guy is just going to cause problems in the long run.

If she is a love interest then the scene needs to be removed because it will only attract people who like NTR and like seeing love interests bang other guys and will drive away many harem fans.

There is never a reason to show a love interest fucking another guy unless you want to attracted NTR fans.

yeah im right there with you, its just classic western culture changing the true meaning of shit to suit there own agenda.
and really is disingenuous hiding stuff like that behind voyeurism.

 

[GodlessPhantom]

yeah im right there with you, its just classic western culture changing the true meaning of shit to suit there own agenda.
and really is disingenuous hiding stuff like that behind voyeurism.

Was thinking about downloading this but now i will wait and see what happens. Thanks for the info

 

[odbpm]

so i went thinking that i could disable it, but no option to do so. you can chose to watch it or not, but you still hear it when you walk by, you hear her moaning and saying "yes baby... fuck me" and first after then you get the option to watch or ignore.
after that i saw that rachel has affection/submission stats so i asume shes a LI and gonna be a part of mc's harem in the future. hearing or seeing a future LI with any other male then the mc is a hard skip for me atleast.

also the dev should add the Cuckold tag instead of hiding it behind voyeurism, since the mc seems to enjoy watching other ppl fuck.
voyeurism to me is public sex/mc perving on someone changing or bathing/seeing a quick scene with random no name npc's fucking.
but perving on Future Li's fucking someone else is more like cuckoldry then voyeurism.

 

[Ark9]

first release? pretty sure this was uploaded some time ago with a different name(?).

 

[S-G-H]

the game is just so good everything is perfect so far i just hope that Rachel stay out of LI if the father will continue to be alive and of course i hope the choice

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won't get me a game over in future update because it's a very good choice.

 

[JenMistress]

So, I saw somewhere this was the first release? Very impressive for a first release, I must say. Very curious as to where this going, specially with knowing how Game Overs may not be as sudden, so think I made the right choice, but we shall see I guess. Did a save there just in case. But all and all, really enjoyed this game, and totally looking forward for future releases. Thank you so very much for this!!!

 

[_Akkira_]

So, I saw somewhere this was the first release? Very impressive for a first release, I must say. Very curious as to where this going, specially with knowing how Game Overs may not be as sudden, so think I made the right choice, but we shall see I guess. Did a save there just in case. But all and all, really enjoyed this game, and totally looking forward for future releases. Thank you so very much for this!!!

Actually, the original version was released about 4 months ago. This new one is a reboot — but honestly, don’t even bother looking for the old version… it was trash. I'm really glad you liked it, and I truly appreciate the feedback!

first release? pretty sure this was uploaded some time ago with a different name(?).

Yeah, it was released a few months ago. The main difference in the new version is the renderings

so i went thinking that i could disable it, but no option to do so. you can chose to watch it or not, but you still hear it when you walk by, you hear her moaning and saying "yes baby... fuck me" and first after then you get the option to watch or ignore.
after that i saw that rachel has affection/submission stats so i asume shes a LI and gonna be a part of mc's harem in the future. hearing or seeing a future LI with any other male then the mc is a hard skip for me atleast.

Oh shit... Looks like that went a bit off track.
At the part where you get the option to open the door or ignore it, it was supposed to say 'Ignore (Disable Voyeurism)'. I believe that got removed by the AI tools I used for translation, and I didn't catch it in time.
But if you chose the 'Ignore' option, voyeur content was already disabled.
In the next update, I'll improve this and add an option in the game's menu so you can enable or disable it whenever you want.

About the points you mentioned:
They're not necessarily linked directly to sex, but more about how characters will react or whether certain scenes can happen. For example, if Rachel has high affection for you, she might help you do something behind your father's back.

To be honest, that made more sense back when the game was still sandbox-style (as you can probably tell by the 'progress' point system still in there).
I'll fix all of this in the next update.

Please keep in mind that this is still a beta version, so these things can happen.

 

[Wicks99]

Alright, let’s break this down...

There are two main points to consider here:

First — this is a porn game, and let’s be honest, a lot of people are here just for the fap, right?
Personally, when I play something like this, I’m not really into voyeurism or NTR being part of the main story. But if it’s in a gallery, as an optional scene, then I’ll watch it — because at that point, it’s just for the "fap"

Second — I need to follow a coherent storyline. The MC’s father is a powerful guy, a real tough one. He’s definitely not someone who’d get cucked. If something like that ever happened, he would kill both the MC and Rachel without hesitation.
So rest assured: there will be no NTR in this game.

Now, think about it — the only logical way to have a sex scene with Rachel would be if the MC’s father dies, right?
But if I go down that route, it could take 1 or 2 years in development for that to actually happen…
And let’s be honest, Rachel is an extremely attractive character. It would feel like a waste not to have any sexual content with her.

The only viable option, then, is voyeurism. Since there won’t be NTR, and she won’t be a love interest for the MC while the father is still alive.

