VN Ren'Py Abandoned Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[psycohunter96]

You are either dumb or biased if you think that criticism isn't justified. Also, if I don't give the money do the developers does that make my opinion less valid? I will help you, It doesn't make it any less valid than patreons opinion. It is even more important because non patreons won't lie to themselves that game is actually improving when they can see the down fall happening. After 2 years of developement we are finally leaving the Orc camp. Is that the progress? If it continues like this and somehow their game does not die, we will see the end of Sabia's story in 2025. So, stop lying to yourself that criticism isn't justified at all.

I believe that anyone who says things like that and tries to justify the creators is actually trolling just to get some replies and attention or just to have fun, if i start believing that these are their opinions well i will go crazy by the stupidity of the world. I suggest you do the same and look at comments like this as troll spam

 

[Kerlon]

some random guys from third world countries actually believe they are entitled to get regular updates but I tell you so much, eventhough arguing with you is a waste of time because you lack logical thinking, the first one who benefits the most from great updates and satisfied patrons are the devs themselves. Why? because they get more patrons.
I actually feel bad for you guys, your life must be sad if you spend so much time and energy shit talking this game. You could literally learn Renpy or RPG Maker with that time and make your own games, making everything better that hreinngames does.

 

[FlipFish]

some random guys from third world countries actually believe they are entitled to get regular updates but I tell you so much, eventhough arguing with you is a waste of time because you lack logical thinking, the first one who benefits the most from great updates and satisfied patrons are the devs themselves. Why? because they get more patrons.
I actually feel bad for you guys, your life must be sad if you spend so much time and energy shit talking this game. You could literally learn Renpy or RPG Maker with that time and make your own games, making everything better that hreinngames does.

You literally haven't refuted a single one of my points, instead you just made blanket statement about how we're apparently all idiots while simultaneously strawmanning.

Look I don't want to start an argument and will drop this after this post since it's off topic, but if you just come in here and decide to insult people for giving their opinion on a public forum about a game that is available to the public in regards to what is an obviously troubled development cycle then be prepared to properly back it up.

 

[nobodyknowsthyself]

Can anyone please give me the gallery unlock or a full save? i cannot seem to finish the game with all scene unlock

 

[Kerlon]

You literally haven't refuted a single one of my points, instead you just made blanket statement about how we're apparently all idiots while simultaneously strawmanning.

Look I don't want to start an argument and will drop this after this post since it's off topic, but if you just come in here and decide to insult people for giving their opinion on a public forum about a game that is available to the public in regards to what is an obviously troubled development cycle then be prepared to properly back it up.

? you realize that my first post was targeted to the previous poster that made up a story where he said patrons were complaining in the comments section. I never said that non-patrons could not criticize them but I understand, you people just fish for drama because you have nothing better to do.

 

[Exodusas]

Can anyone please give me the gallery unlock or a full save? i cannot seem to finish the game with all scene unlock

Download tthe jdmod it unlocks all the scenes, its on op post

 

[WiccaWicked]

? you realize that my first post was targeted to the previous poster that made up a story where he said patrons were complaining in the comments section. I never said that non-patrons could not criticize them but I understand, you people just fish for drama because you have nothing better to do.

Theres a lot of personal attacking going on here for literally no reason. People are annoyed for good reason, absurdly slow update speed with almost zero dev outreach and minimal content, public mood has shifted. A month ago they made 5400 dollars a month, now they make 4700. Thats more than 10% drop in funds, thats not imaginary. And no one here is fishing for drama besides you. Most of us were annoyed with the game, you made it personal because, my guess, you dont have a SINGLE valid arguement to offer up to defend hreinn. Slow times maybe you could defend. Low quality content or not listening to fans, maybe you could defend. How in the HELL can you defend their silence?

And peoole are 100% complaining in posts. My quess is that nost patreons dont complain because if you care so little about a monthly subscription that you rarely check it, you probably dont care about tinely updates. And i cant imagine you would continue to subscripe if there are no content uPdates for three months OTHER than apathy.

 

[CB74]

The people who complain about the length of time for updates should look at some of the other games that have been made. Many have had long gaps in the update releases. In some of the cases depending on how many people who are working on the project and what it costs to live where they do, may have a second job or even (gasp) a life other than just making games. As much as I would like an update as well, I can wait and see what happens. And for those who aren't paying for the subscription, deal with it, you're getting something for nothing, you aren't entitled to anything if they don't want to give you anything. The only people who have a legitamate right to complain would be those paying.

 

[YungZeus]

They should just release an update soon. Even if it has bugs, they can fix it on the go.

 

[Sevatar88]

Well I took roughly a 3 month break from posting to find...nothing new. Guess I'll go back to bed.

