Anonymous0016

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also, storywise, if sabia's mum is the matriarch, couldn't she have gone to her and informed her of Lynn's plots instead of returning back to the orc camp for revenge? all that trouble. seems like a plot hole to me
 

souldead341

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can you achieve an ending in this game? or has the content not reached that far yet
Only some bad endings so far.

As for the matriarch plot hole, my understanding is that Sabia suspects her mother and who knows who else might be involved and even if not they're a highly social darwinist society. So if you have to rely on someone else to deal with a plot you're considered weak and less favored, especially as a noble.
 

EpicReee

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IIRC and if they didn't change it, Sabia's mom AND Lynn plotted against Sabia. So I don't see why Sabia's mom would ever even talk to Sabia anymore, as she herself sent her out to get ravaged by the orcs.

At least that was the story opening from when I last played.
 
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microskills

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At the moment what I expect is more a cancellation than anything else, sadly.
Could you elaborate why you think so?


Speaking as a huge fan of KoD and wishing it all success its my opinion that given the slow update rate, current conditions and what has already been implemented its highly unlikely that they will finish this game. Take a look for a moment at how the updates have been going then go in game and look at the map. There are innumerable areas on the map that cannot be accessed yet. Given that fact, in order to give purpose to even half the places on the map would necessitate Writing and art production at a scale which i do not think they are capable of. Not to mention the actual coding. I give credit where credit is do. Making these games/VN's is not simple. If it were than everyone could just crank it to their own self made perversions. But there is a difference between a game that is a labor of love and a game that makes you money. I used to support this game but i could not in good conscience continue to. A New Dawn(which i also used to support) is in almost the same boat in my opinion although the problem there is that while there are updates they aren't really adding anything to the game or advancing the story. Which is a biggie on KoD's case cause there really is ACTUAL story telling potential in addition to porn. KoD's best best now would be to rejigger the map and get rid of half the locations, Finish finding Groknak who i think happens to be a decent fellow, and get the game back on track to Sabia getting revenge on her family culminating in around 3 or 4 possible endings depending on choices, Sub/Dom, and some slight variation depending on which captain you side with. It lets them end the game gracefully so they can start a new project. Truth is, their supporters are loyal. But if this goes on to much longer without ANY regular communication let alone (quality) updates they will inevitably start Hemorrhaging supporters and that will be that.

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First of I share your worries with Hreinn Games, I feel they are one of the few Patreon devs that at least tries to make unique games that are within the fantasy genre, I'm especially worried they may disband.

But the ambitious nature of the game has been there for a long time, my guess is that they planned/plan on trying to finish the "main story" or rather Chapter 1 and then either use the rest of the assets to expand into further Chapters or to just use them as smaller side-stories that would be a step up from Noxian Nights different endings.

To be fair when I first played KoD I thought it would've either turn into a more strategy or sandbox oriented game, which would've made routes more easy to box the player into (like in say Heaven Studio's game).

The way I see it thought with development isn't so much the concern about the fact that their scope seems out of reach (with the exception of ALL the different choices, so 100% agree that you could say glue together human-only route with Rokgrid route together with some flavor text), instead it seems the issue with Hreinn Games keeps on adding more and more characters and objectives to the main story that honestly comes off as side objectives.

Also I feel that KoD is starting to become large enough with no real QoL additions to say progression routes that it's becoming increasingly harder and harder to find every side-story or even story, since it's quite linear in how you go with the story.

Still I would argue KoD is in a far better state than the mess that is Seed of Chaos, where all the side stories are mixed up and on top of that is more or less random which story gets to advance and it's just a huge mess.

The worry I have now with the story is that the Dom-to-Sub/DtD seems to be going waaaay to fast given that before they really took their time in slowly easing Sabia into 1 of two paths.
And some characters I feel seems to be heading slowly in the way of irrelevancy, Neve and Maply comes to mind.

To add to your recommendation, I honestly think they should only focus on human vs orc dynamic, the catgirls and chimera and yada, yada feels more and more like an anchor taking up unnecessary space, since it seems that those creatures was more meant to be side-stories/appetizers.


Lastly I think it's still worth supporting them especially given the circumstances of the world at the moment, understandable if you personally can't, but it's better to support and try get their side of the story, instead of not supporting them yet worry about their livelihood.

Side note: interesting though you brought up New Dawn since I always felt that Claire's Quest (*AHEM* excluding YS) takes the cake in adding 0 content that is vital to the actual main story,
 
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Azurite

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Could you elaborate why you think so?
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You actually answered for me with your post. I think the game will be abandoned because it became too bloated to succeed/be finished in a coherent and pleasing way. This and the fact Nomo just went through something that could force him to take some time for himself away from the game. Without Nomo, it would be difficult to properly continue the game I guess. And the fact the last updates, in my opinion, took too long to be released and were kind of lackluster.