But of course — if you have a better idea on how to create a scene with her, without killing off the MC’s dad and still staying away from NTR — I’m totally open to hearing it.

There is a standard way out of this, which is the usual forbidden love and eventual confrontation. Hard to carry out without getting cringey though...

Alternate way is to plot the story in a way that MC's father voluntarily wants to get rid of her because of political / business interest. I remembered some IRL novels using this plot device before.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Alright, let’s break this down...

There are two main points to consider here:

First — this is a porn game, and let’s be honest, a lot of people are here just for the fap, right?
Personally, when I play something like this, I’m not really into voyeurism or NTR being part of the main story. But if it’s in a gallery, as an optional scene, then I’ll watch it — because at that point, it’s just for the "fap"

Second — I need to follow a coherent storyline. The MC’s father is a powerful guy, a real tough one. He’s definitely not someone who’d get cucked. If something like that ever happened, he would kill both the MC and Rachel without hesitation.
So rest assured: there will be no NTR in this game.

Now, think about it — the only logical way to have a sex scene with Rachel would be if the MC’s father dies, right?
But if I go down that route, it could take 1 or 2 years in development for that to actually happen…
And let’s be honest, Rachel is an extremely attractive character. It would feel like a waste not to have any sexual content with her.

The only viable option, then, is voyeurism. Since there won’t be NTR, and she won’t be a love interest for the MC while the father is still alive.

But of course — if you have a better idea on how to create a scene with her, without killing off the MC’s dad and still staying away from NTR — I’m totally open to hearing it.

I appreciate the answers. Since I haven't played yet I don't really have a point of reference for the specific characters looks or their personalities. As long as she's never a love interest then I can just pass on the voyeurism and it won't be a big deal.

As far as a way to have sex scenes with her (or at least her attractive model) in another way, and this is just off the top of my head, maybe give her a twin sister that becomes a love interest of the Mc? Half joking, but could be a fun idea. As I said I get it, you didn't spent time finding and/or making a model you find attractive for no reason and as long as voyeurism isn't forced and can be totally ignored then I'm can live with it.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

There is a standard way out of this, which is the usual forbidden love and eventual confrontation. Hard to carry out without getting cringey though...

Alternate way is to plot the story in a way that MC's father voluntarily wants to get rid of her because of political / business interest. I remembered some IRL novels using this plot device before.

Just for me, personally, getting the dad's cast off wouldn't be an improvement over just not getting her at all and being able to ignore her,

 

[PSYlevi]

Alright, let’s break this down...

There are two main points to consider here:

First — this is a porn game, and let’s be honest, a lot of people are here just for the fap, right?
Personally, when I play something like this, I’m not really into voyeurism or NTR being part of the main story. But if it’s in a gallery, as an optional scene, then I’ll watch it — because at that point, it’s just for the "fap"

Second — I need to follow a coherent storyline. The MC’s father is a powerful guy, a real tough one. He’s definitely not someone who’d get cucked. If something like that ever happened, he would kill both the MC and Rachel without hesitation.
So rest assured: there will be no NTR in this game.

Now, think about it — the only logical way to have a sex scene with Rachel would be if the MC’s father dies, right?
But if I go down that route, it could take 1 or 2 years in development for that to actually happen…
And let’s be honest, Rachel is an extremely attractive character. It would feel like a waste not to have any sexual content with her.

The only viable option, then, is voyeurism. Since there won’t be NTR, and she won’t be a love interest for the MC while the father is still alive.

But of course — if you have a better idea on how to create a scene with her, without killing off the MC’s dad and still staying away from NTR — I’m totally open to hearing it.

1. A Lot people not gonna bother with the game if this only for a fap, pornhub exist for this. AVN need some decent story for people get invested. And if this a harem game, some ppl gonna self insert as MC.
2. No one talking about NTR from father point of view. It's about MC point view, if Rachel is future LI, then it's not gonna sit well with harem fans.

You say that Rachel is attractive character, and it would be a waste not have sexual content with her. Most harem fans not interested in watching, hearing another ppl have sex (99% harem fans gonna disable voyer option), so Rachel model is wasted here. If she at some point become as a love interest, harem fans not gonna be interested in her, because they don't want sloppy seconds after father, so Rachel model again wasted for nothing.

 

[Wicks99]

Just for me, personally, getting the dad's cast off wouldn't be an improvement over just not getting her at all and being able to ignore her,

LOL for me I don't have any particular kinks I'm against short of the few extreme ones like guro, scat or necrophilia. I can accept most kinks as long as the story, dialogue and renders are good.

I was just giving a few suggestions to the developer if he somehow wants to use a model that somehow got stuck with the MC's father beyond voyeurism.

