MarshmallowCasserole

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Just 2nd, huh?

But I guess I can see it, renpy not actually offering any gameplay mechanics other than dialogues and menu choices and that skews the picture. Just let's not pretend things like this don't exist in other engines, and renpy is somehow to blame rather than devs' lazyness.
 
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Renpy interface is quite obnoxious for non-visual novel games, also mouse-based interaction is annoying and makes repetitive tasks even more of a chore. One of my main gripes with the game is how bloody long it takes to do anything, and how grindy certain tasks end up being (like the insufferable grind to get money for the feast) constantly having to revisit areas checking for changes with each update is also really annoying (do I go talk to Kira now? No, there was a scene somewhere else first. OK now? Nope, that opened up a scene elsewhere you need to do before that, etc. etc.)
For UI its identical to RPGM box buttons. Renpy allows you to customise the UI far more, the devs just aren't using it.

As for grind, you can bind ctrl to your any mouse button for easy skipping, get used to high sens for fast clicking all over the screen, the load times are virtually non-existent in Renpy as where RPGM is like DOS, which is fine in looks not so much in performance, replaying a game in RPGM especially is torture

In regards to the game play grind you described nothing thats exclusive to Renpy it would be the same in any other engine both have save editors to reduce grind but console commands in Renpy allow you to manipluate varaibles in real time which is a huge bonus if you hate grind as I do

I would also have greatly preferred a general narrative of a dominant Sabia using sex as a means to an end and using the desires of those around her against them, but playing the dominant route now is mostly just going around and just occasionally, almost randomly, having sex with something that came up, which ends up feeling jarring as it's a normally "dominant" Sabia just ends up going out to get fucked by something (Kia/tentacles etc.) with the only exception being Lutvog
Can't argue with you here, the decisions only matter in sex scenes and the totally of the difference is a few pictures and sentences of dialogue, the sub/dom paths aren't paths just scene variants
 

Develing

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Probably thats the Hreinn feature - making everything in last possible moment. That would be really funny if they would release it 11th.
 

telc0ntar

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It's the 11th now in my part of the world - damn you, Hreinn games. The Tekrok scene better be worth it - I need some good orc content, and no other game satisfies the itch like this does.
 
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Marissa89

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I apologize for the question, can anyone help me with an issue? I am not able to access the menu from the game, I have been trying right clicking or pressing the exit button but I cannot access the game menu, why is that?
 
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Viressa

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This is a bug renpy games seem to have sometimes: I'm not sure of the exact cause, but it seems to have to d with the game getting confused about what "layer" of screens is currently "in focus" and capable of interacting with the mouse. Try killing the app with the task manager and loading your most recent save.
 

TheSexinati

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Ahem, obligatory lyrics Ahoy.

"Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and I turn
And I dream of what I need
I need a hero!
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night!"
 

Marissa89

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This is a bug renpy games seem to have sometimes: I'm not sure of the exact cause, but it seems to have to d with the game getting confused about what "layer" of screens is currently "in focus" and capable of interacting with the mouse. Try killing the app with the task manager and loading your most recent save.
Thank you, although, I have been trying using a new version of the game, and it seems to be working just fine. However, as I enabled the console commands, I couldn't access to the menu again. I have noticed that, once enabling the console, every time I start the app it does go automatically to start a new game, loading the introduction without me pressing any buttons.
Is there anyone that could suggest one enabling the console without think to happen?
 

TheMagister

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Choosing between RPG Maker and Ren'Py is quite easy for making a game:

Are you making (essentially) a visual novel, where the gameplay is limited to dialogue choices?
Yes -> use Ren'Py
No -> Fuck off, don't even consider it
 
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censuur

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VN with or without combat -> use Ren'Py
VN with combat? Renpy combat at that? Are you confusing this for a "design the worst game concept" competition or what? Thing is Renpy "with gameplay" always ends up being a shitty early 90s adventure game with only the dialogue and terrible fighting systems those games had and none of the actual exploration and puzzling, and let me tell you no one in their right mind likes the fighting systems in old 90s adventure games.

Renpy combat tends to be all the worst elements of turn-based combat and none of the interesting out-of-combat min-maxing that is actually the meat of games with good turn based combat (combat generally only really the platform to showcase/flaunt a build in turn-based games imo)
 

Viressa

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Thank you, although, I have been trying using a new version of the game, and it seems to be working just fine. However, as I enabled the console commands, I couldn't access to the menu again. I have noticed that, once enabling the console, every time I start the app it does go automatically to start a new game, loading the introduction without me pressing any buttons.
Is there anyone that could suggest one enabling the console without think to happen?
That's very strange. What method did you use to enable the console? Try reinstalling the game and using unren.
 

Develing

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So GMT -4/-10. if we imagine that this guy lives somewhere in Los-Angeles and add there hreinn preference to make everything in last moment that would mean that we have to wait something like 10 hours.great.
 
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VN with combat? Renpy combat at that? Are you confusing this for a "design the worst game concept" competition or what? Thing is Renpy "with gameplay" always ends up being a shitty early 90s adventure game with only the dialogue and terrible fighting systems those games had and none of the actual exploration and puzzling, and let me tell you no one in their right mind likes the fighting systems in old 90s adventure games.

Renpy combat tends to be all the worst elements of turn-based combat and none of the interesting out-of-combat min-maxing that is actually the meat of games with good turn based combat (combat generally only really the platform to showcase/flaunt a build in turn-based games imo)
I'd rather have turn based combat in Renpy than RPGM, it's essentially the exact same except I can make it 10x faster with skip animation and fast foward text or speed it up with cheat engine which unlike in RPGM wont crash Renpy

Also min/max inventory is also an option for any dev that wants to implement it in Renpy, even KoD has it just not very in depth

Wasnt Malise and the machine RPGM? it was quite a good game before they decide to abuse it
but would it of been better in Renpy or RPGM
 

FatDragonite

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Sooooo guys how soon can I expect an android port for the next update? ............AND NO THIS IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION
 

lavos1999

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Eh personally I am not really fond of playing game in small pieces so I generally wait for significant points to catch up if not outright waiting for the game to be completed before playing(It is why I haven't touched TLS yet for example). Thus I reckon I am not playing through this one again for a few years, though since this isn't all that much I keep up with thread and with people kind enough to make it easy I do check the new scenes from the rare updates.

I'd rather have turn based combat in Renpy than RPGM, it's essentially the exact same except I can make it 10x faster with skip animation and fast foward text or speed it up with cheat engine which unlike in RPGM wont crash Renpy
A decent coded RPGM game has no issues when using the cheat engine speedhack, used it for playing MGQP especially Labyrinth for example. It is kinda like the rollback feature Renpy has that often causes problems because devs are shitty.
 
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