Exodusas
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- Nov 18, 2016
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Dont see it getting abandoned any time soon. Getting ~10k for once a year update with at best half an hour of new content ? They will keep milking until the last drop
ahrimansiah
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- Oct 28, 2017
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thats the exact definition of abandoning in this industry, u will see less and less until there is no update for 2-3 years and bam abandoned, this is not the first time this happened, sadly...
pls
next version
next version
3 patches
I think 1 week between them at best is a good estimation
3 weeks from now is 1st of July
They aren't going to meet their self-declared timeline, again.
ahrimansiah
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- Oct 28, 2017
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THE GODS DEMAND SACRIFICE!!!
Karl Speidel
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- Sep 20, 2021
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This game and others are very good examples why patreon should be dismantled or not used for porn industry,you see the results here and it by definiton promotes laziness.
People to fight something like this cancell all your patreon subscriptions and try to get others to do the same,this is the only way...short of kidnapping nomo and others...to make a difference and maybe to see KoD finished.
People to fight something like this cancell all your patreon subscriptions and try to get others to do the same,this is the only way...short of kidnapping nomo and others...to make a difference and maybe to see KoD finished.
Shakira
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- Nov 16, 2017
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They have failed to do that already. They said they would release Ylva quest by early June but it is 11th/12th June (depending on where you live) and I don't see any signs of a release yet.
On the discord this morning Nomo said NDS would finish inserting the Patch 1: Ylva content into an update in "a few days". So i'd say that 1) I'm with Shakira, Hrienn is most certainly missing their "early" in the month deadline, and 2) Jinsoyun is absolutely right that coding seems like their critical bottleneck.
I'm not saying it's NDS' fault (...though NDS has admitted their computer is a potato that can't run RPGMaker's browser form) as the team's project management skills would make me suspect that this may be a workflow issue where the art and writing is dumped at the feet of coder, who then has to hustle to get it all together last minute. Full speculation on my part here on the root of issue, i bet the blame lies squarely in the middle of this team's triangle.
SilverCuppedRamen
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- Feb 4, 2021
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Should have an "abandoned" tag until patches are released in a timely manner.
Umbra.Nox
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- Mar 12, 2020
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I think if we invented some kind of tag for this kind of developers, like [Dev's slow as fuck] tag, it would help a lot. The games with some actual active developers will get more attention(which will also encourage slow devs to start working, since people won't look at the slow-dev games as much), and everyone will see which games are barely progressing and aren't worth getting your hopes high.
MingXiao
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- Aug 9, 2021
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Like they care if some people on a pirate forum complain when they can milk coomers.
No game developer cares about F95 except maybe startup peeps looking for an audience. Why would they otherwise? They could put a scamming fucks tag on it here and they wouldn't care.
Patreon and subscribestar are the ones that would have to enforce this kind of thing and since they don't...
Patreon and subscribestar are the ones that would have to enforce this kind of thing and since they don't...
Karl Speidel
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- Sep 20, 2021
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starting with f95 would be fine too,it would build momentum,you cant just force patreon and subscribestar,we need to take small steps and that is first f95,it would hurt their revenue all the same.
Unless a developers is releasing a demo to F95, most pirates of this site aren't coming here to pay the developers.
Subscribestar and Patreon should be able to punish developers who don't have any activity on their respective platforms. Even if its just shutting them down until they get their shit together. Of course they won't, because both platforms get a respective cut of money, and they want that easy cash as well.
Subscribestar and Patreon should be able to punish developers who don't have any activity on their respective platforms. Even if its just shutting them down until they get their shit together. Of course they won't, because both platforms get a respective cut of money, and they want that easy cash as well.
Well, we can't tell anyone what they should care about or like. That's even one of the basis of this forum if i understand it correctly. People like different things and that's that. So if a developer doesn't like this forum, then that's up to them too. After all, it is true that a lot of us are unwilling or unable to give them financial support.
However i would argue that even if they don't like this place, it is a mistake to completely ignore it. After all, what is literally the oldest trick in the book of businesses?
Gather a crowd! Sure, not everyone from that crowd will buy from you, maybe only a few of them will, but it is still marketing. You never only advertise to your already existing costumers otherwise your business will have a hard time growing.
I always thought that this thread turned too hostile towards the devs way too early on. Just check how far back you'll already find posts along the lines of "3 months for an update??? lazy devs, dead game"... how times have changed. But at the same time i know it was better for us when the devs visited here and other forums too, not only drip feeding information on discord, and judging by their peak earning around $8k a month i would say that it was better for them too.
Also oshkoshdorosh mentioned that their coder apparently does not have a proper PC that could handle this job well. If that's true, then i might owe him an apology, but since there is no communication, i will never have a way to know if i just jumped the gun there. And i make a conscious effort to stay focused and constructive whenever i have the chance.
However i would argue that even if they don't like this place, it is a mistake to completely ignore it. After all, what is literally the oldest trick in the book of businesses?
Gather a crowd! Sure, not everyone from that crowd will buy from you, maybe only a few of them will, but it is still marketing. You never only advertise to your already existing costumers otherwise your business will have a hard time growing.
I always thought that this thread turned too hostile towards the devs way too early on. Just check how far back you'll already find posts along the lines of "3 months for an update??? lazy devs, dead game"... how times have changed. But at the same time i know it was better for us when the devs visited here and other forums too, not only drip feeding information on discord, and judging by their peak earning around $8k a month i would say that it was better for them too.
Also oshkoshdorosh mentioned that their coder apparently does not have a proper PC that could handle this job well. If that's true, then i might owe him an apology, but since there is no communication, i will never have a way to know if i just jumped the gun there. And i make a conscious effort to stay focused and constructive whenever i have the chance.
Honestly part of the early times hostility was because of people remembering the very consistent monthly update schedule when they did NN. They also generally were better about posting both public and supporter posts at those times. Hell, I was posting various "Give them a chance, they said they'd be doing less frequent updates when they started the project" things back in the day. My stance has completely changed since then.
Brother Penetrātus
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- Aug 12, 2018
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A coder without an proper PC? This is really hard to believe. Or does he the coding on an Amiga? Nonetheless, they made approximately 100.000$ in all these years, so I'm pretty confident a "proper PC" wouldn't be a problem at all.
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Thats offensive and inconsiderate. PatreonMilk tag would be and descriptive enough.
It's python, not c++ with boost. All you need for coding in python is text editor with syntax highlight. Vim will suffice and it can run on coffee machine.
Mayra
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- Apr 15, 2018
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Man I'm so tired of seeing abandoned projects, specially after having paid for them...