 

[_Akkira_]

so i went thinking that i could disable it, but no option to do so. you can chose to watch it or not, but you still hear it when you walk by, you hear her moaning and saying "yes baby... fuck me" and first after then you get the option to watch or ignore.
after that i saw that rachel has affection/submission stats so i asume shes a LI and gonna be a part of mc's harem in the future. hearing or seeing a future LI with any other male then the mc is a hard skip for me atleast.

I made a revision and updated the Mega links — for now, only the Mega links. By default, it's enabled, but right before the first scene happens, the game will ask the player whether they want to keep it enabled or turn it off.

There is a standard way out of this, which is the usual forbidden love and eventual confrontation. Hard to carry out without getting cringey though...

Alternate way is to plot the story in a way that MC's father voluntarily wants to get rid of her because of political / business interest. I remembered some IRL novels using this plot device before.

I have to admit I thought about that, but I don't think it would fit well with the storyline.

I appreciate the answers. Since I haven't played yet I don't really have a point of reference for the specific characters looks or their personalities. As long as she's never a love interest then I can just pass on the voyeurism and it won't be a big deal.

As far as a way to have sex scenes with her (or at least her attractive model) in another way, and this is just off the top of my head, maybe give her a twin sister that becomes a love interest of the Mc? Half joking, but could be a fun idea. As I said I get it, you didn't spent time finding and/or making a model you find attractive for no reason and as long as voyeurism isn't forced and can be totally ignored then I'm can live with it.

Yeah, it's going to be complicated — it's better to keep things as they are for now. But what I can say for sure is that she won’t be part of the MC’s harem.

1. A Lot people not gonna bother with the game if this only for a fap, pornhub exist for this. AVN need some decent story for people get invested. And if this a harem game, some ppl gonna self insert as MC.
2. No one talking about NTR from father point of view. It's about MC point view, if Rachel is future LI, then it's not gonna sit well with harem fans.

You say that Rachel is attractive character, and it would be a waste not have sexual content with her. Most harem fans not interested in watching, hearing another ppl have sex (99% harem fans gonna disable voyer option), so Rachel model is wasted here. If she at some point become as a love interest, harem fans not gonna be interested in her, because they don't want sloppy seconds after father, so Rachel model again wasted for nothing.

Yes, I understand your point — it's really a shame.

 

[Sngo]

Alright, let’s break this down...

There are two main points to consider here:

First — this is a porn game, and let’s be honest, a lot of people are here just for the fap, right?
Personally, when I play something like this, I’m not really into voyeurism or NTR being part of the main story. But if it’s in a gallery, as an optional scene, then I’ll watch it — because at that point, it’s just for the "fap"

Second — I need to follow a coherent storyline. The MC’s father is a powerful guy, a real tough one. He’s definitely not someone who’d get cucked. If something like that ever happened, he would kill both the MC and Rachel without hesitation.
So rest assured: there will be no NTR in this game.

Now, think about it — the only logical way to have a sex scene with Rachel would be if the MC’s father dies, right?
But if I go down that route, it could take 1 or 2 years in development for that to actually happen…
And let’s be honest, Rachel is an extremely attractive character. It would feel like a waste not to have any sexual content with her.

The only viable option, then, is voyeurism. Since there won’t be NTR, and she won’t be a love interest for the MC while the father is still alive.

But of course — if you have a better idea on how to create a scene with her, without killing off the MC’s dad and still staying away from NTR — I’m totally open to hearing it.

If I just wanted to FAP VN wouldn't be the choice for sure, VN is to enjoy a story and if you want to self insert as the protagonist the FAP material is a good extra if it's just to FAP there is a million sites to use.

If she is going to be part of MC harem then it's already NTR, if she is not then it's just wasted time on the scene and the model itself.

What is the point of the voyeurism scenes?
Add any relevant info to the story?
Or it's just to know they have sex...
Time better used doing story parts or scenes for the mc that the majority of players can enjoy and not only a small minority.
Honestly can't understand this kind of scenes, only serve to waste time, drive away players and call player's that don't fit the VN genre the game claims to follow..

What did that scene bring to the game other than the storm raising in the forum ? Attention?Good or bad ?

Will wait and see but probably not for me with this kind of scenes and wasted character's. Other than that, It looked interesting.

Either way GL with the project.

 

[Uddu]

What is the point of the voyeurism scenes?

I second this. If voyeurism provides a certain context to the story, then yeah, sure, put it in. But as this was the first voy scene, it had no value to the story. If you wanna tell they are having sex, then add text that they are having sex while the door is closed.

Also as people alluded before here if it's just for fap then we already have better sites, games for it. If you want it to be a fap material you need to work hard on animations at least. For now, they are mediocre at best (constructive criticism here).

Since you are a new dev, and hoping you wanna continue on this journey, making a good story game is always better than fap material game for the long run and maybe future projects after this.

Don't take this as hate, it's just some criticism after reading some replies. I love playing new games with different stories, so good luck for the future, and I'll try the game again after a couple of updates.