Deathwings

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It doesn't seem like even that would be enough for most people here. For example NN had tons of reused content or slightly altered artwork while KoD is heavily criticized for it when it happens.
NN was also coming out much faster and while the sex scenes reused CGs a lot, the game was more interesting/amusing then KoD by a wide margin.
KoD's narrative put me to sleep honestly, so even THAT isn't a Saving Grace.
 

Jinsoyun

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NN was also coming out much faster and while the sex scenes reused CGs a lot, the game was more interesting/amusing then KoD by a wide margin.
KoD's narrative put me to sleep honestly, so even THAT isn't a Saving Grace.
Well, the last part is subjective. You don't enjoy the narrative and a lot of people seems to agree with you. But either way one of the first things we've been told about this game is that it will focus a lot more on narrative than NN and that is exactly what's happening. It's everyone's right to not enjoy it, but in terms of content we are getting more or less what we were promised.
But i'm with you on the update speed. NN was rolled out a lot faster and i think a lot of that comes from a few miscalculations by the creators early on. The artwork is higher quality, plus it has backgrounds, so that takes longer to make. In comparison RPGMaker is a lot faster than Renpy, that's two. And the first thing they did was to cut the story into 3 parallel lines right at the beginning which they have to develop at the same time. This gives us less story per update even if they put in more work than they did with NN.
 
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WiccaWicked

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Well, the last part is subjective. You don't enjoy the narrative and a lot of people seems to agree with you. But either way one of the first things we've been told about this game is that it will focus a lot more on narrative than NN and that is exactly what's happening. It's everyone's right to not enjoy it, but in terms of content we are getting more or less what we were promised.
But i'm with you on the update speed. NN was rolled out a lot faster and i think a lot of that comes from a few miscalculations by the creators early on. The artwork is higher quality, plus it has backgrounds, so that takes longer to make. In comparison RPGMaker is a lot faster than Renpy, that's two. And the first thing they did was to cut the story into 3 parallel lines right at the beginning which they have to develop at the same time. This gives us less story per update even if they put in more work than they did with NN.
I mean, so far the story is a bog standard "hero learns the truth" plot, except the orcs are kinda assholes and so is sabias kingdom. So everyone is assholes for the mostpart. The few good parts of it, nieves hinted relationship with the orcs (why is she staying if that one captain wronged her so bad?), the innkeepers past, and that one chill orc all remind me a lot of the last soverign, so with sierra gone, i imagine well get less subtle storytelling and more bland ass pocahontas shit.
The time frame is no mystery, theyre milking patreons for money, given how little they respond to feedback, that seems apparent.
I can get behind the idea of a story driven hrpg, tls was one, and that game was engrossing as fuck. So was opala, but since opaka didnt have sierra level writing, they drew heavily from the "silly and endearing" category with archtypes like the bumbling villain and the earnest, in over her head princess.
Kod doesnt have any of that. Kods BEST quality by far is the character design, if they want to make a good game, id say focus on thay. Make a decent story, with tons of great lookings characters, and have sabia get plowed by them in various levels of depravity.
The hope for a narrative driven game left with sieera. Nomo is an amazing artist and character designer, but they are no great writer. Id say they should hedge their bets on what they know will work, will make fans happy, and will garner support for a better planned story game.
Ill still play kod, everyone in this thread will, but ill not pay a cent for it until their feedback gets a lot better.
 

Architect04

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Dam one of my favorite games is pretty much dead in the water at this point........ I need a hug
I feel you on this one. It had promise and I was super excited to see them start this after how much I enjoyed NN. Unfortunately the problems they ran into, Sierra leaving and the long development between releases has kinda killed the game. At this point I would be fine with them cutting it loose and starting with something fresh. Take what you learned from this and the success you had with NN and combine it. The hype from NN coming into this for people(I know it was stated to be different from the start) was more than they anticipated, NN was simple, Dialogue was short and to the point, H scenes could be found everywhere, Riven and the side characters were known and people gravitated to that as well. Then KoD with unknown characters and long story driven text and less h scenes was a turn off to people becuase they waited months for tons of text and only 2 - 3 new scenes, some that were basically reskins.
 
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Anmitsu

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I'm sick with their bullshit too.
Even putting long updates aside and the reason/s behind them, why aren't they saying anything?
Would it hurt them to say few sentences per week?
If not per week then at least when they feel like it or when they start/finish working on something but somehow constantly.
Instead they just don't say anything at all.
At this point what is the guarantee that they don't work on update like month and then do nothing for a few next milking their retarded patreons? LOL
 

Exodusas

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I'm sick with their bullshit too.
Even putting long updates aside and the reason/s behind them, why aren't they saying anything?
Would it hurt them to say few sentences per week?
If not per week then at least when they feel like it or when they start/finish working on something but somehow constantly.
Instead they just don't say anything at all.
At this point what is the guarantee that they don't work on update like month and then do nothing for a few next milking their retarded patreons? LOL
That's what they seem to be doing right now, feeding people promises that they will improve each release but instead they actually take more and more time for every update, it used to be around 2 months per update now it's almost 4 months without one. If they're actually milking the game like it seems i bet 100% they have the whole update ready by now but are waiting for their patreons to get mad or for a drop in patreon money and they will drop the update, everyone will be happy patreon money will increase for the time being and the process will start again

It's either that or im digging too deep lol
 
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psycohunter96

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The good thing is people are complaining on their patreon wall. Complaining here isnt gonna do anything i think that we should post our complains on their posts so that at least people that are new and want to be their patreons realise its becoming a scam
 

Architect04

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That's what they seem to be doing right now, feeding people promises that they will improve each release but instead they actually take more and more time for every update, it used to be around 2 months per update now it's almost 4 months without one. If they're actually milking the game like it seems i bet 100% they have the whole update ready by now but are waiting for their patreons to get mad or for a drop in patreon money and they will drop the update, everyone will be happy patreon money will increase for the time being and the process will start again

It's either that or im digging too deep lol
I dont think they would milk people to be honest I give them the benefit of the doubt. I just truly think they dont know what they want to do. As creators they probably want to continue their project they thought up and designed but on the other side a vast majority of the fan base is upset with it. Seems like they want to try and change some things and include some more stuff people want but also want to stick to what they thought up originally.

I will say that not having weekly updates or atleast some form of communication especially during these long draughts doesnt help them. Give us a progression bar or some sort of chart to show where you are at on the next update so people dont think you are just letting the game die or milking money.
 

CyderRyder

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I want to hope they aren't just milking the audience because this is one of my favourite games on the site but what else could they be doing? It's not hard to give updates more often then they are, hell i'd be happy with a "what we did this week" kinda update, it would certainly make a lot of their problems go away and make it seem like they're actually working on the game, but they don't, it only leaves people to think that they're just milking the patreon money.
 
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