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I still don't like how the sub route is basically "do everything wrong so you can get fucked." The idea was to manipulate by acting submissive, have people eating out of your hand, while they think they are supperior to you. Problem being that if Sabia is a complete doormat and a fuck-up all the time, it makes little sense for her to even get the opportunities she does. Maybe it's a problem with the way the story is set up, but the sub route just feels incredibly artificial.
In the dom route things flow way more organically and the sex scenes play well into the story.
You get the odd scene of Sabia being dominated still, but that's mostly due to the writer being too lazy to rewrite the content for either route much.

In retrospect it would have made more sense to keep the whole sub/dom score thing out of the game and let the player decide which route serves better in which scenario. Clearly acting submissive would work well on Tekrok, because he gets off on that. But being dominant with most of the normal camp orcs and being defiant with Kira or Neve, who seem to enjoy that, just makes sense.

TLDR; it's basically another completely inflexible moral choice systems in video games, that undermines the story.
The sub route is starting to feel like its barrelling full speed into a game over or a bad end.
 

Vyacheslav Grinko

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Is there a changelog when i can read about what is new in this version ??? Nevermind i just saw the gallery and Sabia still looks like a dwarf in the scenes im done with this game 1.2 G was not worth waiting
 
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saint751

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The sub route is starting to feel like its barrelling full speed into a game over or a bad end.
Yeah and honestly, it's barely a sub route if Sabia is just fumbling around and then getting a non-consensual fucking. It doesn't really feel like your doing any deception in a game called "Kingdom of Deception". For me personally it would be way more motivating if you were still manipulating people, even while acting like you're under their thumb.

For instance, I replayed the whole excursion with Kira and Avion.There's a short melee where it's decided that the loser has to do all the camp duties. In the sub route, Kira basically loses all respect for Sabia because she performs poorly and Avion does some schoolyard bullying on you and gets to ravage you (but only if you agree, wtf.).
This basically seems like utter piss. Not only is Sabia way more capable in the gameplay sections, but her prior displayed intelligence shows that she wouldn't fall for each and every one of Avion's tricks. The story basically bends over backwards and has to turn Sabia into a wet blanket to get anywhere

Here's an alternate scenario from the top of my head, where Sabia takes control of the situation, while maintaining the sub role.
When Kira and Avion suggest the bout, Sabia gets to intervene:


Sabia: I don't think I could compare to either one of you in direct combat.
Kira raises an eyebrow, unable to hide her disappointment. Avion wasn't expecting it either, his face faltering before his lips curl up.
Avion: You finally understand your-
Kira: What? Where is that bloodlust I saw earlier, Sabia?
Sabia: Don't misunderstand, I live for a good slaughter. Especially when it comes to grinding weaklings in the dirt... but I love seeing true strength even more. And you two are insanely strong. How about you have it out and the winner gets... me. I'll do whatever you want for the rest of the excursion.
Avion: I could take you whenever I want.
Sabia: Maybe, but where's the fun in that?
Kira: I like it. This raises the stakes quite a bit. I won't be going easy on you Avion.
Avion: ...fine
Then the fight happens and Sabia stands at the side-lines, analyzing their moves and gaining some valuable insight into both of them. The player gets to decide who wins. If Sabia distracts Kira by blowing her a kiss, Avion wins. If Sabia does nothing, Kira beats Avion down. That way you get to keep both scenarios in the sub route.

Scenario 1:
Sabia: Those muscles aren't just for show, huh? (whispering) Maybe you should lead the bandits, Avion. I'd be your first follower.
Avion gets to use Sabia, who submits to his whims fully for the duration of the quest. He starts getting a really big head Meanwhile Kira fumes. Sabia managed to put further strain on their relationship and a dent in Kira's ego. This makes the situation more volitile, but also gives Sabia future opportunities.

Scenario 2:
Sabia: I guess that was the predictable outcome. But to the winner go the spoils. Watching you work sends a shiver down my spine, Kira.
Kira: Oh, you're going to shiver from more than just that, my dear Sabia. Now entertain me, while Avion collects fire wood.
Kira now sees Sabia as a prize, she wants to keep, maybe getting more bold in her exploits to further impress her with her strength. Avion receives further humiliation and perhaps becomes envious of Kira's position.


