Would strongly beg to differ there.
I don't touch MTLs at all because as you (and much of the community) have said, "it's better than nothing." The issue is that there's two contrasting viewpoints that people share, which is: 1.) I want this game translated now, so I don't care that it's MTL, and 2.) This MTL is poetry, is broken, or introduces some sort of problem/bug with the game, so now I want it translated.
What that tells an actual fan translator (and not the people who claim to be translators by dumping games into MTool/BepinEx/T++) is that the community doesn't care about their efforts and is fine with MTL. Honestly, it seems like half the people here, based on their ability to string together cogent or coherent sentences, are ESL speakers and can't understand a true translation anyway, so MTLs might just be okay with them. Therefore, it's in both the community and the translator's interest to avoid wasting time in something the community is seemingly content with, and instead to focus on a completely untranslated game to translate. Sure, nobody "likes" an MTL, but not only is it easier to produce, but it's also "acceptable" for many folks. And if you're thinking there no harm in MTLs, it's discouraging to translators, at least for me, in picking them up. That's why the same complaints get repeated over and over again - Because people don't understand how MTLs fully affect the community, as they're only focused on what they're getting as instant gratification.
The community needs to be more united on what they want. If y'all want MTLs, that's totally fine. If not, the trade-off is that y'all need to wait patiently since fan-translations take time (like months), meaning the newest games shouldn't be expected to be translated immediately. We're also not robots. We can only really work on one at a time, and we have lives outside of this since it's a hobby not a real job (hence the "fan" part of fan-translators). And it's always nice to know you're appreciated, even if it's not with a monetary contribution.
Anyway, I already had this in my "to-translate" folder, but yeah, I've got so many translations to work on that I'm sorta glad this is MTLed. If people keep complaining, I'll take a look and see how long it'll take to translate.
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Don't vomit out a bad MTL at all.
MTL hurts a games chance of getting picked up by real translators cause it "was already translated".
Not to mention game breaking bugs and non translated arts diminish the rating of such games, further decreasing a real translation.
The only bad MTL games I have seen that still got properly picked up were so good that even MTL couldn't ruin their scores.
This is an average game with good CGs. Not enough to survive MTL "translated" status.
There's multiple ways of implementing word wrapping. One thing you have to be careful of is tagging the correct rows only so that you don't break scripts doing it.
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A lot of the text just stays on one line and goes out of the text box. Probably missing a fair chunk of actual lore and dialogue in a lot of cases. Only two minutes in and the majority of text has done this.
Also, MTL so very consistently screws up "He" and "She". Like Astrid the Succubus looking at the Huge-Tits-Knight Protagonist and saying, "What's with this guy? I knew he wasn't a normal adventurer, but he was too strong..."
It's just so commonly broken in this way. It's kinda jarring that it's also consistent
Also, MTL so very consistently screws up "He" and "She". Like Astrid the Succubus looking at the Huge-Tits-Knight Protagonist and saying, "What's with this guy? I knew he wasn't a normal adventurer, but he was too strong..."
It's just so commonly broken in this way. It's kinda jarring that it's also consistent
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Should be tagged NTR because while skipping through I coulda sworn that Karla/Carla stated that she had a husband while she was with the blacksmith.
EDIT: What he said
EDIT: What he said
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Another generic cookie cutter game. If you've played fallen makina you've played all of these. Seriously, it's fallen makina but the dev just decided to not even make an attempt at combat. so boring.
Didn't edit a single word, just applied word wrap in translator++ to the same mtl, if anyone needs heres data archieve.
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The blacksmith IS her husband and he have particular fantasies so I don't think the game need a NTR tag
Yeah and when a game have H menu and it's not translated its kill the mood (for me at least)
P.S. and from what i can see from few min of playing this game need proper translation
Oh. Well, the MTL didn't really help convey that XD
Still a cheating tag then? There's the dude in the alley, whether or not that's Netorare or Netorase...
From what I'm reading here, the MTooled version must actually be superior to this MTL.
After all, this was very clear to me. The husband is into getting cucked.
Also ... properly TLed menu
(excluding picture stuffs of course).I am definitely sick of people complaining about mtl. It's like 5sec to click on a game see that it's mtl and click out if you aren't into it. God forbid you waste your time when PIRATING a game. Then you people have the nerve to say it's going to make translators not want to translate the game. As if there was ever enough translators in the first place. Do you know how many hgames come out every day, not to mention the absolute mountain of old games. chances are it wouldn't have been translated at all like 95% that come out. You are all a bunch of parasites (as am I), you don't get to complain about the injustice of the free games any more then a tapeworm get to complain about whether the person they are in is eating junk food.
Move along if you don't like something. Or better yet, learn Japanese and start your own Translation service (then get people complain to you that you are not translating the right thing).
Move along if you don't like something. Or better yet, learn Japanese and start your own Translation service (then get people complain to you that you are not translating the right thing).
I think complaining about unreadable text, MTL or not, is perfectly valid. Its not a matter of piracy, its a matter of wasting peoples time. Also, alot of people (me included) will buy games they like and apply translations to the product. This site is also an excellent site for discussions about games of this type.