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Dante477

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Apr 1, 2019
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Why bother having a quest log if it won't show all the quests? And yes as a matter of fact, Nomo has previously stated in their Discord that the quest log would eventually list all quests as they come up for fresh playthroughs.
Yeah I agree, having a quest log without adding all the quests is pointless. And thanks for clarifying and sharing that discord info with us. But still, my last point still stands, the feature is still being updated and whether or not they add the old quest's in the future, it's still being looked on and not forgotten, therefore it's not abandoned.
 

sniedd88

Newbie
Feb 9, 2018
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i have a problem. after listing in to the convo between elmy and bris and learning bris nickname nothing else happens the quest dont go further and no other quest going on i done everything in the walkthrough before that quest already
 

Jinnai

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Donor
Jun 26, 2018
130
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I probably didn't express it well enough in my last post, but i simply don't see evidence of malicious milking from them yet. They did bury their heads into the sand for a long time now, but it seems to me that they want to keep developing this game. Regardless, you are right when you say that they have to change their ways, because the current state does not help anyone.
Yea that's what I felt as well. I don't think they are deliberately milking their patreons. It just happens due to mismanagement/overpromising and they aren't *too* fussed about it, to actually do something about that.

Not like this would excuse anything going on.
 

justletmeinplees

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Jan 14, 2021
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Yea that's what I felt as well. I don't think they are deliberately milking their patreons. It just happens due to mismanagement/overpromising and they aren't *too* fussed about it, to actually do something about that.

Not like this would excuse anything going on.
I honestly don't get these opinions. They accept donations, they aren't charging you for services rendered. You are giving away your money in the hope that it will turn into a game. The reality is it's a passion project and passion comes and goes. A 3 month estimated update could take double or triple that and be completely normal. I get that we all love the game, it's probably top 3 I've played on this site, even the very small amount that's finished. But that's why I'm following the development, if anyones having a problem paying for a dream, paying for hope, they should cancel, but even paying at 1.5$ for years seems worth the risk to me. Nobody can complain about milking or slow development for something they've opted into, that's not criticism, it's just whining.

They don't need an excuse for anything since they don't work for us.
 

bitchass92

Member
Dec 11, 2020
222
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I honestly don't get these opinions. They accept donations, they aren't charging you for services rendered. You are giving away your money in the hope that it will turn into a game. The reality is it's a passion project and passion comes and goes. A 3 month estimated update could take double or triple that and be completely normal. I get that we all love the game, it's probably top 3 I've played on this site, even the very small amount that's finished. But that's why I'm following the development, if anyones having a problem paying for a dream, paying for hope, they should cancel, but even paying at 1.5$ for years seems worth the risk to me. Nobody can complain about milking or slow development for something they've opted into, that's not criticism, it's just whining.

They don't need an excuse for anything since they don't work for us.
yeah

Because holding people accountable is bad, right?

Andeveryone ONLY pays 1.5 ok bud
 

HikkiXxX

Newbie
May 25, 2018
53
207
I think the main problem is that Hreinn don't have a work schedule. When they work in the patch, they are like "Yeah, this could be good, and this too could be good" This is making delays and they just simply can't say anything about the upcoming patch, why? Because not even themselves know that. This is not an excuse, just if you guys misunderstood. Its a fucking big problem, you can't work without a plan, otherwise, you will end like this game :rolleyes:
 

souldead341

Engaged Member
Oct 16, 2017
2,268
2,349
I honestly don't get these opinions. They accept donations, they aren't charging you for services rendered. You are giving away your money in the hope that it will turn into a game. The reality is it's a passion project and passion comes and goes. A 3 month estimated update could take double or triple that and be completely normal. I get that we all love the game, it's probably top 3 I've played on this site, even the very small amount that's finished. But that's why I'm following the development, if anyones having a problem paying for a dream, paying for hope, they should cancel, but even paying at 1.5$ for years seems worth the risk to me. Nobody can complain about milking or slow development for something they've opted into, that's not criticism, it's just whining.

They don't need an excuse for anything since they don't work for us.
The problem is (and this is delving into a long debate on what patreon is used for vs what it's supposed to be used for) that game developers on patreon often treat it as payment for the game instead of a donation to support an artist.

Patreon is mean to be a way for a group of people to allow an artist (whatever form that art takes) to create effectively as a donation / support for their work in general. This is obvious if you know about the origin of the word patron with regards to artists. Rich people paid artists to work, and often work for them. The artist would be able to create their art, and the rich person would get fame and prestige for supporting said artist in addition to personal works specifically for them.

What has happened instead is people using patreon as a way directly gain access to a full project / artist's catalog. This is both due to how patreon is structured with rewards in addition to how people set up their patreon accounts. There's also the fact that it's hard for a general user of patreon to see if reporting a project does anything why a project fails to deliver. Note, even if you're not a supporter you can report them.

Last thing, as has been covered many MANY times, anyone is allowed to criticize, complain, and bitch about how a project (game, book, whatever) is being run / developed, and people love to bitch. Mostly you don't expect anything to change about it by complaining, but it feels good to complain and get the complaints out in some way. Paying for something is NOT a requirement to complain, and gate keeping who is allowed to talk about something negatively is really quite a bad path to take.

Now, I'm not trying to start or continue a flame war about patreon in general. And honestly I'm not sure why I decided to write this out (basically again, in this same thread).
 

Shakira

Newbie
Nov 16, 2017
60
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Just going to leave this here for people who think game developers on Patreon are exempt from criticism and complaints because they are accepting 'donations'.

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Let us not forget that in Hreinn's case, they have promised faster updates multiple times and they have failed to deliver them so far. One definitely needs to be held accountable for such kind of behavior.

My intention is not to start a flame war or 'whine', I couldn't care less about what these devs do with this game anymore. It's their game and they're free to do whatever they want, they seem to have enough faithful followers to do that anyway.
 

Rule97

Member
May 2, 2018
412
219
So is this game dead? Is Hreinn the artist? Because ngl I just fucking love the art so much and well the writing but I know Sierra Lee left the project a long time ago
 
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souldead341

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Oct 16, 2017
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So is this game dead? Is Hreinn the artist? Because ngl I just fucking love the art so much and well the writing but I know Sierra Lee left the project a long time ago
Like was said, it's been talked about quite a bit in this thread. The group is named Hreinn. Nomo is the artist. The update is coming "soon". Any more than that very brief summery is in the last few pages of the thread or in the public patreon info.
 
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heehatatt

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Jun 2, 2017
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Does anyone even know anything about the update? Like how big will it be, how long will it last in playthrough etc... Obviously like always it's extremely late, but it'd be worse if it's a tiny update with 15 mins of story.
4 quests + repeatables that didn't make it in last update going by patreon
 

Shakira

Newbie
Nov 16, 2017
60
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Does anyone even know anything about the update? Like how big will it be, how long will it last in playthrough etc... Obviously like always it's extremely late, but it'd be worse if it's a tiny update with 15 mins of story.
This might sound cliché but it's best to keep your expectations low. Expect the worst and hope for the best.
 

hakarlman

Engaged Member
Jul 30, 2017
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It's been 8 months since last release. Think about it, they've been working on this upcoming version for 8 months. Just imagine the massive amounts of quests and content there will be. It will probably be hours and hours of entertainment in the form of new content. Probably 30+ new quests and erotic adventures for Sabia and Nieve only, and not for the meaningless characters we don't care about.

Thank you Hreinn games for taking your time and giving us so much content in this upcoming update.

I'm so hyped for this update.

And.. I just know that the developers will finally allow Sabia to get gangbanged by the Orc bar gropers, because Hreinn games knows their audience so well.

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