Sorry for the fanfiction. But I wanted to illustrate how a sub route still has agency and manipulation and would appeal more to me. I guess that was what Sierra Lee was going for when she was still writing the scenarios, because she was interested in story progress and actual power dynamics.
 
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kilik

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Aug 9, 2017
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im stuck at "rescue Velhis" quest,you need to rescue her in the fist 3 days,but i cant trigger the market option for buyig the potion,so im always getting the bad end
any tips for completin this quest?
 

Hortl

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Can you say more? I'm not English and really not good with computers ...
thanks in advance
This didn't work for me :( Is there any chance I could convince you to upload your game folder
So in short how I did it, I downloaded the unren program (you can find it by just searching "unren" in your browser) then I dragged it into the folder where the game is located, unzipped it and ran it. I selected the 1. and ran it, then the second. After that i searched within the map with the search tool to find the "scenes" folder, and then looked for "sabiabargropeA (1)" image, and it was marked as a .png file when it should be .jpg; so i renamed the .png into .jpg and did so with all other bar grope scenes, of course my computer asked me if i'm certain if i wanted to change the name and i chose yes. I think this should help you with this problem.
 

Solifugo

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Aug 10, 2018
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Hello guys. I havent played the game in a while and decided to start again, but i got this error. Can you give me that jpg and probably tell me where it is? i cant find it. If possible
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'scenes/sabiabargropeA/sabiabargropeA (1).jpg'>:
IOError: Couldn't find file 'scenes/sabiabargropeA/sabiabargropeA (1).jpg'.
 

kilik

Newbie
Aug 9, 2017
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Hello guys. I havent played the game in a while and decided to start again, but i got this error. Can you give me that jpg and probably tell me where it is? i cant find it. If possible
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'scenes/sabiabargropeA/sabiabargropeA (1).jpg'>:
IOError: Couldn't find file 'scenes/sabiabargropeA/sabiabargropeA (1).jpg'.
also had the same problem,i played that chapter in an older version
 

Hortl

New Member
Feb 12, 2021
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Hello guys. I havent played the game in a while and decided to start again, but i got this error. Can you give me that jpg and probably tell me where it is? i cant find it. If possible
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'scenes/sabiabargropeA/sabiabargropeA (1).jpg'>:
IOError: Couldn't find file 'scenes/sabiabargropeA/sabiabargropeA (1).jpg'.
also had the same problem,i played that chapter in an older version
It seems that the devs marked the scenes as the file type .png instead of .jpg, follow this and it'l be fixed.
So in short how I did it, I downloaded the unren program (you can find it by just searching "unren" in your browser) then I dragged it into the folder where the game is located, unzipped it and ran it. I selected the 1. and ran it, then the second. After that i searched within the map with the search tool to find the "scenes" folder, and then looked for "sabiabargropeA (1)" image, and it was marked as a .png file when it should be .jpg; so i renamed the .png into .jpg and did so with all other bar grope scenes, of course my computer asked me if i'm certain if i wanted to change the name and i chose yes. I think this should help you with this problem.
 
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Facilus

Futa/Femboy/T-Girl/Cunny Lover
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How much futa/trans content we're talking about here? It's a good amount of scenes/characters or is just to farm tags?
 

ICHIBANnerdy

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Jul 19, 2017
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What the fuck am I supposed to do after doing the mission with Kira and Avion (Kira #2)? I see that in the gallery that there are more scenes, but there's no fucking clue. The quest log is bugged and still shows the Vehlis quest only
 

Enigmanic

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What the fuck am I supposed to do after doing the mission with Kira and Avion (Kira #2)? I see that in the gallery that there are more scenes, but there's no fucking clue. The quest log is bugged and still shows the Vehlis quest only
The quest log is still a work-in-progress. Who knows when they'll have it finished so it will list all the quests throughout the game.

As for the mission with Kira and Avion, go back to the orc camp. Search around until you find more content. Try talking to Elmy, Bris and Vehlis.
 

slavegal

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Iirc, that's the end of the content for the tentacle monster side-quest. The devs haven't made any new content for it.
thank you, I managed to start the Chufk 2. However, I can't trigger the second half of this quest in which I need to "ask Bris to deliver vension." It is supposed to start automatically when I finish Orbshaka's ritual part 2, which I have accomplished. I think devs make this game over-complicated by mixing different quests and making them the premises of each other.
 
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