 

[Heff_Wulf]

Well, this will most likely to be put "Onhold" or "Abandoned" at some point similar to other games from other Devs.

When the money starts to dry up they run with their tails between their legs. (or Go radio silent)

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

The people who complain about the length of time for updates should look at some of the other games that have been made. Many have had long gaps in the update releases. In some of the cases depending on how many people who are working on the project and what it costs to live where they do, may have a second job or even (gasp) a life other than just making games. As much as I would like an update as well, I can wait and see what happens. And for those who aren't paying for the subscription, deal with it, you're getting something for nothing, you aren't entitled to anything if they don't want to give you anything. The only people who have a legitamate right to complain would be those paying.

Wonder how many paying complainers we would find here...

 

[Tac_Obray]

The updates as of recently have been on about a 3 month schedule. Amount of content released per update aside, the game has not yet hit a threshold where it is "late" as of yet. They also did not release a date for the new update.

While releasing limited information is a bad practice, they have not yet done anything egregious, as some have suggested. The only thing they have done is make some patrons unsatisfied with the schedule of content creation.

IF they were doing this on kickstarter, where a product is promised at a certain time wtih certain features, people may be able to get a refund if they miss a date. However, they haven't even given a date to miss. In addition this is patreon. This is "pay to help us try to put a product out," not "pay for this product with these features on this date." People can pull money out as they wish. Im certain once the release happens people will either return or new people will show up to throw them their 5 dollars a month.

I just hope we get more content with Fluff Tooth in the kennels PATREON HAS REMOVED THE PREVIOUS COMMENT DUE TO A VIOLATION OF POLICY. MOVE ALONG CITIZEN. or with the minotaurs.

 

[Heff_Wulf]

Wonder how many paying complainers we would find here...

The whole problem with people saying you cannot say anything unless you pay is that it does not work as in reviewing something, some of them get review copy's of the items (Games) for free they just need to write a review, So by the idea of the people who are protecting the Devs those reviews are invalid.

 

[Anmitsu]

The whole problem with people saying you cannot say anything unless you pay is that it does not work as in reviewing something, some of them get review copy's of the items (Games) for free they just need to write a review, So by the idea of the people who are protecting the Devs those reviews are invalid.

That's a really good way of looking at it, I've never thought about it this way.
Makes you realize how retarded this whole "you don't pay so you've no right to criticize" sounds.

 

[ahrimansiah]

some random guys from third world countries actually believe they are entitled to get regular updates but I tell you so much, even though arguing with you is a waste of time because you lack logical thinking, the first one who benefits the most from great updates and satisfied patrons are the devs themselves. Why? because they get more patrons.
I actually feel bad for you guys, your life must be sad if you spend so much time and energy shit talking this game. You could literally learn Renpy or RPG Maker with that time and make your own games, making everything better that hreinngames does.

and some random guy like YOU lurks in this OPEN FORUMES spend time and energy to insult everyone because HE believes he is so special that he can call others third world random guys (which also indicted that you thinks millions of ppl who belong to 3rd world are below you!) and in the end provide no valid criticism or point about the topic, the amount of logical thinking behind this comment is overwhelming!

 

[LEET]

That's a really good way of looking at it, I've never thought about it this way.
Makes you realize how retarded this whole "you don't pay so you've no right to criticize" sounds.

The thing is if you do pay and criticize something, you then get the "you're just butthurt it wasn't for you." I've gotten that a couple of times before.

 

[WiccaWicked]

The thing is if you do pay and criticize something, you then get the "you're just butthurt it wasn't for you." I've gotten that a couple of times before.

People don't like to hear that something they like is going down the drain. It sucks when it happens, but it always happens to smaller projects that are way too ambitious. I hate seeing game grumps go to shit, but their latest content has been ass. I miss their old stuff. It's like that, people don't want to accept the unfortunate reality that KoD is just a money grabbing scheme atm, and the only thing that will encourage change is to NOT support them with money. If they have to earn it back, that forces motivation.

 

[Not_A_Horse]

People don't like to hear that something they like is going down the drain. It sucks when it happens, but it always happens to smaller projects that are way too ambitious. I hate seeing game grumps go to shit, but their latest content has been ass. I miss their old stuff. It's like that, people don't want to accept the unfortunate reality that KoD is just a money grabbing scheme atm, and the only thing that will encourage change is to NOT support them with money. If they have to earn it back, that forces motivation.

Nah, people don't like hearing criticism period.

The subject of the criticism doesn't have to be going down the drain for that to be true. It's just if people like something they'll feel personally invested in it and thus can take criticism as a personal attack, especially if it's less than constructive.

Also, as someone who has not been following the development of KoD, how are they a money grabbing scheme?

 

[FatDragonite]

Plz stop the mods have locked this thread before for less ..........give your new boyfriend your number and you guys can text just not here