Obviously I'm just a consoomer and I wish them the best.
 

Epifan

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Hey guys, letting you know where we are at.

We mentioned we wanted to make a few revisions to .10 due to not getting it quite to where we wanted it initially (including the Bris CG). We are almost done with this. For a recap, the main points were:
- Including Bris CG
- Re-doing Prison mini-CGs
- Adjusting the prison quest to allow more player agency with how the sex scenes play out

We have also been working on the $25+ reward tier packs as well. Currently we are half finished with these.

We're hoping to have these completed and released this month so that we can focus entirely on .11 and moving forward. While we are primarily focused currently on completing the revisions to .10 and the reward packs, we have also started working on .11 and Monsinne has begun writing quests for it.

Thanks for your support guys. We hope to get back into the swing of it. Stay safe, everyone.
 

Dante477

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Hey guys, letting you know where we are at.

We mentioned we wanted to make a few revisions to .10 due to not getting it quite to where we wanted it initially (including the Bris CG). We are almost done with this. For a recap, the main points were:
- Including Bris CG
- Re-doing Prison mini-CGs
- Adjusting the prison quest to allow more player agency with how the sex scenes play out

We have also been working on the $25+ reward tier packs as well. Currently we are half finished with these.

We're hoping to have these completed and released this month so that we can focus entirely on .11 and moving forward. While we are primarily focused currently on completing the revisions to .10 and the reward packs, we have also started working on .11 and Monsinne has begun writing quests for it.

Thanks for your support guys. We hope to get back into the swing of it. Stay safe, everyone.
Delicious. Finally, some good fucking news.
 
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0.9 came out in september. Then 0.10 in march. But wait, it wasn't all of 0.10 so they said they will do a quick update with a few more scenes. 3 months go by and maybe we'll get the rest of 0.10 in june. That will bring the total development time for 0.10 to 9 months (if they stick to their estimation for once).

It's a shame seeing how the development for this game has taken a real nosedive. I support patreon developers when theyre making games i enjoy and steady progress. However, there's very little justification at this point to support Hreinn games on a monthly basis. Hopefully a decrease in subs prompts some behind the scenes changes, but as it stands, even slow release schedule aside, we go months with zero new info. It's too bad.
 

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So I remember playing this game for the first time when the Red God's Arena part was still in development. Never got to the arena back then.
I'm playing the game again right now, I am past the arena and now I got to the part where I am allowed to raid. I should also mention that I am using the walkthrough (at the lakelord section specifically), of course, since I don't believe I have enough time to spend playing this game slowly and carefully without making any mistakes while still enjoying the playthrough.
So I have some questions for you.
The game is starting to feel like a chore, and I am starting to get quite bored when I play it. I feel there is something wrong with the writing and I can't quite put my finger on it. Now I know the main writer left, but that is way further in the game, right? I feel like the story got so uninteresting all of a sudden. Am I the only one who feels this way? Does it get better and this is just a dead point in the game? Is it worth it to continue until the end of the current version?
This game felt so good in the beginning, I even remember when I played this game for the first time and thought that the story was so damn good, it drew me in so much that I kept playing from 10pm to 6am. And now I come back, after playing Noxian Nights, thinking that this game would be the real deal, like I remember it being, and the initial parts are good, but then I left the arena and it all seemed to crumble pretty quickly. I don't know if I should keep playing this.
 

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So I remember playing this game for the first time when the Red God's Arena part was still in development. Never got to the arena back then.
I'm playing the game again right now, I am past the arena and now I got to the part where I am allowed to raid. I should also mention that I am using the walkthrough (at the lakelord section specifically), of course, since I don't believe I have enough time to spend playing this game slowly and carefully without making any mistakes while still enjoying the playthrough.
So I have some questions for you.
The game is starting to feel like a chore, and I am starting to get quite bored when I play it. I feel there is something wrong with the writing and I can't quite put my finger on it. Now I know the main writer left, but that is way further in the game, right? I feel like the story got so uninteresting all of a sudden. Am I the only one who feels this way? Does it get better and this is just a dead point in the game? Is it worth it to continue until the end of the current version?
This game felt so good in the beginning, I even remember when I played this game for the first time and thought that the story was so damn good, it drew me in so much that I kept playing from 10pm to 6am. And now I come back, after playing Noxian Nights, thinking that this game would be the real deal, like I remember it being, and the initial parts are good, but then I left the arena and it all seemed to crumble pretty quickly. I don't know if I should keep playing this.
The section of the game that focuses on raiding is just kind of shit. They never got the mechanics to a good enough place to make it enjoyable to play, and the story tries to get more ambitious in a way that doesn't really work. Both these things screw up the pacing and make it a bit dull for a while. imo things pick up again once the updates stop using the raid mechanic.
 
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