VN Ren'Py Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[Retromancer]

From that full Patreon post about Sierra leaving "It might surprise to some to learn that all of the characters, most of the story and plot, history and backstory, as well as even some of the speech patterns of characters are also my creation." That's from Nomo. So any hatred towards the catgirls or Kia rests squarely on him. With Sierra leaving and the communication issues still not resolved, it's also pretty clear where the blame for that lies. I really like Sierra so I am biased but it seems pretty clear that a lot of the issues with the game people have cannot be laid on her. Would the game be better with her? I think so, but only marginally because the same problems would exist if she was still on the team. Her leaving didn't ruin the project - but it may have saved it because now people can rightly direct the blame where it needs to go, and maybe, finally, the person responsible may listen and respond

 

[RNDM]

I see it's time for the Sierra circlejerk again.

Is she a decent writer? Sure, in the context of western porn games. But that's like saying she's the greatest basketball player in a court full of midgets. People acting like she's the Tolkien of porn games need to relax. The reason for this game's downward spiral isn't her absence, it's the lack of communication between the devs and their supporters where they would go months without a check in on top of adding scenes that literally nobody asked for like all the shit with the catgirls while giving the main attraction of this game (Sabia) barely new content. It was like that even before she left too.

Considering the current topic was the "creative differences" involved in her leaving the project rather than the management and communication issues already previously covered...

 

[ahrimansiah]

well personally i would rather have both 50/50 both story and porn! without this story there is far better porn games/comics outthere and in other hand without enough porn art/dick for sabia then whats the point of KOD anyway?
So in the end i do believe a balance of 50/50 is best!

 

[baneini]

The reason for this game's downward spiral isn't her absence, it's the lack of communication between the devs and their supporters where they would go months without a check in on top of adding scenes that literally nobody asked for like all the shit with the catgirls while giving the main attraction of this game (Sabia) barely new content. It was like that even before she left too.

You'd think they knew what people wanted given they set out to make a female mc corruption game. I don't think "communication" is the problem. I think what genre of game the devs wanted to work on and what fanbase they wanted to attract was the problem.
SL wants to attract the womens/lesbian erotica crowd, nomo wants the far more numerous corruption game fanbase. For a while they tried to walk some compromise path where no one gets what they want while double dipping into each fanbases and now we're back at how things were at launch.

 

[I Love These Games]

I play the game to see Sabia dicked. For me scenes are more important than the story but story has to be decent. Also please for the love of god no more Orc ladies , furries or some weird shit. I want them to get dicked just like in NN. Only Riven, Kata, Irelia and LB.

 

[Retromancer]

I'm sure you'll enjoy the new catgirl character, then

 

[ahrimansiah]

I play the game to see Sabia dicked. For me scenes are more important than the story but story has to be decent. Also please for the love of god no more Orc ladies , furries or some weird shit. I want them to get dicked just like in NN. Only Riven, Kata, Irelia and LB.

TOTALLY agree! SPECIALLY on no orc lady or futa monster lady! for me the theme of a warrior girl surviving in an orc camp and being ravaged by them was extremely hot to me! NOT another oh KYAAAA dont rape meeee japanes hentai crap! and due to that when she was fucked/raped/dominated it was far more attractive to me! but this recent furry and catgirl or orc girl lesbian/fuck crap totally kills it for me! its like totaly another game when it involve them and waste a good resource to be used instead for advance in sabia story and corruption!

 

[ahrimansiah]

I'm sure you'll enjoy the new catgirl character, then

what?!! there is another cat girl in upcoming version?!!!

 

[Viressa]

I just wanna see Nomo draw my scene where Dom!Sabia puts Tekrok in his place.

what?!! there is another cat girl in upcoming version?!!!

Technically a recurring character: The pink-haired catgirl leader who gets chained up and fucked in the tents if you chose "recruited" or "freed" at the end of the catgirl quest. She's being turned into a major character.

 

[TheSexinati]

I just wanna scene where Rokgrid and Sabia bring their kids to daycare...

Because I am a horrible profligate!

 

[Retromancer]

her name is Bris, apparently

 

[Draka232]

her name is Bris, apparently

View attachment 279429

Looks hot I hope she has a lot of scenes

 

[Viressa]

It's officially the 10th

 

[ahrimansiah]

her name is Bris, apparently

View attachment 279429

she is hot indeed but this means even more distraction from main story and less sabia.... all this new side character activities makes me worry, im afraid that KOD will end up another unfinished game due to story being scattered to much before finishing main story

 

[Viressa]

I hate to say it but I'm inclined to agree: Unless they're gonna pivot into an F/F game and, as much as I'd like them to, that's very clearly not where they're going with this, there are already too many side girls for this team to manage and adding at least three more (Bris, Kira, Rhea) isn't going to help matters at all.

Also, I'm not a fan of Bris's design: Her poofy hair belongs in the 80's, her outfit is absolutely ridiculous, and her body type is already well-occupied design space by Maply and Elmy. Maybe I'm wrong and I'll be blown away when we meet her in the new update but I'm expecting her to be a waste.

 

[Draka232]

Yeah I admit that we might be getting too many female side characters but at the same time I really really like catgirls so

 

[ahrimansiah]

I hate to say it but I'm inclined to agree: Unless they're gonna pivot into an F/F game and, as much as I'd like them to, that's very clearly not where they're going with this, there are already too many side girls for this team to manage and adding at least three more (Bris, Kira, Rhea) isn't going to help matters at all.

Also, I'm not a fan of Bris's design: Her poofy hair belongs in the 80's, her outfit is absolutely ridiculous, and her body type is already well-occupied design space by Maply and Elmy. Maybe I'm wrong and I'll be blown away when we meet her in the new update but I'm expecting her to be a waste.

yeah ur right i didnt pay much attention to details but now that im checking her again, her outfit is way to modern, sluty and out of lore! and as u said the body is same and nothing at least new! which give me suspection that they made it this way so they can use head replace on some of already existence arts... >.> its clear that KOD have a dark future in its way! i HOPE im wrong, but if that ever happened and KOD was left unfinished i hope Viressa can at least come up with an ending which can close the story somehow...

 

[Interracial UglyB NTR Fan]

The games gone from a story driven corruption to a lesbian furry harem, maybe the next few updates will determine if Sierra died for our sins and it was Nomo ruining the game all along

 

[dafvid112]

Noxian Nights is my favourite hgame and I just can't understand how they managed to do that so well. It was balanced so well between the few female mains and the corruption. And the updates came fast. I also think most of my dislikes are towards renpy not the story or the characters here.

 

[Interracial UglyB NTR Fan]

Noxian Nights is my favourite hgame and I just can't understand how they managed to do that so well. It was balanced so well between the few female mains and the corruption. And the updates came fast. I also think most of my dislikes are towards renpy not the story or the characters here.

Inconceivable, You think people preferred RPGM to Renpy? the only complaints about Renpy I've read is that they blamed a lot of the delays on figuring out python coding needed for it, not against the engine itself